by Totally Not Leningrad Union » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:56 am
by Calisu » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:57 am
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
by Geilinor » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:59 am
Calisu wrote:Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
America the most likely country to interfere is not a christian nation.
by Vazdania » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:01 am
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
by Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:02 am
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
by Geanna » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:14 am
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
by The Re-Frisivisiaing » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:23 am
by Geilinor » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:33 am
Eurasian Socialist Peoples wrote:The east is never allowed to intervene...
by Eurasian Socialist Peoples » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:34 am
Blazedtown wrote:Eurasian Socialist Peoples wrote:The east is never allowed to intervene...
I wonder why
by Furry Alairia and Algeria » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:39 am
by The TransPecos » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:43 am
by Pope Joan » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:56 am
Vazdania wrote:Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:I believe that the west (North America, EU) need to intervene in the middle east again to stabilize the current situation.
Christians and other minority groups and being discriminated and killed in many Arab countries, if no one can help them, I believe that it is our duty as the free world to help out those in need. No one intervened in Nazi Germany and the holocaust happened.
Thoughts, NSG?
It's clear that the United States and Euro Union should preform air strikes against ISIS. Its pretty clear that there is little if any support for a ground "invasion" or operation that involves soldiers on the ground.
by The Re-Frisivisiaing » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:58 am
The TransPecos wrote:No intervention. Establish cordon sanitaire. Drop weapons. If fighting ever stops, drop more weapons. If fighting doesn't restart, check if there is really anyone left alive. Cruel, perhaps. Heartless, perhaps. Realistic, absolutely. You can't heal millennia of ignorance, social corruption, and brutality with a few years of soft-hearted intervention.
by Benuty » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:11 am
by Occupied Deutschland » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:13 am
Benuty wrote:The West has been "intervening" in terms of modernity since the fall of the Ottomans what more do you want?
by Farnhamia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:26 am
by Al-Faisal » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:37 am
Farnhamia wrote:Occupied Deutschland wrote:Some more successful intervention in terms of modern social and cultural attitudes? *nod*
I don't know how possible that is. Amin Maalouf, in his The Crusades Through Arab Eyes, makes the point that those wars all those many years ago froze Islam into a posture of fear and defense regarding the West. The experience was so horrific for the Muslims that even though they ultimately won and expelled the barbarians from the lands they ruled, they could never look on overtures from the West with anything but suspicion. I can't say he's absolutely correct but I believe there is some truth in this.
by Sediczja » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:43 am
Aodan wrote:YES THE US SHOULD TOTALLY INTERVENE NOW. Let me guess? Out of oil? :/
Anarcho-Saxony wrote:The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened
Carcelea wrote:WHEN IT WILL STOPS?????
Saiwania wrote:Instead of adjusting my world view to fit more closely with facts, I prefer to try to force the facts into my world view. I've come to my conclusion: that race mixing is bad, therefore I have to do my best to minimize what contradicts that and maximize what supports it. I desperately want the Bible's scriptures to say that God forbids interracial marriage.
by Farnhamia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:44 am
Al-Faisal wrote:Farnhamia wrote:I don't know how possible that is. Amin Maalouf, in his The Crusades Through Arab Eyes, makes the point that those wars all those many years ago froze Islam into a posture of fear and defense regarding the West. The experience was so horrific for the Muslims that even though they ultimately won and expelled the barbarians from the lands they ruled, they could never look on overtures from the West with anything but suspicion. I can't say he's absolutely correct but I believe there is some truth in this.
It goes all around. The Islamic invasions of Christian North Africa, Iberia, Sicily and Italy, France, the Balkans, Austria, and other places were equally traumatizing. And even though the Jihadist barbarians were eventually driven out of most of those lands, today those events are largely overlooked and ignored. It's no wonder that those places have also looked on Muslims with suspicion and discomfort.
And yet while those places are now modern in terms of social and cultural attitudes, most Islamic nations are still trapped in the past.
by Pragia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:44 am
by Baltenstein » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:48 am
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