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by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:12 pm
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:Othelos wrote:That's the thing, though - she isn't 'actually a guy'. And if she looks like a girl, why does it matter?
What if she looks like a dog ? or a car ? what if she IS a car ? Does it really matter what you fall in love with ?
Right?
Wrong. Does it really matter if all things begin to lose meaning and identity now ? YES, it bloody does. Men are men and girls are girls. Period.
no pun intended

by Rastynhaven » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:12 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Liriena wrote:Or it's just a transsexual woman keeping her medical history to herself, as is her right. Not all transsexual women are comfortable disclosing the gender they were designated at birth, and for good reasons. Even to this day transgender women, particularly transgender women of colour, are particularly vulnerable to hate crimes, and "trans panic" defenses are still used.
Than the transsexual shouldn't have any intimate relationships except with homosexuals.

by Rastynhaven » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:13 pm

by Freiheit Reich » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:13 pm
Rastynhaven wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:Because a heterosexual male isn't generally interested in transsexuals. The thought of the girl you just slept with being actually a guy is something that can really mess your head up.
Or maybe value her as a person and how she's a girl now instead of what she was born as?
As a heterosexual teenage girl, I would not care if my boyfriend or the guy I sleep with was pre-op FtM.

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:14 pm


by Freiheit Reich » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:15 pm
Great Kleomentia wrote:Liriena wrote:Or it's just a transsexual woman keeping her medical history to herself, as is her right. Not all transsexual women are comfortable disclosing the gender they were designated at birth, and for good reasons. Even to this day transgender women, particularly transgender women of colour, are particularly vulnerable to hate crimes, and "trans panic" defenses are still used.
I reckon it's something you should disclose when you are about to engage in intercourse.

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:15 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Rastynhaven wrote:
Or maybe value her as a person and how she's a girl now instead of what she was born as?
As a heterosexual teenage girl, I would not care if my boyfriend or the guy I sleep with was pre-op FtM.
Society considers it more acceptable for women to have homosexual relations than men. Women are probably more likely to be open-minded about this. For many men it would be depressing and it wouldn't surprise me if some even commit suicide and/or murder as a result of the deception.

by Rastynhaven » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:16 pm
Othelos wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Society considers it more acceptable for women to have homosexual relations than men. Women are probably more likely to be open-minded about this. For many men it would be depressing and it wouldn't surprise me if some even commit suicide and/or murder as a result of the deception.
That is such an idiotic reason to commit suicide or murder...

by Freiheit Reich » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:16 pm
Othelos wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:Because a heterosexual male isn't generally interested in transsexuals. The thought of the girl you just slept with being actually a guy is something that can really mess your head up.
That's the thing, though - she isn't 'actually a guy'. And if she looks like a girl, why does it matter?

by Great Kleomentia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:16 pm

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:16 pm
Freiheit Reich wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:I reckon it's something you should disclose when you are about to engage in intercourse.
Before kissing would be a better time or even before the first date (so the guy won't have to waste money or time for the date with someone that don't want to be with).

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:17 pm

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:17 pm
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by The Sanguinian Islands » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:18 pm

by Great Kleomentia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:18 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I have no problem with people pursuing what they need to make them happy (as long as it harms no one). Trangender people are pursuing that which they need to make themselves happy, which harms no one. I have no problem with them. They're people, same as me, and deserve respect and the opportunity to be happy.

by Fanosolia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:19 pm

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by The Count of Monte Cristo » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:23 pm

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:23 pm

by Othelos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:24 pm
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Let me answer that.
First of all, they´re both gorgeous. It´s not like any of them is carring a "post-OP woman" sign.
Second, depends on what the man wants. He wants to marry her ? Fine. Have children of their own ? A bit more difficult. And since she´s gorgeous and probably the man isn´t supposed to know Grey´s Anatomy or be a gynecologist, she ought to be straight with vhe man and tell him about her previous condition, whav she was before she became.

by The Sanguinian Islands » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:25 pm
Othelos wrote:The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Let me answer that.
First of all, they´re both gorgeous. It´s not like any of them is carring a "post-OP woman" sign.
Second, depends on what the man wants. He wants to marry her ? Fine. Have children of their own ? A bit more difficult. And since she´s gorgeous and probably the man isn´t supposed to know Grey´s Anatomy or be a gynecologist, she ought to be straight with vhe man and tell him about her previous condition, whav she was before she became.
She can tell him whenever she wants to. He isn't entitled to know her medical history, just like she isn't entitled to his.
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