Evolution (and abiongenesis, Cosmology, etc) vs Creationism

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

That's because most of the church is apostate, and all the theological bickering is causing us to shoot at our own castle, letting the secularists gain victory over us. They'll want to ban Christianity and creationism in a few years, I'm assuming. Those secularists...

No that's where you're wrong. Christianity will never be banned, especially in the US, as there are more Christians than Atheists in the US, and the world.

As the "tolerant" secularists wrote in a humanist magazine,

I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level—preschool, daycare, or large state university. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent with its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of “love thy neighbor” will finally be achieved.

Then perhaps we will be able to say with Tom Paine that “the world is my country, all [hu]mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.” It will undoubtedly be a long, arduous struggle replete with much sorrow and many tears, but humanism will emerge triumphant. It must if the family of humankind is to survive.

[South Pacific Republic]

Last time I checked, you can't ban a religion in the US due to the First Amendment

[Kelinfort]

I'm a Christian and believe in secularist morality, what's your point?

Secularism: enforcing the religion of death (evolution), allowing the silent holocaust of babies, encouraging pornography and other corruptions...

Christianity and secularist morality (the lack thereof, really) don't go hand in hand

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

[Kelinfort]

No that's where you're wrong. Christianity will never be banned, especially in the US, as there are more Christians than Atheists in the US, and the world.

As the "tolerant" secularists wrote in a humanist magazine,

I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level—preschool, daycare, or large state university. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent with its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of “love thy neighbor” will finally be achieved.

Then perhaps we will be able to say with Tom Paine that “the world is my country, all [hu]mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.” It will undoubtedly be a long, arduous struggle replete with much sorrow and many tears, but humanism will emerge triumphant. It must if the family of humankind is to survive.

Love thy Neighbor.

That's not evil at all.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Secularism: enforcing the religion of death (evolution), allowing the silent holocaust of babies, encouraging pornography and other corruptions...

Christianity and secularist morality (the lack thereof, really) don't go hand in hand

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Last time I checked, you can't ban a religion in the US due to the First Amendment

Exactly. The first amendment would have to repealed before that could happen and frankly, that isn't going to happen.

[The Union of the West]

Nine pages in and we've already stopped talking about evolution vs. creationism.

[Asyir]

Secularism: enforcing the religion of death (evolution), allowing the silent holocaust of babies, encouraging pornography and other corruptions...

Christianity and secularist morality (the lack thereof, really) don't go hand in hand

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

Abortion is a touchy topic. I feel it's morally wrong past a certain stage on development, but otherwise I don't care. I would rather have unwanted fetuses die, then have them grow up in unwanted households, where they havea chance of growing up to become criminals.

[Kelinfort]

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

Which brings up the question of why god wouldn't let us do it. Seriously, why not?

[MERIZoC]

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

You just haven't tried it yet.

[Great Kleomentia]

I can see why you'd be against abortion, but evolution doesn't equate death. Social Darwinism isn't evolution.

Secondly, what do you have against porn? God must really like screwing with us if he gets to watch us screw, but we can't watch others screw.

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

Sin is based on morality, morality is nothing but popular opinion. Hence sin doesn't exist. Try again.

[Huntertopia]

Actually everyone has the same evidence, it depends on how you interpret it.

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Stop saying that. It's wrong. If we have the same evidence, how come creationists simply dismiss the mountains of evidence for evolution and find weak and unfounded reasons to not trust it? i.e. the mountains of fossils we've collected to confirm human evolution

And how can you be so sure that your God's truth are the ones built on pillars of sand? Gods come and go. Your word won't stay forever. How do you know your religion's morals won't disappear with it?

[Neutraligon]

No that's where you're wrong. Christianity will never be banned, especially in the US, as there are more Christians than Atheists in the US, and the world.

As the "tolerant" secularists wrote in a humanist magazine,

I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level—preschool, daycare, or large state university. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent with its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of “love thy neighbor” will finally be achieved.

Then perhaps we will be able to say with Tom Paine that “the world is my country, all [hu]mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.” It will undoubtedly be a long, arduous struggle replete with much sorrow and many tears, but humanism will emerge triumphant. It must if the family of humankind is to survive.

Please source exactly were this came from, and why I should care about it. This really looks to me like a strawman of the position. Second, what does this have to do with the topic?

[Ximea]

No that's where you're wrong. Christianity will never be banned, especially in the US, as there are more Christians than Atheists in the US, and the world.

As the "tolerant" secularists wrote in a humanist magazine,

I am convinced that the battle for humankind’s future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: a religion of humanity that recognizes and respects the spark of what theologians call divinity in every human being. These teachers must embody the same selfless dedication as the most rabid fundamentalist preachers, for they will be ministers of another sort, utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to convey humanist values in whatever subject they teach, regardless of the educational level—preschool, daycare, or large state university. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism, resplendent with its promise of a world in which the never-realized Christian ideal of “love thy neighbor” will finally be achieved.

Then perhaps we will be able to say with Tom Paine that “the world is my country, all [hu]mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.” It will undoubtedly be a long, arduous struggle replete with much sorrow and many tears, but humanism will emerge triumphant. It must if the family of humankind is to survive.

First of all, one person writing in a magazine does not speak for everyone. If he did, well, there would be plenty of unsavory statements that I could put in your mouth.

Second, provide a source so we can check the context ourselves.

[Kelinfort]

Take a good long look.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Love thy Neighbor.

That's not evil at all.

The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism

This is evil, very much so.

[South Pacific Republic]

Last time I checked, you can't ban a religion in the US due to the First Amendment

Exactly. The first amendment would have to repealed before that could happen and frankly, that isn't going to happen.

We all know why the Eighteenth Amendment was repealed

[Washington Resistance Army]

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

Which brings up the question of why god wouldn't let us do it. Seriously, why not?

Because Yahweh is a dick.

[Avenio]

Answers In Genesis evidently has a 'cheapest hire' policy when it comes to graphic artists.

What really ticks me off, is that they took the time to color in the mustache, but not the hair.

Hey now, I'm sure the office intern did his very best. Learning Adobe Illustrator on your 10-minute Coffee Break For Jesus is challenging enough.

[Great Kleomentia]

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

Which brings up the question of why god wouldn't let us do it. Seriously, why not?

Because he is a sadistic fellow, naturally.

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

You just haven't tried it yet.

Or he walked in on the wrong pair of midgets.

[Kelinfort]

Love thy Neighbor.

That's not evil at all.

The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism

This is evil, very much so.

And that faith is...

Love thy Neighbor.

How is that a bad thing?

[Great Kleomentia]

What really ticks me off, is that they took the time to color in the mustache, but not the hair.

Hey now, I'm sure the office intern did his very best. Learning Adobe Illustrator on your 10-minute Coffee Break For Jesus is challenging enough.

DO IT FOR JESUS!
That's gotta be some good motivation right there.

[The Union of the West]

Love thy Neighbor.

That's not evil at all.

The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new—the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with all its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism

This is evil, very much so.

Basically what it's saying is that Christianity shouldn't be enforced in the classroom. What's so horrible about that?

[MERIZoC]

Which brings up the question of why god wouldn't let us do it. Seriously, why not?

Because Yahweh is a dick.

Should've picked a god of love to be your God, instead.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Pornography is a perversion, even the very 'basic' stuff like swimsuits. It's a sin. And we need to stop with the whole 'because God can do it, we can too' argument, because it's the same argument Satan used to tempt Adam and Eve in Genesis 3:5.

Which brings up the question of why god wouldn't let us do it. Seriously, why not?

Perhaps the obvious fact that pornography becomes an addiction, and is also a sort of 'gateway drug' to the more perverse and disgusting, like furry fetishes, cannibal fetishes...and that goes on to child pornography, and that goes on to rape, and murder...

People will deny it, but pornography is very serious. Obviously if someone starts it, they're going to want something more and more sexy and 'exciting' every time. Eventually 'sexy and exciting' means rape and murder.