Protestantism might just be Christianity

[Ahvulon]

Actually, doesn't the Bible say unless you accept Jesus Christ as your savior and live a Christian life, then you will? Other religions worship other gods, which is a sin in the eyes of God, and no sin will enter into Heaven.

Well, I stand corrected.

Which is why we are to witness, but not shove it down people's throats.

[Ayreonia]

The US isn't the world. In Europe, Protestant states are often more socially and culturally liberal than Catholic or Orthodox ones.

I was more countering his last sentence. I didn't intend for it to be a stand-alone argument.

Yeah, I saw that as I scrolled up. Misunderstood your meaning.

Still, my point stands as one cannot go ahead and say "all Protestants are/do/act/smell like x".Just like the vast majority of Baptists are closer to hippies than the WBC.

[Dyakovo]

Indeed. But Protestant buildings are not administered by the collegiate of Bishops. Therefore, Protestant buildings are places of bibliolatry.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America has its own set of Bishops. If you are saying that Protestant churches must be administered by Catholic/Orthodox bishops... they would not continue to be Protestant and your argument has devolved to "Protestants Should Not be Protestant Because They Are Protestant".

It hasn't devolved to that because that's what it started as.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

Look at Protestantism in the United States. Many tough-minded conservatives are Protestant, firmly believing in a traditionalist interpretation of the Constitution.

The US isn't the world. In Europe, Protestant states are often more socially and culturally liberal than Catholic or Orthodox ones.

The only Orthodox state in Europe is Greece, and the only Protestant ones are the UK, Norway and Denmark.

Unless you were referring to something other than state religion, your comparison is pretty useless.

[Bolrieg]

Yep that's religion for you "If you don't worship our specific method of worship at this specific style of place you're going to go to hell" It's never been about faith in a deity it's always been about profit and power. If you're religious read your holy book for yourself and do whatever it is you interpret from it, as long as it isn't hurting others, don't just pay someone to read it for you as quite often they have their own agendas.

Nooo. Protestants don't think Catholics or Jews will go to hell. And you could flip that. Jews don't think Catholics or Protestants will go to hell for not being Jewish. Of course, there are always the nutjobs, like the Islamist extremists.

I am not having a go at those who believe in this, but the three things of religion I don't agree with.

Those who force it on us threatening us with whatever it is.

The so called "Holy men" who read bits from the scripture in order to collect money from their listeners.(Note one passage stated that Jesus went apeshit on the priests who was making money from their followers so they're not Christians either following the OP's reasoning or anyone who takes the religion seriously)

Those who have been dickheads all their lives who have started going to the church "Just in case". So they can act all pious and pray for forgiveness on whichever holy day it is and then continuing acting like a twat the rest of the week.(If God or whoever exists wouldn't they see right through this if they're suppose to be all knowing and all powerful.)

[Mesrane]

Well, I stand corrected.

Which is why we are to witness, but not shove it down people's throats.

Mhmm.

[Ayreonia]

The US isn't the world. In Europe, Protestant states are often more socially and culturally liberal than Catholic or Orthodox ones.

The only Orthodox state in Europe is Greece, and the only Protestant ones are the UK, Norway and Denmark.

Unless you were referring to something other than state religion, your comparison is pretty useless.

Cute. I never mentioned state religion.

[Conkerials]

This seems very "no true Scotsman"-ish. They are Christian if they believe that Jesus Christ is their lord and saviour, simple as that. Unless you want to call them something stupid like "Jesusites"?

Its as "no true scotsman" as pointing out that a patrol car is not an ambulance. They both may be emergency response vehicles, but one is not the other.

If EMS vehicle = Christianity and patrol car = Protestantism and Ambulance = Catholicism. Then your point is made invalid. Because everyone knows Protestantism isn't Catholicism.

If anything you just contradicted yourself by putting them under the same banner.

[Rephesus]

So basically you're saying Protestantism split from Catholicism therefore it's hearsay. You could argue the exact same again the Orthodox faith, hell you could even argue that Assyrian and Ethiopian churches are the only 'real' ones. Doesn't meant you're right. The fact is these denominations exist, and people believe in them, who are you to tell people they aren't what they identify themselves as? This argument is pointless. And this thread is just a lighter.

[Warzone Helper]

Usually any thread involving religion here are flooded with anti-theists. Shall the same happen here?

EDIT: I've looked around, and surprisingly it hasn't.

[Ahvulon]

Nooo. Protestants don't think Catholics or Jews will go to hell. And you could flip that. Jews don't think Catholics or Protestants will go to hell for not being Jewish. Of course, there are always the nutjobs, like the Islamist extremists.

I am not having a go at those who believe in this, but the three things of religion I don't agree with.

Those who force it on us threatening us with whatever it is.

The so called "Holy men" who read bits from the scripture in order to collect money from their listeners.(Note one passage stated that Jesus went apeshit on the priests who was making money from their followers so they're not Christians either following the OP's reasoning or anyone who takes the religion seriously)

Those who have been dickheads all their lives who have started going to the church "Just in case". So they can act all pious and pray for forgiveness on whichever holy day it is and then continuing acting like a twat the rest of the week.(If God or whoever exists wouldn't they see right through this if they're suppose to be all knowing and all powerful.)

As a Protestant, those three things piss me off. For point one, the Bible teaches love and respect, which gets more converts anyway. For point two, that's why Preachers at my Church always have jobs xD We do take up a love offering for our Pastor on the 5th Sunday of a month, but that's more because we appreciate him being there. Point three, he does, and they won't make it into Heaven:

I would rather ye were hot or cold, but because ye are lukewarm, I will spew thee from mine mouth.

Paraphrasing a bit there.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Usually any thread involving religion here are flooded with anti-theists. Shall the same happen here?

We're already here.

[Nationalist State of Knox]

The only Orthodox state in Europe is Greece, and the only Protestant ones are the UK, Norway and Denmark.

Unless you were referring to something other than state religion, your comparison is pretty useless.

Cute. I never mentioned state religion.

Protestant states

[Conkerials]

Usually any thread involving religion here are flooded with anti-theists. Shall the same happen here?

You rang?

[Margno]

If the official position of your church is that Protestants are Christians, you can scarcely say that Protestants are not Christians because they disregard holy tradition and don't assent the official positions of the church.
The objection itself puts you in contradiction with holy tradition. You've found yourself opposed to the greater swath of Orthodox and Catholic Christians. The only possible explanations would be:
1. You are right that no one who differs from holy tradition is Christian, and the church is right that Protestants are Christians, therefore you are not Christian, but those who reject your premise are Christians,
(Which has the interesting axion that holy tradition is not actually true, for Protestants are not Christians, even though Christians must believe that it is true: they must be wrong)
2. You are wrong that no one who differs from holy tradition is Christian, and the Church is right that Protestants are Christians, or
3. Holy tradition is not valid and the church may be right or wrong that Protestants are Christians, but cannot be known to be right or wrong a priori, so a different metric is needed to define the bounds of Christianity.
Of these, I would probably assent 2, though others will surely assent 3.
I could explain why Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox are all Christians if you want, but maybe it's better if you accept this simply out of trust in the church, or at least, first accept it out of trust in the church.

[Conkerials]

This argument is basically "They don't worship like I do, therefore they are false."

[Todlichebujoku]

This argument is basically "They don't worship like I do, therefore they are false."

That's basically it, from what I've seen from him so far.

[Mesrane]

This argument is basically "They don't worship like I do, therefore they are false."

Pretty much.

[The Union of the West]

This argument is basically "They don't worship like I do, therefore they are false."

It's more like "Their beliefs slightly differ from mine, even in parts of Christianity that aren't all that important, therefore they are false."

[Ayreonia]

Cute. I never mentioned state religion.

Protestant states

I've no interest in getting into a semantics debate, sorry. I'm sure I don't really need to explain what I meant.

[The New Sea Territory]

...except it is.....

[Conkerials]

This argument is basically "They don't worship like I do, therefore they are false."

It's more like "Their beliefs slightly differ from mine, even in parts of Christianity that aren't all that important, therefore they are false."

What I largely saw in OP was that protestants deny patriarchal authority therefore bible worshippers.

[The New Sea Territory]

I've no interest in getting into a semantics debate, sorry. I'm sure I don't really need to explain what I meant.

People who have "no interest in getting into a semantics debate" are usually the people who don't know what they are talking about.

[Barsovich]

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[The Union of the West]

It's more like "Their beliefs slightly differ from mine, even in parts of Christianity that aren't all that important, therefore they are false."

What I largely saw in OP was that protestants deny patriarchal authority therefore bible worshippers.

That's basically what his main argument was, which is ironic because Mark 7:7-9 says, "And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men —the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.” He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition."