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Murkwood
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Postby Murkwood » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:56 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Khmer Rouge? Really? We fought against them in multiple operations, like Operation Menu and Operation Freedom Deal.


We installed Pol Pot, and we did little to stop them. Vietnam came in a finished them off.

Again, read about Operation Menu and Freedom Deal.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:56 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
I like Reagan.


Then you are disconnected with reality. He's the reason why Al-Qaeda and the Taliban exist, Iran-Contra Scandal nonsense, he preached free markets and stuff but raised taxes, and he would fail the current RNC conservative test. He was a horrible leader, and he didn't do anything to tear down the Soviets besides swoop in at the end as say "TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, Man, it's like, not cool, man."


I like him and no, I am not disconnected with reality. I like his economic policies. I like some of his social policies. Foreign policy? Meh.

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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:57 pm

Murkwood wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
We installed Pol Pot, and we did little to stop them. Vietnam came in a finished them off.

Again, read about Operation Menu and Freedom Deal.

"EVERYTHIN' IS THE DAMN FAULT OF THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION1!!!111!1"

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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:57 pm

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Benuty wrote:Because using death squads to support right wing dictators, and destroy elected governments is totally cool kids *nods*.

Because leaving Iraq in such instable times, and harming the whole Arabic region and giving room to international terrorism is a good think *nods*

Shall I start about Libya?

Because invading Iraq on mostly trumped on pretenses because the US, and other western powers supplied them with weapons to bomb the Iranians, and cause ethnic cleansing among the Kurds is great! While we are at it lets disband the whole Iraqi army who will scatter to various resistance cells instead of helping rebuild their country. Also lets kind of fuck around with our original precedent concerning a disgruntled Saudi thus forcing us into a bit of quagmire *nods*.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:57 pm

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Benuty wrote:https://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights/immigration-myths-and-facts

Just because I felt like it.

ACLU is not a source.


ACLU is nonpartisan.
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Postby Murkwood » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:57 pm

Calimera II wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Then you are disconnected with reality. He's the reason why Al-Qaeda and the Taliban exist, Iran-Contra Scandal nonsense, he preached free markets and stuff but raised taxes, and he would fail the current RNC conservative test. He was a horrible leader, and he didn't do anything to tear down the Soviets besides swoop in at the end as say "TEAR DOWN THIS WALL, Man, it's like, not cool, man."


I like him and no, I am not disconnected with reality. I like his economic policies. I like some of his social policies. Foreign policy? Meh.

Hey, don't go dissing on the Reagan Doctrine.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:58 pm

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I loved rubbing salt on my friends who actually voted for him. I was shocked tho when they voted for him twice.


It's unlikely we would have been better off under McCain/Palin, or Mitt Romney...


Unlikely being the understatement of the century...
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:59 pm

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Benuty wrote:Reagan pretty much is responsible for the Khmer Rouge, and death squads not to mention extending the War on Drugs..so no.

Extending the war on drugs is a good thing. Drugs kill people and cause violence and poverty.


..........:palm:

Don't you understand that the war on drugs has:

A) Given the Cartels a monopoly on drug trade, causing mass violence in Latin America that is responsible for the immigration crisis?

B) caused drug use has gone up?

C) made people less free?

Or that:

D) Capitalism will always cause poverty, regardless of what happens?

E) Pharmaceutical drugs are essentially the same thing as street drugs, they just have different names?

F) Drugs are legal? (Alcohol, Tobacco, Caffeine)
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Postby The Royally United Provinces » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:59 pm

I think Obama is doing fine. Especially to have a do nothing congress. I think that if he had a working congress that didn't threaten to shutdown the government every time they don't get their way then he'd be one of the best we've had.
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Postby Murkwood » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:00 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Again, read about Operation Menu and Freedom Deal.

"EVERYTHIN' IS THE DAMN FAULT OF THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION1!!!111!1"

AIDS? Reagan. Crack? Reagan. Poverty? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan. Fascism? Reagan. MH370 Disappearance? Reagan. Election of Ronald Reagan? Reagan.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:00 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
I like him and no, I am not disconnected with reality. I like his economic policies. I like some of his social policies. Foreign policy? Meh.

Hey, don't go dissing on the Reagan Doctrine.


The Reagan Doctrine was more or less responsible for fostering Islamic terror groups in the modern day. Further involvement in the Middle East eventually strengthened them.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:00 pm

Benuty wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Because leaving Iraq in such instable times, and harming the whole Arabic region and giving room to international terrorism is a good think *nods*

Shall I start about Libya?

Because invading Iraq on mostly trumped on pretenses because the US, and other western powers supplied them with weapons to bomb the Iranians, and cause ethnic cleansing among the Kurds is great! While we are at it lets disband the whole Iraqi army who will scatter to various resistance cells instead of helping rebuild their country. Also lets kind of fuck around with our original precedent concerning a disgruntled Saudi thus forcing us into a bit of quagmire *nods*.


Because Obama thought it was a great idea to bomb the shit out of Libya to not stay there afterwards to lead the recuperation process in a favourable way, which all led to mass executions, militias everywhere, a non-functioning economy, a non-functioning government and anarchy.*nods*
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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:00 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
I like him and no, I am not disconnected with reality. I like his economic policies. I like some of his social policies. Foreign policy? Meh.

Hey, don't go dissing on the Reagan Doctrine.

Given how he's earned the label "the Thatcher of the US" I am hardly surprised.
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Postby Burleson » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:01 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:
Burleson wrote:ACLU is not a source.


ACLU is nonpartisan.

:rofl: No!
ACLU is one of the most liberal groups in American history. Its just pro-gay and secularist activism mostly.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:02 pm

Burleson wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
ACLU is nonpartisan.

:rofl: No!
ACLU is one of the most liberal groups in American history. Its just pro-gay and secularist activism mostly.

Then explain why it defended the Ku Klux Klan in their right to protest?
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Postby Burleson » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:03 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Calimera II wrote:"EVERYTHIN' IS THE DAMN FAULT OF THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION1!!!111!1"

AIDS? Reagan. Crack? Reagan. Poverty? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan. Fascism? Reagan. MH370 Disappearance? Reagan. Election of Ronald Reagan? Reagan.

9/11, Reagan. The Bubonic Plage, Reagan. Ukrainian Invasion by Russia, Reagan. Decline in use of Amtrak, Reagan.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:03 pm

Benuty wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Hey, don't go dissing on the Reagan Doctrine.

Given how he's earned the label "the Thatcher of the US" I am hardly surprised.

Most of the Americans actually see that as something positive if you ask me.

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Postby Burleson » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:04 pm

Benuty wrote:
Burleson wrote: :rofl: No!
ACLU is one of the most liberal groups in American history. Its just pro-gay and secularist activism mostly.

Then explain why it defended the Ku Klux Klan in their right to protest?

The KKK was started by Democrats. Looks like the ACLU was partisan from day 1.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:04 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Calimera II wrote:"EVERYTHIN' IS THE DAMN FAULT OF THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION1!!!111!1"

AIDS? Reagan. Crack? Reagan. Poverty? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan. Fascism? Reagan. MH370 Disappearance? Reagan. Election of Ronald Reagan? Reagan.

Reagan's administration did a sloppy job handling the HIV/AIDS crisis, and as a result we are still trawling through all the sludge of what could be considered a plague.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:04 pm

Burleson wrote:
Murkwood wrote:AIDS? Reagan. Crack? Reagan. Poverty? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan. Fascism? Reagan. MH370 Disappearance? Reagan. Election of Ronald Reagan? Reagan.

9/11, Reagan. The Bubonic Plage, Reagan. Ukrainian Invasion by Russia, Reagan. Decline in use of Amtrak, Reagan.

Islamic State? Reagan. Economic Crisis of 2008? Reagan. Inflation? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan.

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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:05 pm

Calimera II wrote:The White House wants us to think the stimulus was a success, publishing a report that claims the stimulus “saved or created about 6 million job-years” and “raised the level of GDP by between 2 and 3 percent from late 2009 through mid-2011.”

These seem to be preposterous claims. According to data from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve’s interactive website, the current recovery is the weakest expansion since World War II. And keep in mind that this anemic recovery started in the summer of 2009, right about the same time as the stimulus was beginning. So if the President’s plan was effective, it should be apparent in the growth numbers.

The Obama stimulus failed miserably in doing what it should do: creating jobs and boosting the economy.


If it did fail, and I'm not sure it did (I think it is succeeding, only more slowly than we would like), it was because it was vastly too small. But it was the best Congress would even possibly consider.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:05 pm

Benuty wrote:
Murkwood wrote:AIDS? Reagan. Crack? Reagan. Poverty? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan. Fascism? Reagan. MH370 Disappearance? Reagan. Election of Ronald Reagan? Reagan.

Reagan's administration did a sloppy job handling the HIV/AIDS crisis, and as a result we are still trawling through all the sludge of what could be considered a plague.


HIV? Reagan.


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Postby Benuty » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:05 pm

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Benuty wrote:Then explain why it defended the Ku Klux Klan in their right to protest?

The KKK was started by Democrats. Looks like the ACLU was partisan from day 1.

the KKK had abandoned the democrats once the Nixon strategy to appeal to the south began the death of the "Solid South" era.

If you want to play that game you could say the NRA was started by democrats to considering it coincidentally began with the outlawing of the original klan.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:06 pm

Communal Ecotopia wrote:
Calimera II wrote:The White House wants us to think the stimulus was a success, publishing a report that claims the stimulus “saved or created about 6 million job-years” and “raised the level of GDP by between 2 and 3 percent from late 2009 through mid-2011.”

These seem to be preposterous claims. According to data from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve’s interactive website, the current recovery is the weakest expansion since World War II. And keep in mind that this anemic recovery started in the summer of 2009, right about the same time as the stimulus was beginning. So if the President’s plan was effective, it should be apparent in the growth numbers.

The Obama stimulus failed miserably in doing what it should do: creating jobs and boosting the economy.


If it did fail, and I'm not sure it did (I think it is succeeding, only more slowly than we would like), it was because it was vastly too small. But it was the best Congress would even possibly consider.


The real reason behins the economic (though slow) recovery is the monetary policy of the FED.

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Postby Burleson » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:07 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Burleson wrote:9/11, Reagan. The Bubonic Plage, Reagan. Ukrainian Invasion by Russia, Reagan. Decline in use of Amtrak, Reagan.

Islamic State? Reagan. Economic Crisis of 2008? Reagan. Inflation? Reagan. Rwandan Genocide? Reagan.

Hurricane Katrina, Reagan. Robin Williams' suicide, Reagan. Existence of Google Chrome, Reagan. Miley Cyrus, Reagan.
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