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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:49 pm

The Union of the West wrote:A question for Distruzio:

Under your original definition for what makes a Christian (the definition that excluded Protestants), would groups that identify with the Catholic tradition but are not necessarily in communion with the Catholic Church (independent Catholics) be considered Christians? And what about individuals who identify with the beliefs of the Catholic, Orthodox, etc... Churches but are not members of these churches?


Hmm... good question.
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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:56 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:A question for Distruzio:

Under your original definition for what makes a Christian (the definition that excluded Protestants), would groups that identify with the Catholic tradition but are not necessarily in communion with the Catholic Church (independent Catholics) be considered Christians? And what about individuals who identify with the beliefs of the Catholic, Orthodox, etc... Churches but are not members of these churches?


Hmm... good question.

I would assume they would be Christians under that definition because they don't necessarily reject Holy Tradition, Apostolic Succession, etc...
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:20 pm

The Union of the West wrote:A question for Distruzio:

Under your original definition for what makes a Christian (the definition that excluded Protestants), would groups that identify with the Catholic tradition but are not necessarily in communion with the Catholic Church (independent Catholics) be considered Christians? And what about individuals who identify with the beliefs of the Catholic, Orthodox, etc... Churches but are not members of these churches?


They'd be Christian. They'd be schismatics, sure. Christians nonetheless.
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Postby The Union of the West » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:22 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:A question for Distruzio:

Under your original definition for what makes a Christian (the definition that excluded Protestants), would groups that identify with the Catholic tradition but are not necessarily in communion with the Catholic Church (independent Catholics) be considered Christians? And what about individuals who identify with the beliefs of the Catholic, Orthodox, etc... Churches but are not members of these churches?


They'd be Christian. They'd be schismatics, sure. Christians nonetheless.

Even by your original definition?
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:30 pm

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They'd be Christian. They'd be schismatics, sure. Christians nonetheless.

Even by your original definition?


Disagreeing with doctrine is not disagreeing with dogma. They'd have to disagree with the traditional dogma of Christianity in order to qualify as something other than Christian. For instance, we Eastern Orthodox disagree with the Oriental Orthodox on doctrinal matters of such minor consequence that, after more than a thousand years, talks are under way to reunite the Churches. Even though these talks are on going, the current state between our Patriachs is schismatic rather than heretical. Schism can be healed. Heresy requires conversion.

Extra-Catholic Christians who are not in communion with the Pope yet remain Christian.

So, yes. Even by my original definition.
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Postby Mesrane » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:33 pm

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