Smacking Your Children is Good For Them

[Pimps Inc]

That's where my *Falcon punch* story comes in to play.There's discipline and then there is abuse.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

God forbid we have a little bit of firmness in our society. There is nothing wrong with disciplining a child with some physical force. Just living causes psychological trauma.

Actual experts in the field, people who know much, much, much, much, much more about the human mind than you or I, disagree.

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/ ... nking.aspx

http://alpha.fdu.edu/psychology/corporal_punishment.htm

I don't give a damn if it causes some petty emotional issues in certain cases. Spanking a child because they did something wrong is sometimes the right way to act. Some children, and people, only respond to force and you have to be forceful when dealing with them.

[The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate]

Nah, I don't think the anti-smacking bill will help anything. Not that I'm in favour of parents smacking their children...but legislation like this is not the way to go.

It was introduced to try and combat domestic violence but as of yet has not produced any discernible results. Youth suicide, for example, is at an all time high.

That's no good, but I doubt it's related to the bill.

Then again, I'm no expert in New Zealand politics or culture, so I could be way off

[Scomagia]

Actual experts in the field, people who know much, much, much, much, much more about the human mind than you or I, disagree.

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/ ... nking.aspx

http://alpha.fdu.edu/psychology/corporal_punishment.htm

I don't give a damn if it causes some petty emotional issues in certain cases. Spanking a child because they did something wrong is sometimes the right way to act. Some children, and people, only respond to force and you have to be forceful when dealing with them.

So you know better than actual psychologists. How very fucking conceited.

[Aeken]

Actual experts in the field, people who know much, much, much, much, much more about the human mind than you or I, disagree.

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/ ... nking.aspx

http://alpha.fdu.edu/psychology/corporal_punishment.htm

I don't give a damn if it causes some petty emotional issues in certain cases. Spanking a child because they did something wrong is sometimes the right way to act. Some children, and people, only respond to force and you have to be forceful when dealing with them.

Anxiety, depression, increased aggressiveness, modeling of punishing behavior, social withdrawal, delinquency, substance abuse, and impaired self concept aren't 'petty' emotional issues.

[Vicious Debaters]

I don't give a damn if it causes some petty emotional issues in certain cases. Spanking a child because they did something wrong is sometimes the right way to act. Some children, and people, only respond to force and you have to be forceful when dealing with them.

That's what a lazy parent says. The easy way out is to hit your child- the hard way out is to change their behavior with better and less traumatizing means.

[The Serbian Empire]

That's where my *Falcon punch* story comes in to play.There's discipline and then there is abuse.

The problem is we may discover groundings and other mild punishments given scientific research and that no punishment is the best punishment.

[Pimps Inc]

I don't give a damn if it causes some petty emotional issues in certain cases. Spanking a child because they did something wrong is sometimes the right way to act. Some children, and people, only respond to force and you have to be forceful when dealing with them.

Anxiety, depression, increased aggressiveness, modeling of punishing behavior, social withdrawal, delinquency, substance abuse, and impaired self concept aren't 'petty' emotional issues.

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

[The Serbian Empire]

Anxiety, depression, increased aggressiveness, modeling of punishing behavior, social withdrawal, delinquency, substance abuse, and impaired self concept aren't 'petty' emotional issues.

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

It's called do nothing... just like the US Congress.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Let me tell you a little story about myself.

I was a little shit growing up. I never did what people told me because I was too damn stubborn. My parents almost never used corporal punishment because they didn't believe in it. So you know what, they tried to reason with me and show me what I was doing was wrong, but I kept doing it. I always threw fits, back talked, and hit other kids when they upset me. They tried the corner method, taking away my toys, etc. but nothing ever really got through to me.

I remember growing up like this and then one day my father got really angry at me and grabbed my shirt, pinning me against the wall. He never did things like this. He held me there and looked me straight in the eye and told me to listen to him and not do whatever the hell it was I was doing. You know what, I damn well listened to him. It worked.

I never really went through corporal punishment but on those very rare occasions, and it is on those very rare occasions when it pierced my brain and made me listen. I don't care if your little studies show that it can cause some emotional damage when mishandled or however else. They are studies based on certain conditions with certain subjects. I'd have to really comb through them to see where the fine lines are and frankly I don't feel like doing so. I already know it works because it worked with me and I have zero ill will or feelings out of it.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Anyone who supports that man's position is spouting insensitive bullshit.

[Aeken]

Anxiety, depression, increased aggressiveness, modeling of punishing behavior, social withdrawal, delinquency, substance abuse, and impaired self concept aren't 'petty' emotional issues.

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

Revoking privileges, grounding, that kind of stuff. I dunno, I'm not a parent.

Of course!

[Lalaki]

I don't think smacking really helps anyone. It can breed resentment. There are other, more peaceful ways of conflict resolution.

[Scomagia]

Anxiety, depression, increased aggressiveness, modeling of punishing behavior, social withdrawal, delinquency, substance abuse, and impaired self concept aren't 'petty' emotional issues.

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

Positive and (non-physical) negative reinforcement are psychologically sound techniques.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Let me tell you a little story about myself.

I was a little shit growing up. I never did what people told me because I was too damn stubborn. My parents almost never used corporal punishment because they didn't believe in it. So you know what, they tried to reason with me and show me what I was doing was wrong, but I kept doing it. I always threw fits, back talked, and hit other kids when they upset me. They tried the corner method, taking away my toys, etc. but nothing ever really got through to me.

I remember growing up like this and then one day my father got really angry at me and grabbed my shirt, pinning me against the wall. He never did things like this. He held me there and looked me straight in the eye and told me to listen to him and not do whatever the hell it was I was doing. You know what, I damn well listened to him. It worked.

I never really went through corporal punishment but on those very rare occasions, and it is on those very rare occasions when it pierced my brain and made me listen. I don't care if your little studies show that it can cause some emotional damage when mishandled or however else. They are studies based on certain conditions with certain subjects. I'd have to really comb through them to see where the fine lines are and frankly I don't feel like doing so. I already know it works because it worked with me and I have zero ill will or feelings out of it.

Every little snotnosed bastard is not you. Don't presume that anything that works for you works for anyone else. And I believe all you've learned is a premise of authoritarianism and terrorism- that fear is a good motivator.

[Scomagia]

Let me tell you a little story about myself.

I was a little shit growing up. I never did what people told me because I was too damn stubborn. My parents almost never used corporal punishment because they didn't believe in it. So you know what, they tried to reason with me and show me what I was doing was wrong, but I kept doing it. I always threw fits, back talked, and hit other kids when they upset me. They tried the corner method, taking away my toys, etc. but nothing ever really got through to me.

I remember growing up like this and then one day my father got really angry at me and grabbed my shirt, pinning me against the wall. He never did things like this. He held me there and looked me straight in the eye and told me to listen to him and not do whatever the hell it was I was doing. You know what, I damn well listened to him. It worked.

I never really went through corporal punishment but on those very rare occasions, and it is on those very rare occasions when it pierced my brain and made me listen. I don't care if your little studies show that it can cause some emotional damage when mishandled or however else. They are studies based on certain conditions with certain subjects. I'd have to really comb through them to see where the fine lines are and frankly I don't feel like doing so. I already know it works because it worked with me and I have zero ill will or feelings out of it.

Anecdotes are worthless. Post data or accept that the medical community disagrees with you and you think you know better.

[Pimps Inc]

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

It's called do nothing... just like the US Congress.

Did you get that advice from Spongebob's magic conch?

[Rebellious Fishermen]

Let me tell you a little story about myself.

I was a little shit growing up. I never did what people told me because I was too damn stubborn. My parents almost never used corporal punishment because they didn't believe in it. So you know what, they tried to reason with me and show me what I was doing was wrong, but I kept doing it. I always threw fits, back talked, and hit other kids when they upset me. They tried the corner method, taking away my toys, etc. but nothing ever really got through to me.

I remember growing up like this and then one day my father got really angry at me and grabbed my shirt, pinning me against the wall. He never did things like this. He held me there and looked me straight in the eye and told me to listen to him and not do whatever the hell it was I was doing. You know what, I damn well listened to him. It worked.

I never really went through corporal punishment but on those very rare occasions, and it is on those very rare occasions when it pierced my brain and made me listen. I don't care if your little studies show that it can cause some emotional damage when mishandled or however else. They are studies based on certain conditions with certain subjects. I'd have to really comb through them to see where the fine lines are and frankly I don't feel like doing so. I already know it works because it worked with me and I have zero ill will or feelings out of it.

Every little snotnosed bastard is not you. Don't presume that anything that works for you works for anyone else. And I believe all you've learned is a premise of authoritarianism and terrorism- that fear is a good motivator.

It's not fear... it was respect. I respected him. Yeah, maybe it isn't the right case to use for every child, but it is the right move for some of them. Use common sense.

[Threlizdun]

Of course, it isn't like psychologists have found corporal punishment to actually promote those very things or anything.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

So what is the alternative?Let the kid get away with it and just take away his PS3 then the kid gets mad and yells"I HATE YOU" and gets "scarred for life".

On another note:RWBY!

Revoking privileges, grounding, that kind of stuff. I dunno, I'm not a parent.

Of course!

Those are painfully effective...and, for me, suck cause I'm on the receiving end.

[Scomagia]

Of course, it isn't like psychologists have found corporal punishment to actually promote those very things or anything.

No point in posting that link. It and another have been posted twice by myself and once by another, yet are being ignored by some folk.

[The Serbian Empire]

It's called do nothing... just like the US Congress.

Did you get that advice from Spongebob's magic conch.

Just be glad I'm not Plankton.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Every little snotnosed bastard is not you. Don't presume that anything that works for you works for anyone else. And I believe all you've learned is a premise of authoritarianism and terrorism- that fear is a good motivator.

It's not fear... it was respect. I respected him. Yeah, maybe it isn't the right case to use for every child, but it is the right move for some of them. Use common sense.

Pinning someone to the wall doesn't...whatever.
By the gods read the fucking link that's been posted here three fucking times already! Stop confirming your biases!

[Vicious Debaters]

It's not fear... it was respect. I respected him. Yeah, maybe it isn't the right case to use for every child, but it is the right move for some of them. Use common sense.

With all due respect my common sense is supported by statistics, respected by psychologists, and actually makes ethical sense. Meanwhile, apparently your common sense is the sort of sense people use to justify beating their children.

And that 'respect'? That's fear, all right.

[Pimps Inc]

If it worked for our ancestors......why doesn't it work for us?