Public Opinion on Transgender Persons

[Cyrisnia]

What is privilege, anyways?

[Distruzio]

What is privilege, anyways?

Damn you. Now I hear this. It's your fault.

[Captiotia]

I'm glad you have never felt oppressed due to your gender, but lots of women have. Not just "felt," but been outright visibly oppressed and exploited. Lots of minorities and women of marginalized groups, especially. WOC and trans women. Women in countries exploited by imperialism. Rape victims. Rape victims who are WOC and/or trans. Murder victims who are WOC and/or trans!
Why do you think gender exists?

what the fuck stop don't speak for us

If by "us," you mean binary women, I'm sorry, but there are arguments on the side of trans people like me which support the existence of a transmisogynistic patriarchy.
If you mean WOC, I'm very very sorry and you're right.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Respecting someone's rights is different than being sexually attracted to them.

Yeah, this is true. I find it weird to make so many generalizations and blanket statements though. Why wouldn't you date a trans person? Their gender identity or their genitals? If genitals is the issue, there are post-op trans people. Also, there are nonbinary or agender trans people, like me, who might have the genitals you'd prefer. Also, bigender trans people and more.

For me, it would depend on the individual. The only category of trans people that I can't imagine ever being attracted to, even if I was very close to them as a friend, are FtM. I'm not attracted to people who go out of their way to be masculine. That applies to cis men that try to hard to be macho, and it also applies to FtM transsexuals. MtF and nonbinary people, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of dating them, but it'd probably take me a while to get used to the whole gender identity thing.

[Captiotia]

Yeah, this is true. I find it weird to make so many generalizations and blanket statements though. Why wouldn't you date a trans person? Their gender identity or their genitals? If genitals is the issue, there are post-op trans people. Also, there are nonbinary or agender trans people, like me, who might have the genitals you'd prefer. Also, bigender trans people and more.

For me, it would depend on the individual. The only category of trans people that I can't imagine ever being attracted to, even if I was very close to them as a friend, are FtM. I'm not attracted to people who go out of their way to be masculine. That applies to cis men that try to hard to be macho, and it also applies to FtM transsexuals. MtF and nonbinary people, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of dating them, but it'd probably take me a while to get used to the whole gender identity thing.

Oh yes, we are similar in the FtM/masculinity aspect. Also nonbinary people who masculinize themselves. I could get close to anybody, but such characteristics are not attractive to me.

[The Sanguinian Islands]

what the fuck stop don't speak for us

If by "us," you mean binary women, I'm sorry, but there are arguments on the side of trans people like me which support the existence of a transmisogynistic patriarchy.
If you mean WOC, I'm very very sorry and you're right.

You are a pathetic person, sorry, but I cannot believe you are being serious right now

[Othelos]

For me, it would depend on the individual. The only category of trans people that I can't imagine ever being attracted to, even if I was very close to them as a friend, are FtM. I'm not attracted to people who go out of their way to be masculine. That applies to cis men that try to hard to be macho, and it also applies to FtM transsexuals.

Same.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It worries me just how ignorant that sentence is.

Transsexuals are probably closet homosexuals. A man wants to become a woman and probably is also attracted to men. Why not just be a drag queen and date gay men instead? He wouldn't need a complex surgery and he has the option to dress properly when visiting his family (so they don't know his other lifestyle). He also wouldn't be lying to straight men that have no interest in dating a transsexual.

I am not trying to be rude, it just seems unnecessary to change ones sex and it is really sad when they have children and change sex later. It shames the family (especially in the case when a public official did it). He had a 15 year old son at the time of divorce, I am curious if the son was upset about the situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Stanton

http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgover ... end/784680

It's not just about who they want to sleep with. There is other psychological stuff going on.

[Captiotia]

If by "us," you mean binary women, I'm sorry, but there are arguments on the side of trans people like me which support the existence of a transmisogynistic patriarchy.
If you mean WOC, I'm very very sorry and you're right.

You are a pathetic person, sorry, but I cannot believe you are being serious right now

Okay, please counter me properly then. This is for debate, not name-calling. Argument will strengthen us both.

[Qubec]

I dont have issues with it whatsoever. I have transgender friends. Its just they way they are and no one should tell them any different

[Grenartia]

I would date mtf people

honestly because they have a penis : /

If its purely because they have a penis, a lot of transwomen I know would not return your affections (IMO, rightfully so), because that's transchasing, which is basically just fetishism.

Since everyone's talking about it, I have to be honest, I wouldn't date an ftm.

Eh, don't really care for FtMs much, since they tend to be too masculine for my tastes.

MtFs, though? That's another story.

I honestly do prefer trans people over cis people, if only because I feel like trans people are more likely to understand me than a cis person would. Most of my previous lovers have been transwomen, but really only because transwomen seem to be more visible. I could honestly see myself going for a transman.

Yeah, this is true. I find it weird to make so many generalizations and blanket statements though. Why wouldn't you date a trans person? Their gender identity or their genitals? If genitals is the issue, there are post-op trans people. Also, there are nonbinary or agender trans people, like me, who might have the genitals you'd prefer. Also, bigender trans people and more.

For me, it would depend on the individual. The only category of trans people that I can't imagine ever being attracted to, even if I was very close to them as a friend, are FtM. I'm not attracted to people who go out of their way to be masculine. That applies to cis men that try to hard to be macho, and it also applies to FtM transsexuals. MtF and nonbinary people, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of dating them, but it'd probably take me a while to get used to the whole gender identity thing.

A lot of us took a while to get used to our gender identity at first, too.

[Lies and Ignorance]

I think it's sad that public opinion is assumed to range from active bigotry to passive acceptance. There's no option on this poll for active appreciation, support, or cherishing of trans people. I'd have picked "trans people are freaking awesome and rad" if it was there.

[Murkwood]

God I really reaaally support trans rights, amd I really beat myself up about the fact that I think I couldn't date a trans person.
I feel like a very shallow and horrible person every time I think about it.

Since I'm not gay, I could never date a transperson.

[Conkerials]

God I really reaaally support trans rights, amd I really beat myself up about the fact that I think I couldn't date a trans person.
I feel like a very shallow and horrible person every time I think about it.

Since I'm not gay, I could never date a transperson.

Why not?

[Sun Wukong]

God I really reaaally support trans rights, amd I really beat myself up about the fact that I think I couldn't date a trans person.
I feel like a very shallow and horrible person every time I think about it.

Since I'm not gay, I could never date a transperson.

Unless you propose that all transpeople automatically count as your same gender, I can't imagine any way in which this statement makes sense.

[Murkwood]

True, but you have to admit it is kind of scary knowing there are people out there that want you dead because of your sexual preferences. I will never understand it.

Said the cis het man to the androgynous pansexual.

How does that even...androgynous? Really?

[Murkwood]

Since I'm not gay, I could never date a transperson.

Unless you propose that all transpeople automatically count as your same gender, I can't imagine any way in which this statement makes sense.

It's a joke.

MtF: Still a man
FtM: I'm not gay.

[Murkwood]

Since I'm not gay, I could never date a transperson.

Why not?

I couldn't date someone who thinks they are the wrong gender.

[Threlizdun]

Unless you propose that all transpeople automatically count as your same gender, I can't imagine any way in which this statement makes sense.

It's a joke.

MtF: Still a man
FtM: I'm not gay.

So they could identify as female and be physically female but because their sex at birth is male they aren't female to you even when everything else about them is? Why not just declare that no one ever actually ages? After all, we are born infants, so just because we stop identifying as infants and don't have the bodies of infants clearly doesn't have any bearing when we were born as infants right?

[Murkwood]

It's a joke.

MtF: Still a man
FtM: I'm not gay.

So they could identify as female and be physically female but because their sex at birth is male they aren't female to you even when everything else about them is? Why not just declare that no one ever actually ages? After all, we are born infants, so just because we stop identifying as infants and don't have the bodies of infants clearly doesn't have any bearing when we were born as infants right?

Ageing is something we all do.

Sex-change isn't.

[Kelinfort]

Of course I support transgender rights.

I would date a transgender individual if I found them attractive, sure.

[Sun Wukong]

So they could identify as female and be physically female but because their sex at birth is male they aren't female to you even when everything else about them is? Why not just declare that no one ever actually ages? After all, we are born infants, so just because we stop identifying as infants and don't have the bodies of infants clearly doesn't have any bearing when we were born as infants right?

Ageing is something we all do.

Sex-change isn't.

Yeah, only approximately 50% of the population does that.

[Murkwood]

Ageing is something we all do.

Sex-change isn't.

Yeah, only approximately 50% of the population does that.

Huh?

[Sun Wukong]

Yeah, only approximately 50% of the population does that.

Huh?

Males.

All males start out as females.

[Murkwood]

Huh?

Males.

All males start out as females.

Still not following you.