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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:42 pm

The Union of the West wrote:The only part of Evolution that doesn't make sense is abiogenesis. How does that happen? Could someone enlighten me?


abiogenesis and evolution are two different areas of science. Right now abiogenesis is basically chemistry.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:42 pm

Huntertopia wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Perhaps the obvious fact that pornography becomes an addiction, and is also a sort of 'gateway drug' to the more perverse and disgusting, like furry fetishes, cannibal fetishes...and that goes on to child pornography, and that goes on to rape, and murder...

People will deny it, but pornography is very serious. Obviously if someone starts it, they're going to want something more and more sexy and 'exciting' every time. Eventually 'sexy and exciting' means rape and murder.

First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Let's try to bring that back within topic- the ability to reproduce is a very important part of the theory of natural selection.

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Postby Asyir » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:42 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
He who looks at another body with lust has committed rape in his heart-

Somewhere in the Bible, probably.

And nowhere near true.

I believe the verse is: He who looks at another body with lustful intentions has committed adultery in his heart. Now back to the topic at hand...
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Huntertopia wrote:First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Let's try to bring that back within topic- the ability to reproduce is a very important part of the theory of natural selection.

It is probably the most important part.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Perhaps the obvious fact that pornography becomes an addiction, and is also a sort of 'gateway drug' to the more perverse and disgusting, like furry fetishes, cannibal fetishes...and that goes on to child pornography, and that goes on to rape, and murder...

People will deny it, but pornography is very serious. Obviously if someone starts it, they're going to want something more and more sexy and 'exciting' every time. Eventually 'sexy and exciting' means rape and murder.

Not going to go off topic, but that's possible with anything, including religion.


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Nationes Pii Redivivi wrote:
Let's try to bring that back within topic- the ability to reproduce is a very important part of the theory of natural selection.

It is probably the most important part.


And the funnest.
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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
South Pacific Republic wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Too much information :blink:

Not any different than saying that i'm listening to techno for most of my life. I haven't really given any explicit details.
Merizoc wrote: :? Well, personally, I wouldn't fap to murder.

Fapping is murder! Cut off your hands!

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Love thy Neighbor.

That's not evil at all.


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This is evil, very much so.

How is loving your neighbor against what your creator wants? Or is he just that much of a jerk that he only cares that people believe he exists?

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:43 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Not going to go off topic, but that's possible with anything, including religion.


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Unfunny and pointless. But we digress.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:44 pm

I SAID ENOUGH. Stick to the topic of the thread.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:44 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Not going to go off topic, but that's possible with anything, including religion.


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Pretty much every piece of religious art before 0 CE disagrees.

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Postby South Pacific Republic » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:44 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Not going to go off topic, but that's possible with anything, including religion.


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Technically, east and west can be right next to each other

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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:44 pm

Asyir wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:And nowhere near true.

I believe the verse is: He who looks at another body with lustful intentions has committed adultery in his heart. Now back to the topic at hand...


Right, Actual Science v. Creation Science.

Wasn't there a professor guy who had to be disowned by his own school because he was so very wrong about Irreducable Complexity of whatever nonsense it was?

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:44 pm

Huntertopia wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Perhaps the obvious fact that pornography becomes an addiction, and is also a sort of 'gateway drug' to the more perverse and disgusting, like furry fetishes, cannibal fetishes...and that goes on to child pornography, and that goes on to rape, and murder...

People will deny it, but pornography is very serious. Obviously if someone starts it, they're going to want something more and more sexy and 'exciting' every time. Eventually 'sexy and exciting' means rape and murder.

First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Don't associate me with any of that stuff, I have nothing to do with it. God's intention to be fruitful and multiply is for inside of marriage. Humans are not animals, they are superior (far superior). Furthermore, humans are not naturally promiscuous. Promiscuity is a by product of our hedonistic culture.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:45 pm

Huntertopia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Not any different than saying that i'm listening to techno for most of my life. I haven't really given any explicit details.

Fapping is murder! Cut off your hands!

Masturbation is the Devil's Typewriter!

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Merizoc wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
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Pretty much every piece of religious art before 0 CE disagrees.

Not to mention that he clearly ignores basic geography.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:46 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Huntertopia wrote:First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Don't associate me with any of that stuff, I have nothing to do with it. God's intention to be fruitful and multiply is for inside of marriage. Humans are not animals, they are superior (far superior). Furthermore, humans are not naturally promiscuous. Promiscuity is a by product of our hedonistic culture.


We're only superior in knowledge, and that's only because we sinned. Checkmate creationism.
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:46 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Not going to go off topic, but that's possible with anything, including religion.


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A meme that does not make any sense.

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:46 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
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Pretty much every piece of religious art before 0 CE disagrees.


Can you source that, or are you just going to threadjack?
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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:46 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:(Image)

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Oh boy I lub maymays xdddd

Didn't David sleep around with some women that were married? Lot had a drunken stupor with his two daughters. Solomon had 700 wives and concubines.
Religion and sex about as far apart as Ted Haggard and the male-on-male sex line.
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Huntertopia wrote:And my purpose is to spread euphoria throughout the world, as well as eliminate the evils of the friendzone.

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:46 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Huntertopia wrote:First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Don't associate me with any of that stuff, I have nothing to do with it. God's intention to be fruitful and multiply is for inside of marriage. Humans are not animals, they are superior (far superior). Furthermore, humans are not naturally promiscuous. Promiscuity is a by product of our hedonistic culture.

Yeah, this all benevolent God created humans and gave them all these urges that he then proclaimed sinful. Then he created the constitution of marriage just for the lulz of it. You seem like you haven't really thought about God at all.
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Postby Ximea » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:48 pm

Kelinfort wrote:http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

I should just leave now.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:49 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Pretty much every piece of religious art before 0 CE disagrees.


Can you source that, or are you just going to threadjack?

:rofl: I'm the thread jacker. :rofl:

I would, but then I'd go the way of Thafoo. :p

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:49 pm

Ximea wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

I should just leave now.

And miss the show?

Oh, what the hell?

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Postby Huntertopia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:50 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Huntertopia wrote:First off, anything can be an addiction. People can be addicted to eating laundry detergent, for fuck's sake.
Second off, humans are naturally promiscuous animals. That's the main reason there are over 7 billion of us on this planet. Besides, didn't God tell us to be fruitful and multiply? How dare you try to inhibit the Word of God!
Third off, those types of fetishes aren't quite as prevalent as you're making them out to be, and the slope isn't that slippery. But hey, if that stuff is what gets ya off, fine by me; we've all got our kinks. :P


Don't associate me with any of that stuff, I have nothing to do with it. God's intention to be fruitful and multiply is for inside of marriage. Humans are not animals, they are superior (far superior). Furthermore, humans are not naturally promiscuous. Promiscuity is a by product of our hedonistic culture.

Just jokes, man. Don't be too upset about them. :)
I didn't think Adam and Eve were married. They didn't state that in the Bible. Was it because they were the first ones there? What kind of an excuse in that?
Humans are animals. We are just as violent, caring, altruistic, and opportunistic as our primate cousins and nearly every other animal on the planet. This isn't due to sin, this is due to the very nature of animal kind.
Promiscuity is a by-product of our needs to reproduce.
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*tips fedora*

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