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Does white privilege exist?

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Postby Murkwood » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:19 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:You point was that Asians are not a monolitic group so o'reillies data is wrong. .

No, it wasn't. Again, come back when you do understand it.

Instead of saying "you don't understand", how about you respectfully tell him what you think is the difference?
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

Catholicism has the fullness of the splendor of truth: The Bible and the Church Fathers agree!

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:24 am

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Slavonian kingdom wrote:Every month is American history Month.

Oh I see. You aren't even in High School yet, huh? Otherwise, you would know that high school students also take World History.

Silly me, I'll just go ahead and read your posts with that context.

What is the problem about World history? It teachs all other histories besides American.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:25 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Oh I see. You aren't even in High School yet, huh? Otherwise, you would know that high school students also take World History.

Silly me, I'll just go ahead and read your posts with that context.

What is the problem about World history? It teachs all other histories besides American.

America didn't exist as a nationstate 250 years ago.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:26 am

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Mavorpen wrote:Oh I see. You aren't even in High School yet, huh? Otherwise, you would know that high school students also take World History.

Silly me, I'll just go ahead and read your posts with that context.

What is the problem about World history? It teachs all other histories besides American.

...What? When did I say I have a problem with World History?
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:27 am

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Slavonian kingdom wrote:So dont complain about him ignoring that Asians are "a wide variety of nationalities" when whites are also

Fairer skin complexion receives less attention from the authorities, however.

Asians come in all shades. Caucasians come in one shade, with a few tanner varieties, such as Armenians or Sicilians.

So, you can see differences between a Chinese and Vietnamese?

There skins are both the same. It is culture what makes them different just like other groups pf whites.

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:29 am

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Slavonian kingdom wrote:What is the problem about World history? It teachs all other histories besides American.

...What? When did I say I have a problem with World History?

Why did you mention World history than?

In all schools around the world there is world and national history.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:29 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Fairer skin complexion receives less attention from the authorities, however.

Asians come in all shades. Caucasians come in one shade, with a few tanner varieties, such as Armenians or Sicilians.

So, you can see differences between a Chinese and Vietnamese?

There skins are both the same. It is culture what makes them different just like other groups pf whites.

You can, however, see the difference between an Indian, who are commonly and mistakenly called "Arabs" and A Chinese individual.

The point is, darker skin tones face more harassment from at large law enforcement than lighter skin tones.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:30 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:...What? When did I say I have a problem with World History?

Why did you mention World history than?

In all schools around the world there is world and national history.

Because you said "every month is American History month," which is nonsense considering that World History also exists in American schools.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:32 am

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Slavonian kingdom wrote:Why did you mention World history than?

In all schools around the world there is world and national history.

Because you said "every month is American History month," which is nonsense considering that World History also exists in American schools.

Yes. Because you said that every month is White history month implying that American history is the same as White history.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:33 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Because you said "every month is American History month," which is nonsense considering that World History also exists in American schools.

Yes. Because you said that every month is White history month implying that American history is the same as White history.

Well in terms of mainly Western European Caucasians, it is.

We don't teach much if any African or Native cultural heritage.

Of course, it isn't the history of all white people.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:34 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:Yes. Because you said that every month is White history month implying that American history is the same as White history.

No, I didn't imply that. Not one bit. I'm arguing the exact opposite. Are you even reading my posts?
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:35 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:So, you can see differences between a Chinese and Vietnamese?

There skins are both the same. It is culture what makes them different just like other groups pf whites.

You can, however, see the difference between an Indian, who are commonly and mistakenly called "Arabs" and A Chinese individual.

The point is, darker skin tones face more harassment from at large law enforcement than lighter skin tones.


But O'Reily by Asians his data specificslly meant thoose people with the typicall East Asian race. He said that thoose are even priveleged than the Whites which disproves that there is White privelege in America.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:37 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You can, however, see the difference between an Indian, who are commonly and mistakenly called "Arabs" and A Chinese individual.

The point is, darker skin tones face more harassment from at large law enforcement than lighter skin tones.


But O'Reily by Asians his data specificslly meant thoose people with the typicall East Asian race. He said that thoose are even priveleged than the Whites which disproves that there is White privelege in America.

No, my friend. It does not. Per capita income may be higher, but those with more Americanised names and lighter skin tone have better chances of getting a job or avoiding law enforcement scrutiny, respectively.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:38 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You can, however, see the difference between an Indian, who are commonly and mistakenly called "Arabs" and A Chinese individual.

The point is, darker skin tones face more harassment from at large law enforcement than lighter skin tones.


But O'Reily by Asians his data specificslly meant thoose people with the typicall East Asian race. He said that thoose are even priveleged than the Whites which disproves that there is White privelege in America.

No it fucking doesn't. He claimed that Asians on average have higher median earnings. He then made the logical jump that this means they are privileged. This is not true. If you actually compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges, you understand that Bill's conclusion is just plain fucking wrong. Asians with similar education, background, etc to whites actually make on average LESS. Bill uses data in an incredibly dishonest way. And you fell for it.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:38 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:Yes. Because you said that every month is White history month implying that American history is the same as White history.

Well in terms of mainly Western European Caucasians, it is.

We don't teach much if any African or Native cultural heritage.

Of course, it isn't the history of all white people.

We would if they had a written history. Also, even if they did they never influenced the US cultural spectrum. Without the English there would not be a US as we know.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:41 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:We would if they had a written history.

Except, they fucking do. And even if they didn't, things passed down or recorded orally can be just as, or more valid than written records.
Slavonian kingdom wrote:Also, even if they did they never influenced the US cultural spectrum. Without the English there would not be a US as we know.

You DO know what slavery is, right?
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:45 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:We would if they had a written history.

Except, they fucking do. And even if they didn't, things passed down or recorded orally can be just as, or more valid than written records.
Slavonian kingdom wrote:Also, even if they did they never influenced the US cultural spectrum. Without the English there would not be a US as we know.

You DO know what slavery is, right?

Writing system of Africa has nothing to do with America. We are here debating why many think American history=White history as you clearly demonstrated.

That is the true. Slaves did not influenced anything besides providing cheap labour. If same sailor went from Africa to the Americas to start a colony than you would be right.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:48 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:Writing system of Africa has nothing to do with America. We are here debating why many think American history=White history as you clearly demonstrated.

Cool, so you admit you were wrong. Got it.
Slavonian kingdom wrote:That is the true. Slaves did not influenced anything besides providing cheap labour.

And that cheap labor largely drove the United States economy. And the existence of those slaves spurred the Civil War. And the descendants of those slaves contributed to the American culture significantly with innovations in music and the arts in general.

Thank you for demonstrating WHY people need to be taught this. Because otherwise, they make downright stupid claims like the one you've just made.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:55 am

No, it is just that I see slavery as a social process that existed for milleniums. You are the one who sees slavery=blacks. Well since race is a social.construct blacks shoukd not be upset about slavery. Since race is a social construct black history month must be abolished.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:56 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:No, it is just that I see slavery as a social process that existed for milleniums. You are the one who sees slavery=blacks. Well since race is a social.construct blacks shoukd not be upset about slavery. Since race is a social construct black history month must be abolished.

Okay, given that you've just decided to post gibberish instead of actually responding to what I posted, I'll take that as a concession. Wish I could say it was enjoyable discussing this with you, but, not really.
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:57 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:No, it is just that I see slavery as a social process that existed for milleniums. You are the one who sees slavery=blacks. Well since race is a social.construct blacks shoukd not be upset about slavery. Since race is a social construct black history month must be abolished.

Slavery in the United States was decidedly based on race.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:58 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:No, it is just that I see slavery as a social process that existed for milleniums. You are the one who sees slavery=blacks. Well since race is a social.construct blacks shoukd not be upset about slavery. Since race is a social construct black history month must be abolished.

Slavery in the United States was decidedly based on race.

Again, I can't help but feeling it's just a really bad Poe and that he's trying to play the role of someone really really ignorant of U.S. history.

I can dream, right?
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"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:59 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Slavery in the United States was decidedly based on race.

Again, I can't help but felling it's just a really bad Poe and that he's trying to play the role of someone really really ignorant of U.S. history.

I can dream, right?

I wish, but if he is a Poe, he's yet to make me angry yet.

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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:03 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Slavonian kingdom wrote:No, it is just that I see slavery as a social process that existed for milleniums. You are the one who sees slavery=blacks. Well since race is a social.construct blacks shoukd not be upset about slavery. Since race is a social construct black history month must be abolished.

Slavery in the United States was decidedly based on race.

Race does not exist. It is a social construct.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:07 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Slavery in the United States was decidedly based on race.

Race does not exist. It is a social construct.

Slavery in the US was based on the social construct of race.

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