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Postby Sediczja » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:01 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Sediczja wrote:What, so your opinion is the only one that matters?


No. But everyone seems like they are just waiting for the opportunity to report me and get me off of NationStates. What I am saying is true. It is an appeal to consider a different viewpoint for once.
Whenever anyone presents a "different" viewpoint (i.e. different to yours) you cry that your opinion is being suppressed and we're all godless pinko commies.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:01 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:As it says in the scriptures, 'when the foundations are broken, what can the righteous do?'

So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?
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Postby Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:01 pm

Manzhouli wrote:
Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:Ok. How do you justify insulting and accusing people of 'suppressing' your opinions, when they're just making logical arguments against you?


Because he's arrogant and lives on BS Mountain, along with his friends Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin.

I know. Wait for his answer though. See my edit.
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Postby Xenoph » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:01 pm

As for your views on America being g so great and being founded on Christianity, you're entirely wrong it was founded and mainly made up of protestants unless you're encompassing all of the religions that follow the Bible such as Catholicism etc. As Christianity then I see more leniancy. America and its founding fathers based it's rights as a way to keep the colonies at the time stable. It's evidenced by the fact that they say all men are created equal. They didn't add women until almost a hundreds years after, not to include the fact they kept the blacks as slaves as they wrote it and weren't even freed u til much later afterwards. What I've seen from this post so far or thread excuse me is trying to say america is the best in the world no one can beat it because god helps it. Then you go on to say it was four red on this and founded on that so it make sit this Mich better but deny someone's post about the old testament since the new testament WS smade after......weeeelllll if that's the case this shouldn't even have been made considering the new testament was based off the old testament and by your logic anything you've said in the beginninnof this thread is cancelled out for america.

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:02 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
No. But everyone seems like they are just waiting for the opportunity to report me and get me off of NationStates. What I am saying is true. It is an appeal to consider a different viewpoint for once.

We have considered it before. You think you're the first person to come through spouting this nonsense? Or the tenth? People who've been here longer than I have have probably seen hundreds of threads exactly like this one.

I've been here less than a year and seen dozens. It's quite funny because at the begining I was an ultra-libertarian. Then I snapped out of it ;)
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:02 pm

The Isles of New Babylon wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Way to go for SUPPRESSING my opinion.

I was stating facts. Notice I simply used the strike to show what was factually incorrect with what you were saying, I didn't delete it so no suppression.

I don't believe the 1st amendment of the US constitution enshrines "conservative christian values"

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.
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Postby Vulnian Empire » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:02 pm

*Pops in to look around*

Well I thought I'd just see what's going on, figure if it's an intelligent and worthy debate but it seems like the OP is just turning the troll wheel. I figured I'd post my two cents but I'd rather have Type 2 diabetes.
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Postby Dajing (Ancient) » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Keventle wrote:*Shrugs*

You based your insanity on an external source, fox news. You need to develop your insanity internally, so that it is not dependent on anything.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Sediczja wrote:What, so your opinion is the only one that matters?


No. But everyone seems like they are just waiting for the opportunity to report me and get me off of NationStates. What I am saying is true. It is an appeal to consider a different viewpoint for once.

It's how you're posting and not what you're posting that has got people enraged. I'm not too far from you economically, but I know to be fair more cautious about how to go about debating them.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The Isles of New Babylon wrote:I was stating facts. Notice I simply used the strike to show what was factually incorrect with what you were saying, I didn't delete it so no suppression.

I don't believe the 1st amendment of the US constitution enshrines "conservative christian values"



It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.

Oh? Are you the Supreme Court? Are you in any way qualified to make binding interpretations of the Constitution? No? Then why the fuck should I listen to you?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.

Jesus. You're about a dozen amendments and two centuries behind on American law.
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Postby Margno » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Keep it up, everyone, keep reading your spoonfed NSG neolib garbage.

These kinds of posts always undermine your claim to the moral high ground, don't make them. Keep your head about you and respond to arguments as you can, ignore what you have to. Basically, everyone took this as a challenge because there wasn't a clear question, just "what do you think about my ideology," where the ideology in question is an unpopular one.
And don't take all the anger personally, we live we learn.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:As it says in the scriptures, 'when the foundations are broken, what can the righteous do?'

So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?


The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.
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Postby Keventle » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:03 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
No. But everyone seems like they are just waiting for the opportunity to report me and get me off of NationStates. What I am saying is true. It is an appeal to consider a different viewpoint for once.


We are considering it. Then we are disregarding it due to incorrect statements and you calling all of us "neolib garbage."

Yea you won't win anyone over by slamming them as "garbage"

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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Vulnian Empire wrote:*Pops in to look around*

Well I thought I'd just see what's going on, figure if it's an intelligent and worthy debate but it seems like the OP is just turning the troll wheel. I figured I'd post but I'd rather have Type 2 diabetes.


No, stay! I'm just putting in the popcorn *closes microwave*
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Postby Lalaki » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The Isles of New Babylon wrote:I was stating facts. Notice I simply used the strike to show what was factually incorrect with what you were saying, I didn't delete it so no suppression.

I don't believe the 1st amendment of the US constitution enshrines "conservative christian values"



It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.


Not under the 14th amendment. Look up incorporation after the Civil War.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The Isles of New Babylon wrote:I was stating facts. Notice I simply used the strike to show what was factually incorrect with what you were saying, I didn't delete it so no suppression.

I don't believe the 1st amendment of the US constitution enshrines "conservative christian values"



It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.

Separation of church and state applies to every state in the US last I checked.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Margno wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Keep it up, everyone, keep reading your spoonfed NSG neolib garbage.

These kinds of posts always undermine your claim to the moral high ground, don't make them. Keep your head about you and respond to arguments as you can, ignore what you have to. Basically, everyone took this a challenge because there wasn't a clear question, just "what do you think about my ideology?" Where the ideology in question is an unpopular one. Don't take all the anger personally, we live we learn.


Good thoughts. I will keep this in mind.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Glorious Rebublic of Alevstan wrote:Sooooooo. Who wants to bet on how long until this gets reported?


Mods as weapons.


Huh. OP rants at length about NSG culture, knows an awful lot about the rules vocabulary here for someone who has supposedly been here only a couple of weeks and has only a few hundred posts.

Suspicious. Starting price 7/3 on for OP as puppet of previously banned poster.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
As it says in the scriptures, 'when the foundations are broken, what can the righteous do?'

We heathens don't particularly care as long as you do it away from us.


Actually we can share our opinion with you as much as we want.
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Postby Vulnian Empire » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:
Vulnian Empire wrote:*Pops in to look around*

Well I thought I'd just see what's going on, figure if it's an intelligent and worthy debate but it seems like the OP is just turning the troll wheel. I figured I'd post but I'd rather have Type 2 diabetes.


No, stay! I'm just putting in the popcorn *closes microwave*



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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:05 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?


The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.

Nothing can stop our horrible sinning like a good mass slaughter ;)
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Postby Ragnarum » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:05 pm

I'm... Err...
I'm just going to watch.

This sounds like scarily demented ravings or really quite brilliant satire.
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Postby Keventle » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:05 pm

Dajing wrote:
Keventle wrote:*Shrugs*

You based your insanity on an external source, fox news. You need to develop your insanity internally, so that it is not dependent on anything.

you can pick up on how I am today by a little sentence?
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:06 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?


The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.


Wait... Are you implying that God put the Yellowstone Super-volcano in the US to prepare for the instance that the US becomes unfaithful?

...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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