Public Opinion on Transgender Persons

[Calisu]

You just love using pointless buzzwords, don't you?

Also, considering the shitstorm was one of transphobia, the label is accurate. You can have different opinions without being transphobic.

Also, a fair many of us hate Dumblr with a passion. But keep going on with your assumptions, and don't let little things like facts get in your way.

I know that I'm right in what I'm saying because people are getting so worked up, it means that it's too close to home.
Anything-phobe is a buzzword, obvious hypocrisy.

Just keep being an ignorant bigot.

Clearly we're the ones who are wrong for not discriminating.

[Othelos]

You just love using pointless buzzwords, don't you?

Also, considering the shitstorm was one of transphobia, the label is accurate. You can have different opinions without being transphobic.

Also, a fair many of us hate Dumblr with a passion. But keep going on with your assumptions, and don't let little things like facts get in your way.

I know that I'm right in what I'm saying because people are getting so worked up, it means that it's too close to home.
Anything-phobe is a buzzword, obvious hypocrisy.

so if I said 'all christians are stupid, redneck conservatives', and people got worked up, I'd know that I was right?

[Jumalariik]

Just because I'm a protestant doesn't mean I'm conservative, I just know how tumblrites work.
What made you think I'm conservative?
Am I phobic because I pointed out the elitism of tumblrite liberals?

how is supporting the rights of transgender people snobby liberal tumblr elitism?

Just because I'm a protestant doesn't mean I'm conservative, I just know how tumblrites work.
What made you think I'm conservative?
Am I phobic because I pointed out the elitism of tumblrite liberals?

"elitism" what?

Whoever started this thread started it with the intention of hearing the opinion of people like him/her/they/it/whatever. (Oh ,look, I'm tolerant now) He/she/it/whatever was opposed to hearing opposing arguments along with the rest of the vanguard of NSG valiantly fighting off the horrible conservatives. This is elitist by definition.

[Grenartia]

You just love using pointless buzzwords, don't you?

Also, considering the shitstorm was one of transphobia, the label is accurate. You can have different opinions without being transphobic.

Also, a fair many of us hate Dumblr with a passion. But keep going on with your assumptions, and don't let little things like facts get in your way.

1. I know that I'm right in what I'm saying because people are getting so worked up, it means that it's too close to home.
2. Anything-phobe is a buzzword, obvious hypocrisy.

1. By that logic (which, coincidentally, sounds an awful lot like admission of trolling to me), we're right because you're getting so worked up and we're "hitting too close to home".

2.

I was actually referring to "liberal vanguard", and "tumblr-fascism". You should really learn to stop assuming. You know what they say about what happens when you assume.

[Jumalariik]

I know that I'm right in what I'm saying because people are getting so worked up, it means that it's too close to home.
Anything-phobe is a buzzword, obvious hypocrisy.

so if I said 'all christians are stupid, redneck conservatives', and people got worked up, I'd know that I was right?

I looked for a Mao quote, but I couldn't find it so I paraphrased it. Sorry.
If somebody finds the Mao quote that means basically this: "I know that we;re right because the reactionaries are against us," I'll give them a taco/cookie/hug/money/praise.

[Othelos]

how is supporting the rights of transgender people snobby liberal tumblr elitism?

"elitism" what?

Whoever started this thread started it with the intention of hearing the opinion of people like him/her/they/it/whatever. (Oh ,look, I'm tolerant now) He/she/it/whatever was opposed to hearing opposing arguments along with the rest of the vanguard of NSG valiantly fighting off the horrible conservatives. This is elitist by definition.

you should probably address your victim complex

[Calisu]

so if I said 'all christians are stupid, redneck conservatives', and people got worked up, I'd know that I was right?

I looked for a Mao quote, but I couldn't find it so I paraphrased it. Sorry.
If somebody finds the Mao quote that means basically this: "I know that we;re right because the reactionaries are against us," I'll give them a taco/cookie/hug/money/praise.

Mao was a mass murderer not really someone you should want to live up to.

[Jumalariik]

1. I know that I'm right in what I'm saying because people are getting so worked up, it means that it's too close to home.
2. Anything-phobe is a buzzword, obvious hypocrisy.

1. By that logic (which, coincidentally, sounds an awful lot like admission of trolling to me), we're right because you're getting so worked up and we're "hitting too close to home".

2.

I was actually referring to "liberal vanguard", and "tumblr-fascism". You should really learn to stop assuming. You know what they say about what happens when you assume.

1. Not trolling because I actually believe what I'm saying and am stating truth.
2. You were using it as a buzzword, admit it.

What happens when I assume? I know, it makes movies less interesting, but usually, I assume correctly. Unless the liberal vanguard says that they are open to disagreeing opinions, liberal vanguard, tumblr-fascism and elitism are correct words. Max and the mods own the forum, keep that in mind.

[Jumalariik]

I looked for a Mao quote, but I couldn't find it so I paraphrased it. Sorry.
If somebody finds the Mao quote that means basically this: "I know that we;re right because the reactionaries are against us," I'll give them a taco/cookie/hug/money/praise.

Mao was a mass murderer not really someone you should want to live up to.

He said clever/catchy things though. He also wrote a nice little book with a nice little cover.

[Jormengand]

Mao was a mass murderer not really someone you should want to live up to.

He said clever/catchy things though. He also wrote a nice little book with a nice little cover.

To your eternal cosmic credit, I have been known to quote Stalin, because he said one or two clever things.

But anyway, not the point. The point is that you should actually start to use evidence, rather than basing your argument solely on how much you're pissing everyone off with it.

[Jumalariik]

Whoever started this thread started it with the intention of hearing the opinion of people like him/her/they/it/whatever. (Oh ,look, I'm tolerant now) He/she/it/whatever was opposed to hearing opposing arguments along with the rest of the vanguard of NSG valiantly fighting off the horrible conservatives. This is elitist by definition.

you should probably address your victim complex

I'm not a victim. I didn't state my opinion on transgenders, y'all made a bunch of assumptions, also please explain how what you just said makes any sense, I never said myself to be a victim, instead I'm just trying to see why y'all seem not to want dialogue.

[Jormengand]

I'm not a victim. I didn't state my opinion on transgenders

Which is a pity, considering that's the entire point of this thread.

[Aravea]

I just find it a little awkward talking to them while I figure out how they want to be addressed. Basically it feels like I have to tread carefully for the first few seconds until I work what that particular person prefers to be called.

[Murkwood]

you should probably address your victim complex

I'm not a victim. I didn't state my opinion on transgenders, y'all made a bunch of assumptions, also please explain how what you just said makes any sense, I never said myself to be a victim, instead I'm just trying to see why y'all seem not to want dialogue.

I have to disagree. My opinions are usually in the minority of NSG, and sometimes, people just don't listen. But it varies from user to user. Just are extremely closed-minded elitists, but some actually like to debate. Put your opinion out there, ignore the dicks, and try and converse with those who wish to debate.

[Jumalariik]

I'm not a victim. I didn't state my opinion on transgenders

Which is a pity, considering that's the entire point of this thread.

My opinions don't seem to be welcome and you want evidence? Just go on page 5 of the thread, file with people who obviously don't want to hear opposing opinions.
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
― Noam Chomsky

[Murkwood]

Which is a pity, considering that's the entire point of this thread.

My opinions don't seem to be welcome and you want evidence? Just go on page 5 of the thread, file with people who obviously don't want to hear opposing opinions.
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
― Noam Chomsky

Mao, Chomsky, what's next? Guevara?

[Aravea]

My opinions don't seem to be welcome and you want evidence? Just go on page 5 of the thread, file with people who obviously don't want to hear opposing opinions.
“If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.”
― Noam Chomsky

Mao, Chomsky, what's next? Guevara?

No he'll quote Qadaffi next...

[Jormengand]

My opinions don't seem to be welcome

I don't care. Tell me anyway.

[Jumalariik]

I'm not a victim. I didn't state my opinion on transgenders, y'all made a bunch of assumptions, also please explain how what you just said makes any sense, I never said myself to be a victim, instead I'm just trying to see why y'all seem not to want dialogue.

I have to disagree. My opinions are usually in the minority of NSG, and sometimes, people just don't listen. But it varies from user to user. Just are extremely closed-minded elitists, but some actually like to debate. Put your opinion out there, ignore the dicks, and try and converse with those who wish to debate.

Will you not acknowledge that on NSG there is a core of elitist liberals who tend to dominate sexual orientation threads?

[Lazssia]

I have zero problems with 'em, its not really any of my business what others choose do with their bodies, so long as they aren't trying to injure themselves.

[Aravea]

My opinions don't seem to be welcome

I don't care. Tell me anyway.

Jumalrik your opinions are welcome here.

[Jumalariik]

My opinions don't seem to be welcome

I don't care. Tell me anyway.

I think transgenders should do whatever they want as long as they don't hurt anybody. As long as they don't fall into assimilationism and instead show solidarity with other put upon people, they are friends of mine.

[Murkwood]

I have to disagree. My opinions are usually in the minority of NSG, and sometimes, people just don't listen. But it varies from user to user. Just are extremely closed-minded elitists, but some actually like to debate. Put your opinion out there, ignore the dicks, and try and converse with those who wish to debate.

Will you not acknowledge that on NSG there is a core of elitist liberals who tend to dominate sexual orientation threads?

There are a few, of whom I won't name, who do frequent gender threads, and are rather elitist. But it's possible to ignore them.

[Othelos]

I have to disagree. My opinions are usually in the minority of NSG, and sometimes, people just don't listen. But it varies from user to user. Just are extremely closed-minded elitists, but some actually like to debate. Put your opinion out there, ignore the dicks, and try and converse with those who wish to debate.

Will you not acknowledge that on NSG there is a core of elitist liberals who tend to dominate sexual orientation threads?

where are you pulling 'elitist' from? that's what suggested to me that you have a victim complex.

[Jumalariik]

I don't care. Tell me anyway.

Jumalrik your opinions are welcome here.

Thanks Aravea.