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What is your religion?

Christianity
30
48%
Islam
1
2%
Buddhism
3
5%
Atheism
18
29%
Other
11
17%
 
Total votes : 63

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Shofercia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:27 pm

The Zionist Nation wrote:
Lingang wrote:What's there to discuss? No argument, nothing in the OP. What the hell is this?

It's turning into a warzone.


The question is who'll be the Israel to whose Palestine :P
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Planita
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Founded: May 01, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Planita » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Not this again :palm:

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The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate
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Founded: Feb 07, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Yeah, no. This is completely unnecessary, and just the sight of the OP makes me cringe...shall be locked very soon.
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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:
It's a belief.A faith if you will.

You must be new here?

It's the lack of one specific belief. And, though it is possible to have faith in it, not actually a faith.


You must have faith in atheism in order to be an atheist.Do you not?You can not prove God does not exist.Religion can not prove God does exist.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

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Sun Wukong
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Founded: Oct 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:29 pm

Benuty wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Little known fact: the name "Manichean" comes from the tendency of it's followers to loudly and repeatedly announce, "Mani Khai!" (Mani Lives!)

So let's not bring them out. In fact, let's keep them far, far away.

Well they are hardly as bad as the Samaritans, and those "Mandaeans" :P.

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Rebellious Fishermen
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Founded: Aug 19, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Rebellious Fishermen » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:30 pm

Christian but I'm thinking of checking out Buddhism.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:31 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:You must be new here?

It's the lack of one specific belief. And, though it is possible to have faith in it, not actually a faith.


You must have faith in atheism in order to be an atheist.Do you not?You can not prove God does not exist.Religion can not prove God does exist.

Nope. You don't have to prove or have faith in anything to not believe in something.

Sort of like you don't need to have faith not to believe in Bigfoot.
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Allector
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Founded: Oct 23, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Allector » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:31 pm

Agnostic as I can't prove or disprove the existence of a deity.

I grew up in a Catholic household and the entirety of my mother's side of the family was Catholic. Coincidentally, the entirety of my father's side of the family are atheists, though their beliefs had no influence over my own decision to be agnostic. I came to that decision in HS shortly after going through my confirmation into the Catholic church. I had studied the bible quite heavily up until that point, and there were too many inconsistencies and contradictions for me to take Catholicism, or any religion for that matter, seriously. However, being that I was raised Catholic I have a tremendous amount of respect for the faith and certain aspects within the religion, most notably charity.
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The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate
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Postby The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:33 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:You must be new here?

It's the lack of one specific belief. And, though it is possible to have faith in it, not actually a faith.


You must have faith in atheism in order to be an atheist.Do you not?You can not prove God does not exist.Religion can not prove God does exist.

"Faith" is absolutely not the right word here. Faith is generally believing in something when there's no provable evidence. Not believing that there is a god requires no faith, as there is nothing to put faith into. Believing that a god does exist requires faith; atheism is simply the default when exposed to no religious beliefs.
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Lingang
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Founded: Jan 16, 2012
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Postby Lingang » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:34 pm

The Zionist Nation wrote:
Lingang wrote:What's there to discuss? No argument, nothing in the OP. What the hell is this?

It's turning into a warzone.

So..... you purposefully wanted to start shit arguments over nothing, correct?
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The New Sea Territory
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Founded: Dec 13, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:34 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:
Keventle wrote:Atheism isn't a religion...


It's a belief.A faith if you will.


It's actually not.

Atheism is a lack of a belief.
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Pimps Inc
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:36 pm

But there is not Bigfootism.
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Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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District XIV
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Founded: Dec 01, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby District XIV » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:36 pm

District XIV wrote:I smell either puppetwanking or a large bastion of Christians intentionally ganging up on the thread - I mean look at the poll results...

To elaborate, these poll results don't match up with like every other poll on the subject of religion/irreligion we've had in the past :blink:

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The Serbian Empire
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Founded: Apr 18, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:37 pm

District XIV wrote:I smell either puppetwanking or a large bastion of Christians intentionally ganging up on the thread - I mean look at the poll results...

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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:37 pm

Pimps Inc wrote:But there is not Bigfootism.

The point is that you cannot have 'faith' or 'believe' in something that is a lack of faith.

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The Zionist Nation
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Zionist Nation » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:37 pm

Lingang wrote:
The Zionist Nation wrote:It's turning into a warzone.

So..... you purposefully wanted to start shit arguments over nothing, correct?

No.
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Slavija Slovenska
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Founded: Feb 04, 2014
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Postby Slavija Slovenska » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:39 pm

Keventle wrote:Atheism isn't a religion...

yes it is

Religion
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:

a set of belief concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies

the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:

something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:

Atheism
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
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Pimps Inc
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Postby Pimps Inc » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:40 pm

District XIV wrote:
Pimps Inc wrote:But there is not Bigfootism.

The point is that you cannot have 'faith' or 'believe' in something that is a lack of faith.


Belief=An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
Belief of not believing in God.They believe that the statement "God does not exist" is true.
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2024: The Long Peace - United Mexican States


Risottia wrote:
United States of White America wrote:Although Nietzsche was a god-fearing atheist and his quote is positive, I believe it is negative. I think God has died because of our corrupt, open society, where there is no objective sense of right and wrong. Instead, I propose to resurrect God and avenge him.


No way.

When we meet aliens from outer space, we'll yell:

We poison our air and water to weed out the weak!
We set off fission bombs in our only biosphere!
We nailed our god to a stick!
Don't fuck with the human race!

Kanye West 2024

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Mallorea and Riva
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:42 pm

Nothing to discuss in the op means no structure, no structure means chat and spam, so I'll just lock this now.
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