Protestantism might just be Christianity

[Cata Larga]

Heresy is still a thing in modern theology? I thought we were more progressive by now.

[The Union of the West]

Heresy is still a thing in modern theology? I thought we were more progressive by now.

Heresy is adherence to dissenting opinion or doctrine. As long as there is organized religion with established ideas, there will be heresy.

[Skappola]

Heresy is still a thing in modern theology? I thought we were more progressive by now.

Heresy is adherence to dissenting opinion or doctrine. As long as there is organized religion with established ideas, there will be heresy.

And yet, strangely enough, Lutherans don't like being called heretics.

[Shaggai]

Heresy is still a thing in modern theology? I thought we were more progressive by now.

Heresy still exists. Burning the heretics does not.

[Skappola]

Heresy is still a thing in modern theology? I thought we were more progressive by now.

Heresy still exists. Burning the heretics does not.

[The Union of the West]

Heresy is adherence to dissenting opinion or doctrine. As long as there is organized religion with established ideas, there will be heresy.

And yet, strangely enough, Lutherans don't like being called heretics.

I don't see how it's offensive. It just means that you don't agree with popular opinion.

[Skappola]

And yet, strangely enough, Lutherans don't like being called heretics.

I don't see how it's offensive. It just means that you don't agree with popular opinion.

Probably because yelling out heretic has historically led to a good ol' fashioned public execution.

[Herrebrugh]

I don't see how it's offensive. It just means that you don't agree with popular opinion.

Probably because yelling out heretic has historically led to a good ol' fashioned public execution.

Hey, it's not all bad. I mean, that's pretty much why Netherland was formed.

Well, to not be burned, that is.

[Skappola]

Probably because yelling out heretic has historically led to a good ol' fashioned public execution.

Hey, it's not all bad. I mean, that's pretty much why Netherland was formed.

Well, to not be burned, that is.

Well, that's one way to make the best out of a situation I suppose.

[The Third Nova Terra of Scrin]

Heresy is a fundamental thing in an organized set of beliefs. If you believe that doctrines are absolute, the other camp are always going to be heretics.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

From the Christian discussion Thread:

Postby Distruzio » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:21 pm

Hakio wrote:
Jesus may have never existed at all.


Even if He didn't, the Church does. Ergo, it doesn't really matter.

Dis whinges that us Prods focus on the Bible so much that we forget about Jesus. Now Dis says Church is more important than Jesus.

[The Union of the West]

From the Christian discussion Thread:

Postby Distruzio » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:21 pm

Hakio wrote:
Jesus may have never existed at all.


Even if He didn't, the Church does. Ergo, it doesn't really matter.

Dis whinges that us Prods focus on the Bible so much that we forget about Jesus. Now Dis says Church is more important than Jesus.

In his defense, this is what he wrote later regarding that comment.

Say what?

Thats what I get for having a conversation with my son while typing a response. I don't even recall what I was thinking. Disregard.

[Distruzio]

From the Christian discussion Thread:

Postby Distruzio » Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:21 pm

Hakio wrote:
Jesus may have never existed at all.


Even if He didn't, the Church does. Ergo, it doesn't really matter.

Dis whinges that us Prods focus on the Bible so much that we forget about Jesus. Now Dis says Church is more important than Jesus.

It isn't more important than Jesus. It is Jesus.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

From the Christian discussion Thread:



Dis whinges that us Prods focus on the Bible so much that we forget about Jesus. Now Dis says Church is more important than Jesus.

It isn't more important than Jesus. It is Jesus.

Then how can you make the claim that the metaphorical church of Protestantism is bullshit when you yourself are affirming that the church is a metaphorical representation of Jesus?

[Distruzio]

It isn't more important than Jesus. It is Jesus.

Then how can you make the claim that the metaphorical church of Protestantism is bullshit when you yourself are affirming that the church is a metaphorical representation of Jesus?

Not a metaphorical representation of Jesus. Is Jesus. Is. Jesus.

[Vissegaard]

Of course Protestantism is not Christianity. It's obviously Hinduism.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Then how can you make the claim that the metaphorical church of Protestantism is bullshit when you yourself are affirming that the church is a metaphorical representation of Jesus?

Not a metaphorical representation of Jesus. Is Jesus. Is. Jesus.

Metaphor:

If I say my eyes are two pits of darkness I am not calling them pits of darkness; I'm using a metaphor to say that my eyes are dark as shit.

If I say the church is Jesus I am not saying the church is Jesus because Jesus is a person and the Church is an institution; I'm only using a metaphor to say that the Church was founded by Jesus and if follows Jesus teachings.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Of course Protestantism is not Christianity. It's obviously Hinduism.

Now AnaBaptism makes sense.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Not a metaphorical representation of Jesus. Is Jesus. Is. Jesus.

Metaphor:

If I say my eyes are two pits of darkness I am not calling them pits of darkness; I'm using a metaphor to say that my eyes are dark as shit.

If I say the church is Jesus I am not saying the church is Jesus because Jesus is a person and the Church is an institution; I'm only using a metaphor to say that the Church was founded by Jesus and if follows Jesus teachings.

Except that's not what Dys is saying. Jesus is the Spiritual and authoritative head of the Church, it is a spiritual extension of Jesus, it is Jesus... to the Orthodox. To the Catholics very similar but we believe in the monarchist system, where Jesus went home to sit at the hand of the Father, and the Pope acts as his Steward till the Second Coming. It's both Physical and Spiritual, but more Physical to the Catholics, more Spiritual to the Orthodox.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Well this is utter bullshit, Christ's own disciples had conferences where they hashed out important theological points of their religion.

Well disciples of a heterorthodox sect anyway .

Oh, Jew silly

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Metaphor:

If I say my eyes are two pits of darkness I am not calling them pits of darkness; I'm using a metaphor to say that my eyes are dark as shit.

If I say the church is Jesus I am not saying the church is Jesus because Jesus is a person and the Church is an institution; I'm only using a metaphor to say that the Church was founded by Jesus and if follows Jesus teachings.

Except that's not what Dys is saying. Jesus is the Spiritual and authoritative head of the Church, it is a spiritual extension of Jesus, it is Jesus... to the Orthodox. To the Catholics very similar but we believe in the monarchist system, where Jesus went home to sit at the hand of the Father, and the Pope acts as his Steward till the Second Coming. It's both Physical and Spiritual, but more Physical to the Catholics, more Spiritual to the Orthodox.

And that differs from the claim that the Church is a metaphorical institution in Protestantism... how?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Except that's not what Dys is saying. Jesus is the Spiritual and authoritative head of the Church, it is a spiritual extension of Jesus, it is Jesus... to the Orthodox. To the Catholics very similar but we believe in the monarchist system, where Jesus went home to sit at the hand of the Father, and the Pope acts as his Steward till the Second Coming. It's both Physical and Spiritual, but more Physical to the Catholics, more Spiritual to the Orthodox.

And that differs from the claim that the Church is a metaphorical institution in Protestantism... how?

It's not metaphorical, It's literal.

[Arcov]

Then how can you make the claim that the metaphorical church of Protestantism is bullshit when you yourself are affirming that the church is a metaphorical representation of Jesus?

Not a metaphorical representation of Jesus. Is Jesus. Is. Jesus.

So then Jesus supported the burning of Lutherans and innocent witches? So Jesus supported holy wars against other religions and heretics? So Jesus supported Franco's massacres in Spain? So Jesus has been unable to form a consistent opinion for centuries?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Not a metaphorical representation of Jesus. Is Jesus. Is. Jesus.

So then Jesus supported the burning of Lutherans and innocent witches? So Jesus supported holy wars against other religions and heretics? So Jesus supported Franco's massacres in Spain? So Jesus has been unable to form a consistent opinion for centuries?

What you expect? he's a carpenter.

[Menassa]

So then Jesus supported the burning of Lutherans and innocent witches? So Jesus supported holy wars against other religions and heretics? So Jesus supported Franco's massacres in Spain? So Jesus has been unable to form a consistent opinion for centuries?

What you expect? he's a carpenter.

Is that a hippie joke?