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Uiiop
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:48 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Oh, great, a theocratic uber-nationalist ancap. Summer's last hurrah, ladies and gentlemen (and/or whatever else you happen to be).


Once again, more suppression of dissenting opinions, appealing to everyone else to join in on the anti-American bandwagon. Let me have an opinion too!

Please explain what magic is in these posts that make your OP disappear because otherwise i really don't see any suppression TBH. AT ALL.
You said something that disagrees with me in your reply does that mean you're repressing me? Cause i don't really see the difference between that and what's going on with you.
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Postby Dajing » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:Hell, if anything my time here has made me more moderate.

I'm sorry to hear that.

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Postby Suffolk Island » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

The Theocracy of Archeuland and Baughistan is a small, devout nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. The hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 45 million Archeuland and Baughistanians are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."

The medium-sized, moralistic government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Religion & Spirituality. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 18%. A small private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

Voters must frequently select what they view as the lesser of two evils on the ballot, almost half of the child population live rough on the streets, the economy is undergoing a traumatic transition to capitalism, and the military invades any neighboring nation with the gall to criticize its policies. Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Archeuland and Baughistan's national animal is the Eagle, and its currency is the Burgin.

-This is the guy's idea of the perfect 'Christian' nation.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

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Archeuland and Baughistan
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
That's a lie. Communism is all about a few people controlling the lives of millions. The Soviet Union killed over 60 million people for a variety of reasons, all in the interest of the ideal communist state. The communists will always fail! Freedom will always prevail.

The USSR was state capitalist, not communist. It didn't even reach socialism. The state became the rich person. True communism is a lot different. Not only that but the USSR had a lot of things the US still doesn't have. Free nationalized healthcare, and free education at all levels to name too. Not only that but they were technologically advanced. They achieved nearly all of the firsts in the space race other than putting a man on the moon. First man in space, first man to orbit the earth, first animal in space, first animal to orbit the earth, fist probe on another planet, first satellite, the list goes on.


True communism is always about suppressing everyone else! There will always be another Stalin when it comes to communism; another Hitler when it comes to socialism.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

Dajing wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:What about those Muslim Uighurs though?

What about them, they're barbarians. They need to be sinicized.

What do you mean they're barbarians? I believe that they deserve their own homeland as to be free to do what the Uighurs want.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:49 pm

Dajing wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Hell, if anything my time here has made me more moderate.

I'm sorry to hear that.

I'm not sorry to say it. I was fucking crazy when I joined.
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Postby The Isles of New Babylon » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:50 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:That was some wonderful bug-eyed bluster.

Truth? That's just your opinion, man.

America is still the greatest, wealthiest, most powerful, strongest, and desired one of the most unequal nations on Earth! And it was built on conservative Christian secular values (which include freedom, i.e., capitalism, and the freedom to worship the Christian any or no God)

Made some corrections.
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Postby Keventle » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:50 pm

The Flood wrote:Capitalism is evil, and is not at all a part of Christianity. Greed is a deadly sin, and capitalism is greed.

Humans are greedy under any economical situation.
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Postby Suffolk Island » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:51 pm

"televangelists flaunt their expensive cars when they attend charity events"

People like you would be much happier in my atheistic, social democratic state...

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:51 pm

Suffolk Island wrote:The Theocracy of Archeuland and Baughistan is a small, devout nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. The hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 45 million Archeuland and Baughistanians are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."

The medium-sized, moralistic government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Religion & Spirituality. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 18%. A small private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

Voters must frequently select what they view as the lesser of two evils on the ballot, almost half of the child population live rough on the streets, the economy is undergoing a traumatic transition to capitalism, and the military invades any neighboring nation with the gall to criticize its policies. Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Archeuland and Baughistan's national animal is the Eagle, and its currency is the Burgin.

-This is the guy's idea of the perfect 'Christian' nation.


That has nothing to do with this debate. Keep in mind that NationStates issues are quite difficult. For some reason my country started off really left wing and socialist. I guess I messed up on the issues quiz when I founded it.
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Postby Dajing » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:51 pm


You were a good man. I don't vote and I only occasionally pay taxes. I live your dream.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:51 pm

People actually believe this bullshit?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:52 pm

Keventle wrote:
The Flood wrote:Capitalism is evil, and is not at all a part of Christianity. Greed is a deadly sin, and capitalism is greed.

Humans are greedy under any economical situation.

Even under a system like Norway's they'll just try to jump ship to Monaco as soon as one can if they're greedy enough.
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Archeuland and Baughistan
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:52 pm

Suffolk Island wrote:"televangelists flaunt their expensive cars when they attend charity events"

People like you would be much happier in my atheistic, social democratic state...


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Postby Manzhouli » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:52 pm

This, you guys might find interesting.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=295393

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:52 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote: Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law." - 1 Corinthians 14:34

Stop with the race-baiting. You know that the progressives and pro-choice lobbyists are the ones who are really out to get the racial minorities. Planned Parenthood and the others want to get rid of all minorities.

(Founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger) On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people

Exodus 21:20-21 "If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property."

Funny. It's almost like moral ideals change over time.

Almost as humorous is that few people believe that Margaret Sanger is infallible, while a great number of people believe as much about the Bible.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:53 pm

The Isles of New Babylon wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:America is still the greatest, wealthiest, most powerful, strongest, and desired one of the most unequal nations on Earth! And it was built on conservative Christian secular values (which include freedom, i.e., capitalism, and the freedom to worship the Christian any or no God)

Made some corrections.


Way to go for SUPPRESSING my opinion.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:53 pm

Suffolk Island wrote:The Theocracy of Archeuland and Baughistan is a small, devout nation, renowned for its complete absence of social welfare. The hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 45 million Archeuland and Baughistanians are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."

The medium-sized, moralistic government juggles the competing demands of Law & Order, Defence, and Religion & Spirituality. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 18%. A small private sector is dominated by the Arms Manufacturing industry.

Voters must frequently select what they view as the lesser of two evils on the ballot, almost half of the child population live rough on the streets, the economy is undergoing a traumatic transition to capitalism, and the military invades any neighboring nation with the gall to criticize its policies. Crime is relatively low, thanks to the all-pervasive police force. Archeuland and Baughistan's national animal is the Eagle, and its currency is the Burgin.

-This is the guy's idea of the perfect 'Christian' nation.


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Postby Dajing » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:54 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:What do you mean they're barbarians? I believe that they deserve their own homeland as to be free to do what the Uighurs want.

Uh, Chagatai disintegrated of it's own accord.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:54 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The Isles of New Babylon wrote:Made some corrections.


Way to go for SUPPRESSING my opinion.

The "We white male upper-class Christians are being oppressed" card was ancient before it even went to print.
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:54 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Bratislavskaya wrote:The USSR was state capitalist, not communist. It didn't even reach socialism. The state became the rich person. True communism is a lot different. Not only that but the USSR had a lot of things the US still doesn't have. Free nationalized healthcare, and free education at all levels to name too. Not only that but they were technologically advanced. They achieved nearly all of the firsts in the space race other than putting a man on the moon. First man in space, first man to orbit the earth, first animal in space, first animal to orbit the earth, fist probe on another planet, first satellite, the list goes on.


True communism is always about suppressing everyone else! There will always be 1) another Stalin when it comes to communism; 2) another Hitler when it comes to socialism.


Stalin was not communist. End of story. He may have preached it, but he wasn't. Hitler wasn't socialist, he was a Nazi. While that STANDS for National Socialists, in reality he was a fascist. Please keep your political vocab up-to-date.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:54 pm

Keep it up, everyone, keep reading your spoonfed NSG neolib garbage.
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Postby Glorious ReBublic of Alevstan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:55 pm

Sooooooo. Who wants to bet on how long until this gets reported?
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:55 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
True communism is always about suppressing everyone else! There will always be 1) another Stalin when it comes to communism; 2) another Hitler when it comes to socialism.


Stalin was not communist. End of story. He may have preached it, but he wasn't. Hitler wasn't socialist, he was a Nazi. While that STANDS for National Socialists, in reality he was a fascist. Please keep your political vocab up-to-date.


More suppression of my opinion.
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