Can Rand Paul beat Hillary?

[Farnhamia]

Why? It is costing taxpayers a fortune. We should give them a quick military trial in Afghanistan and punish them there (if they are guilty). Bullet to the head or hanging or amputation, these are much cheaper methods than detention in Guantanamo. I doubt the Taliban would be nice to American soldiers they catch during battle. At least we will be quick about it and we will even give them a trial (something I doubt the Taliban would do).

We can use the prisoners to get information on other terrorists, duh.

We can do that here in the US.

And enough with the Bush/Obama digression.

[Freiheit Reich]

You just want to keep focusing on this black thing, don't you?

If he was white would as many people hate him so much?

They would hate him more if he was 100% white (he is 50% white, people seem to forget this). Many people are scared about being called racist if they dare to criticize Barak Hussein Obama.

[Freiheit Reich]

If he was white would as many people hate him so much?

They wouldn't have as much fodder to throw at him, for one. No "he's a Muslim!" or "he must be born in Kenya!"

Plenty of whites are Muslim, look at Chechens and Bosnians, his name, his positive Islamic comments, and bowing to the Saudi king make people question his religion.

[Geilinor]

Perhaps but we were told that Saddam was a direct menace to the United States. He wasn't. No one disputes that he was a tyrant and a murderer. He was thoroughly under the thumb of the US and the coalition that beat him in 1992. He was playing the only game he had, jerking around the UN nuclear inspectors. There was no reason to invade Iraq. Saddam hated al-Qaeda and the jihadists as much as we do because he was only religious when it suited him and they knew it. There was no way Bin Laden and Saddam were going to be buddies or work together.

You forget one crucial detail, and that is many of the world's intelligence agencies agreed Saddam had, or was getting extremely close to having, WMDs.

The US sold Iraq some of those materials during the Iran-Iraq War. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#Chemical_and_biological_exports

[Freiheit Reich]

Yes... they would.

Well that's just ridiculous. Whatever you may think about Obama, you can't deny that there are people who just hate black people, and thus hate Obama more than they would hate a white president who did the exact same things.

There are also plenty of people that hate whites, including many liberal whites that have white guilt. Voting for Obama was a great way to apologize for slavery in the USA.

[Farnhamia]

The topic is "Can Rand Paul Beat Hillary?" not the merits and faults of Presidents Bush and Obama. Five minute break while we collect our thoughts and get ready to talk about that.

[Murkwood]

The consensus seems to be no.

[Arkolon]

It doesn't look likely.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Well that's just ridiculous. Whatever you may think about Obama, you can't deny that there are people who just hate black people, and thus hate Obama more than they would hate a white president who did the exact same things.

There are also plenty of people that hate whites, including many liberal whites that have white guilt. Voting for Obama was a great way to apologize for slavery in the USA.

Or to show your support for the policies proposed by President Barack Obama.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

The topic is "Can Rand Paul Beat Hillary?" not the merits and faults of Presidents Bush and Obama. Five minute break while we collect our thoughts and get ready to talk about that.

Bush's and Obama's presidency serve as a very important context for most voters, especially ones like us, who grew up during the Bush Era.

[Murkwood]

There are also plenty of people that hate whites, including many liberal whites that have white guilt. Voting for Obama was a great way to apologize for slavery in the USA.

Or to show your support for the policies proposed by President Barack Obama.

Please, stay on topic.

[Farnhamia]

The topic is "Can Rand Paul Beat Hillary?" not the merits and faults of Presidents Bush and Obama. Five minute break while we collect our thoughts and get ready to talk about that.

Bush's and Obama's presidency serve as a very important context for most voters, especially ones like us, who grew up during the Bush Era.

Perhaps but there hasn't been a mention of Senator Paul or former Secretary Clinton for pages. Relate the Bush/Obama posts to them and you're fine.

[Leetmerica]

Well, maybe in a fistfight...

[Freiheit Reich]

Hillary will get 90% of the female vote-this is enough to propel her to an easy win.

Rand Paul is against abortion (something I can go either way on). This will cost him many female votes. The fact he is a man and Hillary is a woman will cost him most of the remaining female votes.

Hopefully the republicans won't be foolish enough to choose a Sarah Palin vs. Hillary Clinton election as a way to win the female vote though.

[Spoder]

Just don't let Hillary get elected.

She's almost Mr. Obama's final form.

[Farnhamia]

Hillary will get 90% of the female vote-this is enough to propel her to an easy win.

Rand Paul is against abortion (something I can go either way on). This will cost him many female votes. The fact he is a man and Hillary is a woman will cost him most of the remaining female votes.

Hopefully the republicans won't be foolish enough to choose a Sarah Palin vs. Hillary Clinton election as a way to win the female vote though.

Winning the female vote is the only reason we know who Sarah Palin is. The McCain people somehow thought that Hillary's supporters would abandon Obama is they put a woman on the ticket with McCain.

[Kelinfort]

Just don't let Hillary get elected.

She's almost Mr. Obama's final form.

She's probably right of Obama.

[Murkwood]

Just don't let Hillary get elected.

She's almost Mr. Obama's final form.

She's Obama with a vagina, a light hue on her epidermis, and a somewhat more interventionist ideology.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Hillary will get 90% of the female vote-this is enough to propel her to an easy win.

Rand Paul is against abortion (something I can go either way on). This will cost him many female votes. The fact he is a man and Hillary is a woman will cost him most of the remaining female votes.

Hopefully the republicans won't be foolish enough to choose a Sarah Palin vs. Hillary Clinton election as a way to win the female vote though.

Women don't vote for women because they share a common gender.

[Bazrasha]

I'm really not thrilled out a Clinton presidency but I'm not looking forward to a Rand one ether. If this were to be a ticket I would most definitely cast my vote for a third party. Probably Jistice but is have a much easier time voting for a true libertarian like Gary Johnson then a paleoconservative libertarian wannabe like Rand.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Just don't let Hillary get elected.

She's almost Mr. Obama's final form.

She's probably right of Obama.

Obama's already pretty right...so where does that put her?

[Murkwood]

She's probably right of Obama.

Obama's already pretty right...so where does that put her?

*laughs*

Good joke.

[Indian Empire]

Yes, since there is no Mitt Romney.

[Kelinfort]

She's probably right of Obama.

Obama's already pretty right...so where does that put her?

Moderate Democrat, to the right of the Modern Dems, so probably centre right-ish. Obama is already centre to centre right so...

[Freiheit Reich]

Hillary will get 90% of the female vote-this is enough to propel her to an easy win.

Rand Paul is against abortion (something I can go either way on). This will cost him many female votes. The fact he is a man and Hillary is a woman will cost him most of the remaining female votes.

Hopefully the republicans won't be foolish enough to choose a Sarah Palin vs. Hillary Clinton election as a way to win the female vote though.

Winning the female vote is the only reason we know who Sarah Palin is. The McCain people somehow thought that Hillary's supporters would abandon Obama is they put a woman on the ticket with McCain.

I thought it was because Johnny Mac was attracted to Palin and imagined late night sessions at the Oval Office with her. He has a history of cheating and it seemed more logical than any other reason I could think of. For a man of his age, Palin is very attractive. Your idea is the safer one to make public though.

Perhaps Rand Paul could place a minority on the ticket as a way to show republicans are not just for whites. Dr. Walter Williams (respected African-American economist) would be a possible choice if he wanted to accept it. This could help him get the minority vote. I can't think of any good female choices though.