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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Othelos wrote:I think that human males are the only mammals to not have a penile bone (although, I could be wrong).


Because we are superior

Depends which human we're comparing to.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Othelos wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Humans already do pretty well by primate standards.

I think that human males are the only mammals to not have a penile bone (although, I could be wrong).

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Oh, when you said religion, I thought you meant Judaism (pre 0 BC) or Christianity (post 30 AD).


Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:08 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word

:meh:
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:08 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:08 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Real shocker. That is, if you can bother yourself to open a book other than the Bible.


Oh, when you said religion, I thought you meant Judaism (pre 0 BC) or Christianity (post 30 AD).


Because Judaism and Christianity are the only "religion" around, everyone was atheist prior to the introduction of the two.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:08 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_a ... t_creation
Source: Reason.

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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:09 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word

you know that evolution is observable, right? To not believe in it is to deny reality.

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Postby South Pacific Republic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Please

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_religion

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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Evolution is certainly fact. Ironically, however, many people who claim that they agree with evolution often deny basic tenets of it and make absurd claims about it, akin to creationists.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word

Judaism is not the first religion. Middle Paleolithic societies such as Neanderthal societies practiced the earliest form of totemism or animal worship. Intentional burial, particularly with grave goods, may be one of the earliest detectable forms of religious practice. Burial practices are much older than Judaism. Even in the Bible, the early biblical figures did not practice Judaism. There is even evidence that early biblical figures were polytheistic.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:11 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.


Do you have any evidence for this?
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:11 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Religion existed before Judaism bud. Do you have any evidence for creationism yet?


The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word


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Judaism.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:11 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.

Evidence for the flood besides your book? No? Too bad.

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:12 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.


And Father Abraham came out of Sumeria, so, even according to the bible, Judaism is not the first religion.

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Postby Our Governator » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:12 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
The first religion: Judaism
Source: God's word


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Judaism.

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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:13 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_religion

Quit being ignorant.


Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.

It was much more than 4000 years ago, and Sumerian religion is still older than Judaism. Neanderthals even had religious practices, which are much older than Judaism and Sumerian Religion.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:17 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Sumerian religion started up around the tower of Babel after Noah's flood, about 4000 years ago.


Do you have any evidence for this?


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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:18 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Do you have any evidence for this?


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Considering all actual evidence shows the very opposite, the bible can safely be disregarded.
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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:18 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Do you have any evidence for this?


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Biased source. Try again.
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Postby Oceanic Vakiadia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:18 pm

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Is this satire?
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:18 pm

Geilinor wrote:Given the evidence, evolution is the best conclusion we have. Creationism falls flat once you take out the assumption that God exists.

^This.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:19 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Do you have any evidence for this?


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Give me some real evidence.
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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:19 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Do you have any evidence for this?


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Evolution is observable

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