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Should Woman also have to register for the draft?

Yes
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No
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In certain cases
18
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:02 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:I don't think women should be drafted, though I also oppose constriction at all times.

Then they should not get equal pay

They should get equal pay. Nobody should be drafted, it is involuntary servitude.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:05 pm

It's inherently sexist to not include Women.

However, I think a better thing to is to completely abolish the draft.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Greater Weselton » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:06 pm

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Greater Weselton wrote:No one should have to register for the draft. It is forced labor and unconstitutional.

The superme court ruled it is

The Supreme Court ruled wrong.
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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:10 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Then they should not get equal pay

They should get equal pay. Nobody should be drafted, it is involuntary servitude.

Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.
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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:11 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:The superme court ruled it is

The Supreme Court ruled wrong.

But world peace cant be achived when lunitices have power
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:12 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:They should get equal pay. Nobody should be drafted, it is involuntary servitude.

Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.


No, our voluntary military alone could fend of any threat. Invasion of the mainland US is absolutely futile.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:13 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:They should get equal pay. Nobody should be drafted, it is involuntary servitude.

Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.

I guaran-damn-tee you that should DPRK, Russian, or ChiCom paratroopers suddenly begin raining from the skies onto American soil (*giggle*) there will be no need for a draft because the volunteer lines will stretch blocks.

As such is not going to happen, it's rather wasteful to process tens of thousands of paperwork bullshit cards and papers every month.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:16 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:They should get equal pay. Nobody should be drafted, it is involuntary servitude.

Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.

1. Use spaces after your comas
2. The US has the strongest military in the world, I doubt we'll get overrun anytime soon.(You think NK could overrun America, really?)
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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:17 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.

I guaran-damn-tee you that should DPRK, Russian, or ChiCom paratroopers suddenly begin raining from the skies onto American soil (*giggle*) there will be no need for a draft because the volunteer lines will stretch blocks.

As such is not going to happen, it's rather wasteful to process tens of thousands of paperwork bullshit cards and papers every month.

Tell me a person that likes war,that they will just go defend other people,people dont like fighting,they would rather surrender,then rebel other then keep their country
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:19 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:I guaran-damn-tee you that should DPRK, Russian, or ChiCom paratroopers suddenly begin raining from the skies onto American soil (*giggle*) there will be no need for a draft because the volunteer lines will stretch blocks.

As such is not going to happen, it's rather wasteful to process tens of thousands of paperwork bullshit cards and papers every month.

Tell me a person that likes war,that they will just go defend other people,people dont like fighting,they would rather surrender,then rebel other then keep their country


That's why people volunteer to join the combat-side of the military. Because they don't want tot fight. :roll:
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:21 pm

New haven america wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.

1. Use spaces after your comas
2. The US has the strongest military in the world, I doubt we'll get overrun anytime soon.(You think NK could overrun America, really?)

If the people dont join the army
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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:23 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. Use spaces after your comas
2. The US has the strongest military in the world, I doubt we'll get overrun anytime soon.(You think NK could overrun America, really?)

If the people dont join the army

Yet again, The US has the strongest(Volunteer) military on the planet.

We're not getting overrun anytime soon.
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Postby UED » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:23 pm

We should draft every man, woman and child like north korea!

In full honestly, I'm kind of mixed. I'm not sexist (if your wondering why i'm unsure), its just that during the 2 world wars, women usually worked in the factories that produced everything from bullets to guns. Then again if we draft women we could keep some men and some women who work together in the factories while the rest die in some foreign battlefield... Yeah I guess let women be drafted if a war breaks out and gets too severe to handle with volunteers.
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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:23 pm

New haven america wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:If the people dont join the army

Yet again, The US has the strongest(Volunteer) military on the planet.

We're not getting overrun anytime soon.

Not anytime soon,but it is possable
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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 pm

It is also a balanceing system because if all men die,the country is dead,if all woman is dead,the country is dead,we need to balance between man and woman.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yet again, The US has the strongest(Volunteer) military on the planet.

We're not getting overrun anytime soon.

Not anytime soon,but it is possable


It is not possible at all.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:26 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Not anytime soon,but it is possable


It is not possible at all.

Tell me a empire or a country that never collasped in 1000 years,thats why china and the romans always fell and get replaced
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:27 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It is not possible at all.

Tell me a empire or a country that never collasped


British/Britain.

However that's not the point. The US is the single-most powerful nation on the planet. For now, it's impossible that we'd be overwhelmed.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:29 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Tell me a empire or a country that never collasped


British/Britain.

However that's not the point. The US is the single-most powerful nation on the planet. For now, it's impossible that we'd be overwhelmed.
And how long have they lasted?(1497-1997)
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:30 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
It is not possible at all.

Tell me a empire or a country that never collasped in 1000 years


China, Egypt, Persia/Iran, Greece, France, Norway, Sweden, England, Iceland, Scotland, Hungary, Denmark, Japan, and more.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:35 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Tell me a empire or a country that never collasped in 1000 years


China, Egypt, Persia/Iran, Greece, France, Norway, Sweden, England, Iceland, Scotland, Hungary, Denmark, Japan, and more.

China had dynasties,Egypt also had different dynasties,Persia,greece,france,never lasted long and they got conquered or switched into a republic norway and sweden didnt last that long,England had a civil war,scotland unioned,hungary unioned not long,norway threw denmark away and japan had changed into the western style nation
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:39 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Afro-Euasia wrote:Then let the usa get runed over by china,russia or the DPRK,Even switerland has military,and they have no use for it,its because its a defence.


No, our voluntary military alone could fend of any threat. Invasion of the mainland US is absolutely futile.


:palm:

And if/when the Third World War begins and we can't, we'll have to either go to the draft or be destroyed. I'd rather be drafted and be free after the war, than not be drafted and live in a ruined country, completely razed by war, and without any of the basics of a civilized society. I don't know about you, but I do not want to live in a place like Great Depression Germany meets Post-Civil War South.

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Postby Afro-Euasia » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:40 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
No, our voluntary military alone could fend of any threat. Invasion of the mainland US is absolutely futile.


:palm:

And if/when the Third World War begins and we can't, we'll have to either go to the draft or be destroyed. I'd rather be drafted and be free after the war, than not be drafted and live in a ruined country, completely razed by war, and without any of the basics of a civilized society. I don't know about you, but I do not want to live in a place like Great Depression Germany meets Post-Civil War South.

Agreeded,you got the point
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:43 pm

Afro-Euasia wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
China, Egypt, Persia/Iran, Greece, France, Norway, Sweden, England, Iceland, Scotland, Hungary, Denmark, Japan, and more.

China had dynasties,Egypt also had different dynasties,Persia,greece,france,never lasted long and they got conquered or switched into a republic norway and sweden didnt last that long,England had a civil war,scotland unioned,hungary unioned not long,norway threw denmark away and japan had changed into the western style nation


They literally are the countries that lasted more then a thousand years.

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Pandeeria wrote:
No, our voluntary military alone could fend of any threat. Invasion of the mainland US is absolutely futile.


:palm:

And if/when the Third World War begins and we can't, we'll have to either go to the draft or be destroyed. I'd rather be drafted and be free after the war, than not be drafted and live in a ruined country, completely razed by war, and without any of the basics of a civilized society. I don't know about you, but I do not want to live in a place like Great Depression Germany meets Post-Civil War South.


The Third World War won't happen, and even if it did, we'd be ready.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:47 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
No, our voluntary military alone could fend of any threat. Invasion of the mainland US is absolutely futile.


:palm:

And if/when the Third World War begins and we can't, we'll have to either go to the draft or be destroyed. I'd rather be drafted and be free after the war, than not be drafted and live in a ruined country, completely razed by war, and without any of the basics of a civilized society. I don't know about you, but I do not want to live in a place like Great Depression Germany meets Post-Civil War South.

If WWIII happens, America has enough allies that a draft wouldn't be needed.
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