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Bill O'Reilly Denies then Proves White Privilege

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Does white privilege exist?

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Bill O'Reilly Denies then Proves White Privilege

Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:02 am

Ah, nothing says "The O'Reilly Factor" like opening up a segment with this:

"White Privilege: That is the subject of this evening's 'Talking Points Memo.'"

The Fox News host had a heated discussion with Megyn Kelly Monday night about the concept of "white privilege," during which Kelly defended the idea and the evidence that supports its existence. But apparently O'Reilly still wasn't convinced, because he was back at it Tuesday night with another important announcement.

"Talking Points does not, does not, believe in white privilege," he said.

In case you didn't catch that one, don't worry, here it is written out for you:

white privilege

O'Reilly went on to drop some statistics about unemployment and how Asian Americans have a lower unemployment rate than White Americans so really we should be talking about "Asian privilege."

"There is no question that African-Americans have a much harder time succeeding in our society," he argued. "Even whites do. But the primary reason is not skin color. It's education and not only book learning."

O'Reilly has been talking about the idea of white privilege for months now, denying that it's real but also making it known that he is "exempt" from white privilege because he once worked in an ice cream shop.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/2 ... 22174.html
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Postby Skappola » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:04 am

Do you want to get a less biased source?
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:05 am

Skappola wrote:Do you want to get a less biased source?

Here's the video unedited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEIZswvRVU
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:07 am

Skappola wrote:Do you want to get a less biased source?

I don't know... Bill O'Reilly himself is pretty biased.
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Postby The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:08 am

Saw this on TYT.

Yes, white privilege certainly exists in one form or another, but that doesn't mean we should feel some sort of "white guilt" for it. We should just acknowledge that it exists so that we can understand some of the struggles people of other races can go through.
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Postby Vissegaard » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:08 am

Meh... I don't know, I don't care.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:10 am

Everyone except for the poorest African who has no limbs, is homosexual, transgender, infected with Ebola, and mentally handicapped has privilege of some kind or another

Recognise it. Understand it. Don't be ashamed of it, but try to fix it, especially when it harms others.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:11 am

The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate wrote:Saw this on TYT.

Yes, white privilege certainly exists in one form or another, but that doesn't mean we should feel some sort of "white guilt" for it. We should just acknowledge that it exists so that we can understand some of the struggles people of other races can go through.

White guilt is the only way that people can supposedly counter their white privilege, but does it disappear just by having guilt over being white? Nope.
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Postby Glasgia » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:13 am

Bill O'Reilly says something stupid, Pope is Catholic, bears shit in woods - More news at ten. I've waited so long to be the first to make that comment

The Lithuanian-Surinamese Caliphate wrote:Saw this on TYT.

Yes, white privilege certainly exists in one form or another, but that doesn't mean we should feel some sort of "white guilt" for it. We should just acknowledge that it exists so that we can understand some of the struggles people of other races can go through.


Acknowledge it exists, then do something about it so whites aren't any more priviliged - We need to create a flat base for all to push off from, white or black, Muslim or Atheist, working or upper class.
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Postby Skappola » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:15 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
Skappola wrote:Do you want to get a less biased source?

Here's the video unedited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeEIZswvRVU

Thank you, there are few sources more biased than a Huffington Post opinion piece.

To get this out of the way: O'reilly doesn't believe in Asian Privelage, obviously. It was just to prove a point.
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I really don't believe White Privilege is a big problem today. The problem is less that Whites get more privileges than other ethnic groups, but that a selection of ethnic groups get discriminated against in specific areas. Hispanics will occasionally get glared at near the border and Blacks will occasionally get discriminated against in parts of the South, but Blacks are usually treated equally in SoCal and Hispanics are usually treated normally in the South. However, calling this "White Privilege" suggests that Whites everywhere in the US discriminate against all other races, which isn't true. These days, no one other than the extremely racist believe that Whites are inherently better than all other races/ethnicities and should be given more privileges. The problem is lingering stereotypical views against specific ethnicities in specific areas. In that sense, I think O'reilly is right.
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Postby Estado Nacional » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:16 am

Glasgia wrote:Bill O'Reaily says something stupid, Pope is Catholic, bears shit in woods - More news at ten. I've waited so long to be the first to make that comment


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Estado Nacional wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Bill O'Reaily says something stupid, Pope is Catholic, bears shit in woods - More news at ten. I've waited so long to be the first to make that comment


I bet you feel accomplished.


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Postby Evil Grantica » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:29 am

There's absolutely historical white privilege in the sense that whites had more rights under the law than blacks (at least in America). However, historically, there are often major disparities between groups. Malaysia is a great example. The ethnic Chinese, who make up a tiny percentage of the population, own most of Malaysia's capital despite facing unfair laws and being a tiny minority. However, they came in poor and worked into riches.

The disparities between whites and blacks and Asians might be less sinister than you think. I recommend this speech that Thomas Sowell, a noted black economist, gave a while back. It's a historical look at disparities. Quite good.

http://www.tsowell.com/spracecu.html
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Postby Kravanica » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:34 am

I think that's the most biased source I've ever seen. And I watch Fox, so I know what bias is.
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Postby Herskerstad » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:56 am

The only thing more obnoxious than true white privileged examples are the various people who spend each day harping on about it.
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Postby Margno » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:02 pm

Privilege isn't a thing, only advantage. They're not the same. Whiteness as such is essentially an advantage in America, and that advantage, like all advantages, must be ceded. But that doesn't make it reasonable to talk about what you're "sick of white males doing."
What's the difference? To have an advantage is to have a greater degree of power, whether economic, political, or social. Privilege is a posited moral effect which makes those who have advantages worse and less valuable people. When it goes along with assumption, which it almost always does, it makes anyone who even looks like they might have been offered an advantage at some point worse and less valuable people. Privilege says that you can stereotype an entire group of people, dislike them, oppose them at every turn, and do everything that you condemn when done by others, so long as you target members of the beneficiary class. Privilege says that people who happen to be born with the wrong sex or orientation or skin color are inferior people; in other words, privilege refers to people, advantage to situations. Advantage simply states that there is a wrong which must be rectified.
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Postby Saruhan » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:03 pm

ah yes, WHITE PRIVILEGE screams the northern European protestants. Conveniently ignoring Eastern, Southern, and even Northern Europeans who were catholics. They weren't given any favours for "whiteness"

Hell, I have still living family who remember being kicked out of swimming pools, restaurants, clubs, etc because they happened to be Serbs, or Italians. Whiteness sure benefited them, didn't it? I've been called a "fucking wog" and a "murderer", I guess that's just my white privilege?
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White Privilege exists, however it's dying out.
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Lordieth wrote:Listening to Fox News is like being slowly brain poisoned.

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Cyrisnia wrote:
Lordieth wrote:Listening to Fox News is like being slowly brain poisoned.

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I just can't sit and watch it for more than 10 minutes. It's infuriating that a news channel can so brazenly lie and distort the facts and get away with that. Maybe it's an American thing.
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I think we should start a poll to petition the mods to get Bill O'Reilly's name banned from NSG. He is the epitome of irrationality, and should be forgotten.
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The New Sea Territory wrote:I think we should start a poll to petition the mods to get Bill O'Reilly's name banned from NSG. He is the epitome of irrationality, and should be forgotten.

Yes, along with that quack Bill Maher.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:08 pm

Pandeeria wrote:White Privilege exists, however it's dying out.


Yes. Fox thinks "dying out" and "nonexistent" are synonymous, just like "democrat" and "socialist", "atheist" and "Nazi" and "healthcare" and "uberebulbiggubmenttakinovermanrevlutinnowfuckobamathekenyanislamomarxist!"
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Benuty wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:I think we should start a poll to petition the mods to get Bill O'Reilly's name banned from NSG. He is the epitome of irrationality, and should be forgotten.

Yes, along with that quack Bill Maher.


At times, I don't think Maher is really trying to be rational. He's a comedian :p
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