On the genetic engineering of babies, and IVF

[Shnercropolis]

I've explained before that I don't apply this logic to most things.

So, you're saying it isn't so much that you are operating on a principle of people shouldn't have anything unless everyone can afford it as you are operating on a principle of what people should be permitted to have should be based on your whim

read the sig.

[WestRedMaple]

Genetic engineering doesn't purchase you life. You ALREADY have life.

suppose your child has a preventable genetic disease which will kill them within 6 months. Curing it costs more than you could possibly pay. That's where life could be bought.

No, it isn't. They already have life. Life is not something you can purchase. Medical care is not the same thing as life.

[Grinning Dragon]

Genetic engineering doesn't purchase you life. You ALREADY have life.

suppose your child has a preventable genetic disease which will kill them within 6 months. Curing it costs more than you could possibly pay. That's where life could be bought.

If it was preventable why would the child get it, it was preventable. Maybe an incurable genetic disease is what you meant?

[WestRedMaple]

So, you're saying it isn't so much that you are operating on a principle of people shouldn't have anything unless everyone can afford it as you are operating on a principle of what people should be permitted to have should be based on your whim

read the sig.

You're free to continue avoiding the question, and I am free to continue asking it.

[Shnercropolis]

suppose your child has a preventable genetic disease which will kill them within 6 months. Curing it costs more than you could possibly pay. That's where life could be bought.

If it was preventable why would the child get it, it was preventable. Maybe an incurable genetic disease is what you meant?

no, because then it wouldn't be curable and the analogy breaks down.
I guess "curable" is the word I meant.

[Shnercropolis]

read the sig.

You're free to continue avoiding the question, and I am free to continue asking it.

indeed.

[Great Kleomentia]

Don't attempt to twist the definition of logic with pseudo-philosophy.

how on blurf do you think logic is defined? "the mindset with swhich to approach all problems"? If everyone approached every problem in the exact same way every time, we'd be in a sorry mess.

Your strawman seems to be catching fire. You can't apply a rule in only one specter of a field. What you are stating is the equivalent of saying that humans die after being decapitated but only when you think that's ok.

[Esternial]

I reckon tampering with genes that have a significant effect on a child's mental development may raises valid questions regarding ethics.

Though a degree of 'designer' genetic engineering, mostly applying to physical properties, is not impossible.

[The Grey Wolf]

Genetic Engineering of Babies is ok if it's safe and reasonable. For instance if your baby is going to be born with a mental or physical disability, it would be perfectly fine to have that fixed. However changing trivial things such as hair color and such I'm not sure about.

Yeah, I don't think we should be messing with our genetics too much. Sounds ridiculous, but I just think this wouldn't end well and we should leave genetics up to evolution. Using it to get rid of mental or physical disabilities sounds fine though. Makes things easier for everyone.

[Pandeeria]

So, you're saying it isn't so much that you are operating on a principle of people shouldn't have anything unless everyone can afford it as you are operating on a principle of what people should be permitted to have should be based on your whim

read the sig.

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

[Great Kleomentia]

read the sig.

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

Because he can.

[Shnercropolis]

read the sig.

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

If nobody takes me seriously then they're missing out on a lot.
I hold that belief because everyone secretly does.

[Gaiserin]

Though a degree of 'designer' genetic engineering, mostly applying to physical properties, is not impossible.

So no cat girls then?
Bollocks.

[Great Kleomentia]

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

If nobody takes me seriously then they're missing out on a lot.
I hold that belief because everyone secretly does.

[Shnercropolis]

If nobody takes me seriously then they're missing out on a lot.
I hold that belief because everyone secretly does.

O rly? when's the last time you questioned your fundamental beliefs of right and wrong?

[Pandeeria]

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

If nobody takes me seriously then they're missing out on a lot.
I hold that belief because everyone secretly does.

No, not everyone hold that belief. You should at least prove that everyone has said belief.

[Great Kleomentia]

O rly? when's the last time you questioned your fundamental beliefs of right and wrong?

I do that pretty much every single day. You on the other hand seem to be stuck in your mud-pool of hypocrisy and ignorance.

[Shnercropolis]

If nobody takes me seriously then they're missing out on a lot.
I hold that belief because everyone secretly does.

No, not everyone hold that belief. You should at least prove that everyone has said belief.

Improvable. Just a speculation, and it aligns with most behaviour I've witnessed.

[Shnercropolis]

O rly? when's the last time you questioned your fundamental beliefs of right and wrong?

I do that pretty much every single day. You on the other hand seem to be stuck in your mud-pool of hypocrisy and ignorance.

Wow, you're a rare exception among people. You ought to be a professional philosopher.

[The Grey Wolf]

Though a degree of 'designer' genetic engineering, mostly applying to physical properties, is not impossible.

So no cat girls then?
Bollocks.

Way to go crushing my dreams.

[WestRedMaple]

No one should then take you seriously.

Also, why do you hold that belief?

Because he can.

Not really. If your ability to do something was the reason for doing it, then you'd get locked in a loop once you started considering two mutually exclusive options and never break free.

Because I/she/he/they/we can do it is just an attempt to avoid answering

[Great Kleomentia]

I do that pretty much every single day. You on the other hand seem to be stuck in your mud-pool of hypocrisy and ignorance.

Wow, you're a rare exception among people. You ought to be a professional philosopher.

Philosophy shouldn't be made into a job. Philosophy is something that everyone should inspect out of interest. But we digress.

[Gaiserin]

So no cat girls then?
Bollocks.

Way to go crushing my dreams.

There's still hope..Cosmetic surgery, maybe?

/Puts cat ears on you.
( •̀ω•́ )

[Great Kleomentia]

Because he can.

Not really. If your ability to do something was the reason for doing it, then you'd get locked in a loop once you started considering two mutually exclusive options and never break free.

Because I/she/he/they/we can do it is just an attempt to avoid answering

That's exactly what's happening here.

[Shnercropolis]

Wow, you're a rare exception among people. You ought to be a professional philosopher.

Philosophy shouldn't be made into a job. Philosophy is something that everyone should inspect out of interest. But we digress.

True.
I've put my 3 cents in, I'm out.