Your gender identity and sexual orientation?

[Liriena]

Ah yes "gender identity, and sexual orientation" we higher evolved sapients have dismissed such galactic superstitions .

You. I like you.

[Jumalariik]

What is the difference between a rare/wierd sexual identity and a fetish?

[Othelos]

What is the difference between a rare/wierd sexual identity and a fetish?

sexual fetish - sexual arousal a person receives from a physical object, or from a specific situation.

sexual orientation - an enduring personal quality that inclines people to feel romantic or sexual attraction (or a combination of these) to persons of the opposite sex or gender, the same sex or gender, or to both sexes or more than one gender.

[Neutraligon]

Pansexual... male, I guess. My gender identity is kinda "don't give a sh*t" at this point.

Liri Can we have another party?

[Lurensia]

Genderfluid pansexual.

[Meryuma]

So you're only attracted to other genderqueer individuals? If not, you may wish to state androsexual or gynosexual instead. With the exception of those who literally are only attracted to those who share their gender identity, binary sexualities don't really make much sends for non-binary genders.

what the fuck is androsexual gynosexual sexisexual ect

this is bullshit

Androsexual = attracted to males
Gynosexual = attracted to females

Mostly useful for non-binary people.

Male and str8 as a str8 guy.

Pretty sure I've only seen "straight" abbreviated like that in the context of male/male sex.

what the fuck is androsexual gynosexual sexisexual ect

this is bullshit

Androsexual= sexual attraction to masculinity

Gynosexual= sexual attraction to feminity

Nothing bullshitty about it.

Males =/= masculinity and same goes for females and feminity.

Heterosexual Male. Though I did have a romantic relationship with a man once, if that means anything.

It means you're not entirely straight.

What is genderqueer?

you have NO GENDER ISNT THAT COOL IM 15

Non-binary genders are traditional to many cultures. It's not like the concept was invented 5 years ago or something.

[Luziyca]

Heterosexual male.

[Napkiraly]

Heterosexual male.

[Olivaero]

I'm Bi (Well more like pan but the struggles of explaining pan to people long ago led me to stop trying) and I don't know what gender I am actually. But I suffer from Dysphoria and it's really shitty.

[Beta Test]

Heterosexual Male.

[Ioghrnia]

Homosexual male

[Czervenika]

I'm a cis female asexual. Yes, we exist.

[Nioya]

I am a gay male and I dissaprove of transexuality completely.

[Czervenika]

I am a gay male and I dissaprove of transexuality completely.

Why?

[Rocopurr]

what the fuck is androsexual gynosexual sexisexual ect

this is bullshit

Androsexual = attracted to males
Gynosexual = attracted to females

Mostly useful for non-binary people.

Male and str8 as a str8 guy.

Pretty sure I've only seen "straight" abbreviated like that in the context of male/male sex.

Androsexual= sexual attraction to masculinity

Gynosexual= sexual attraction to feminity

Nothing bullshitty about it.

Males =/= masculinity and same goes for females and feminity.

Heterosexual Male. Though I did have a romantic relationship with a man once, if that means anything.

It means you're not entirely straight.

you have NO GENDER ISNT THAT COOL IM 15

Non-binary genders are traditional to many cultures. It's not like the concept was invented 5 years ago or something.

Indeed. That's why I used masculinity and not male. This posts explains androphilia and gynophilia better:

What about being attracted to both? is that simply bisexual or does androsexual mean something different than say gay (if you're a man attracted to masculinity) or straight (if you're a man attracted to femininity) or are they just synonyms?

[Grenartia]

Well, I disagree with that bit about gender being stereotypes, because its actually gender roles (which aren't gender) that you're talking about.

Okay, I need to know more about this, if you don't mind.

As far as I can tell, "sex" is physical and "gender" are the personality characteristics usually associated with a certain sex. So what's the difference between "gender" and "gender roles"?

I'm gonna be honest here. I can't tell you exactly what gender is. Its one of those things humanity still hasn't gotten around to fully understanding yet. But I can tell you that we do know at least one of the things it isn't. And it certainly isn't any of the various gender roles.

1. Just an FYI, that's sex, not gender.

1. Which I get, I simply find the usage of it to be rather.... Well, awkward. The way people describe "gender" makes it sound more like personality, or maybe hormones and how that affects your brain, which boils down to your sex then (I assume)

2. Except, neither are involved with the concept of gender identity.

Which again seems like a rather vague term. I see myself as "male" only because I have male body parts. Everything that goes on in my mind is either me (and I don't think I became a gender type any time recently) or the hormones that make me function as I do, which are related to my sex.

3. Not exactly a hypothesis, much less, one that was "written around " us. I totally respect the fact that you think of yourself as a dude, but your words seem to indicate you think you're a dude because you happen to have a dick.

Difference of opinions here. My belief is that how you are born is what you are (sex wise at least), and then gender just seems to take things like personality and hormones and try to apply that to "gender". Maybe I'm wrong, but that's certainly how it seems.

4. Define "in your face". And what about what you do in our faces?

2. Well it kind of means what it says. If I don't have to see you doing something (like being sexual, or perhaps gay pride parades, which I mention only because some of them boil down a lot to sexuality) then I'm fine. And what exactly do I do in your faces? If you're referring to people gay bashing, that's what I consider hate speech, and ergo a crime. If you're referring to heterosexual couples being overly sexual in public, then no I don't approve of that simply because they're heterosexual, they can take it to their room. And given that I've never heard of a straight pride parade, I doubt that's much of an "in your face" issue. As for that, I've got no other complaints. Go ahead and get married, adopt children perhaps even, and do what you wish in terms of sexual activity, just don't do it in public (a rule that obviously applies to everybody anyways).

5. So, you honestly think a trans person's safety should come second to other people "needing" to know whether or not the person they're with is trans? Because that's literally the only reason the trans people who aren't more open and up front about being trans is because they fear for their lives.

Which I totally understand, however I live in a country (Canada) where that is (from my own experience) considerably rarer than in other countries. I live in basically a hill billy town with at least two fairly open trans persons, and they have so far suffered no issues of safety to themselves. 3. Of course, I'm also not wanting trans people to wear some sort of "T" badge on their shirts to identify them either because I realize how off the wall insane that would be. 4. Asking for a T to be put on their passport or birth certificate aren't much to ask in a civilized nation, and those nation's that would pose a threat to them? Those aren't exactly what I consider "civilized" nations, or at least not decent ones. 5. Still, if a Trans person wishes to go and visit Russia (for example) then maybe an alternative out of country passport could be designed for them. I simply don't think it's fair that someone else's sexuality get's forced on a person, especially given that marriages can be annulled for far less severe reasons (ex. being drunk, marrying a twin to the person you intended to marry, etc).

6. How about this?: Grant trans folks who are in the binary identification reflecting their identity, and grant those of us who aren't in the binary IDs reflecting our identities, instead of issuing a blanket "all transgender people must be considered a third gender" ID.

6. Because there should be some kind of a paper trail to legally prove a person has in fact legally changed their gender. I think this is important for potential partners (albeit, no person should be forced to reveal this kind of information about themselves, nor should it be obtainable without the permission of the person being asked about) to have this option, should the other party consent, and I also think it may avoid issues with traveling, immigrating, emigrating, etc. I could be wrong, but I do think it could be useful.

7. Again, its an issue of safety. Trans deception is a myth, and a harmful stereotype.

You misunderstand me. 7. I am not saying it is always the case, I am saying it is a potential case, and 8. it's unfair for someone else to force their sexuality on someone. 9. As for safety, I'm sure there are ways to work with this, but bare in mind that many other groups face as much (if not more) safety issues than trans people (like people of other races, or homosexuals), and 10. none of them have had to show a passport or birth certificate to be put in danger either.

8. Well they can get the fuck over themselves. Since when did other people get to dictate who I am?

11. And who is trying to dictate who you are exactly? Don't read what you want out of what I said. 12. If someone marries a person and finds out later they are transgendered, they should have every right to seek an annulment of the marriage, and I don't think they should be made to feel bad for that because it was their sexuality that was infringed upon. 13. And again, I am not suggesting that trans people should have to inform people they are transgendered, but I don't see why there shouldn't be some kind of an option.

9. And yet its somehow fair to force trans people to expose themselves to even more danger than we often already are, just so somebody else can sleep soundly at night knowing they aren't dating some "tranny"? Where's our right to sleep soundly at night?

Do tell where you think this danger is coming from? If you feel your life is threatened then guess what? 14. There are probably other ways of finding out if your trans then just looking at a birth certificate. 15. And frankly, if you're in such danger where you are, then that's a matter of hate crimes that your country seriously needs to get a handle on. As I said, I know of two very open trans people in my town, and they've been excepted with open arms. 16. And for the record, this town used to be a KKK run town, so that should speak for something. 17. But if you think telling a potential romantic interest you're transgendered is going to put your life in danger, then please tell me, what logical, rational person, would try to pursue a relationship with a person like that? Because that and/or a doctor or legal professional should be the only people you should ever have to reveal your gender to. Not the media, not the country, not anything that puts that in the public eye. 18. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't lawyers, doctors, etc. bound by some kind of confidentiality law? 19. Only in a corrupt and backwards nation would those things get thrown out the window, in which case you probably shouldn't live there. Laws are meant to protect all people, and if they aren't doing that then you need to reconsider your residence.

1. Not necessarily. If there is a biological basis for gender, then its most likely something to do with the structure of the brain. From what I've read, in the womb, a fetus experiences several hormone "baths". The most important one to this conversation being the second one, which doesn't seem to be influenced by the sex of the fetus, but rather, various environmental conditions outside the control of either the fetus or the person with the womb.

2. You say "being sexual" like that's happened often enough for it to actually be a valid concern. Unless you're also referring to kissing and the like (a lot of people do mean kissing and holding hands and the like, when they say "don't be in my face about it"). At which point, I have to wonder if you hold the same standards for heterosexual couples.

3. You kind of are, by saying we need some sort of "T" marker on our identification.

4. Considering how rampant transphobia is even in the first world, yeah, it kind of is too much to ask. It kind of says a lot about how the rest of society, at large, views and treats trans people when our only real holiday is one to remember those of us who've been murdered for being trans, or were driven to suicide by transphobia. And I'm pretty damn sure that despite that classic Canadian politeness, the Great White North isn't immune to transphobia.

5. Then why not just issue one passport without an infamous "T" marker on it? Saves all involved time, money, hassles, and confusion.

6. Why? And if it really is necessary, then why not just make some sort of sealed record (like a plain manilla folder with a letter stapled to it saying "X person underwent legal transition, effective as of Y date, verified by Z medical and bureaucratic professionals") accessible only upon some sort of court order or something, indicating changes to the documentation, without actually indicating changes to said documentation on said documentation?

7. And I'm saying its almost never a "potential case".

8. What's being forced? If you want to have romantic/sexual relations with a woman, and you get involved with a transwoman, you STILL have only had romantic/sexual relations with a woman, regardless of which sex chromosomes she happened to have been born with. She should have every right to refuse to reveal that information, because the "right" of her partner(s) to know whether or not they kissed/had sex with somebody who possesses the same sex chromosomes DOES NOT supercede her right to privacy and safety. When faced with an either/or choice between one person's safety and another's comfort, any and every reasonable person would and should choose safety.

9. You obviously haven't seen the statistics, then.

10. None of them are equivalent to being transgender, either.

11. On a personal level, anybody who gets offended that I'm trans, and says that I'm not the gender I am. As for the larger picture, you are, by advocating for policies that would require trans people to out themselves, even in situations that they might be at risk of life and limb for doing so.

12. I never recalled saying that they shouldn't be able to. I'm all for being able to divorce anybody for any reason. But based on your other statements, you're either asking for status quo (which I consider highly unlikely, because why would anybody be asking for something that they already have?), or are asking for some legal basis to ensure that trans people out themselves.

13. That's pretty much literally status quo.

14. Except, those ways are pretty hard to use. Having any sort of indicator on a birth certificate/drivers' license/etc., is actually an easier way to get outed than whatever other methods. Its the difference between having the "infamous "T"" branded/tattooed on your forehead, and having a microscopic "T" shaped birthmark.

15. No shit, Sherlock. And its not just the US that needs to get better on it (though thank God/the FSM/Atheismo/whatever that the Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Hate Crime Law includes actual/perceived gender identity), its the ENTIRE WORLD (including Canada).

16. Rare exception that sets an example more places should follow.

17. You seem to think its so easy to tell if a person's a violent transphobe. Like all violent transphobes wear T-shirts advertizing that fact, or have swastika tattoos or something. Not the case at all. Transphobia is not that obvious to spot. Nobody walks around wearing a trucker hat that says "I kill trannies".

18. Yes, but even if you're lucky enough to live in a jurisdiction where gender identity is covered under that, they could probably find ways around it. Just because the law exists, doesn't mean people always follow it.

19. Moving elsewhere is easier said than done. Besides, its not like there's many places that are good enough on this issue anyhow.

[Meridiani Planum]

Sex: Male
Gender Identity: Male (or is that masculine?)
Orientation: Straight

[Herrebrugh]

Male and str8 as a str8 guy.

Pretty sure I've only seen "straight" abbreviated like that in the context of male/male sex.

Hehe, so have I.

[Grenartia]

Pansexual... male, I guess. My gender identity is kinda "don't give a sh*t" at this point.

I must confess, if we lived in the same country, I'd totally be all over you.

[Grenartia]

I'm Bi (Well more like pan but the struggles of explaining pan to people long ago led me to stop trying) and I don't know what gender I am actually. But I suffer from Dysphoria and it's really shitty.

Dem feels. If you need to talk, my inboxes are always open.

I am a gay male and I dissaprove of transexuality completely.

You're going to have to be a lot edgier than that if you want to be a circle, sweetie.

[Valica]

2. No. Its not. You couldn't be any more wrong. Its short hand for "cisgender heterosexual".

Oh, FUCK.

I've heard the term cis-shit, but never cis-het.
I thought they were typing cis-shit.

Whoops, my bad.

[Kengran]

Male, and pansexual. As a fun fact, either due to low technology on hand at the hospital my gender was defined, or due to some anomaly, I was originally female up until about a couple of weeks before my birth, so I had to live in pink stuff for a while.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I see a lot of people posting that they're straight/bi curious. I have a question. If you say you're bi curious, wouldn't it be strange to say you're straight too?

[Immoren]

Pansexual... male, I guess. My gender identity is kinda "don't give a sh*t" at this point.

Liri Can we have another party?

We should start a club.

[Valica]

I see a lot of people posting that they're straight/bi curious. I have a question. If you say you're bi curious, wouldn't it be strange to say you're straight too?

Bisexual implies you've completely accepted your interest in both genders.
Straight + bi-curious implies you're mostly straight but have passing bisexual thoughts.