Your gender identity and sexual orientation?

[The Holy Therns]

It sure is hard being thought of as superior to women.

Values like that can make it very hard for guys who fall outside the norms. A grasp of intersectionality forces the admission that some women have more privilege than some men. Still, to say that men are more oppressed than women in aggregate even in the West is, to say the least, not rigorously reality-compliant. I don't think anyone was saying that yet, but let's not turn an interesting discussion about the complex diffusion of power and privilege into a feminazi vs. Men's Rage Activist slanging match.

This. Listen to this. This is wise.

[Neutraligon]

Isn't it? I feel that men are more in shackles in regards to what music can one listen, what films and series can one watch and what fashion sense can one have. Women can feel free to be tomboys or 'boyish' in some way, while girly boys are condemned and called names. This compulsory machismo has to end.

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

[Ifreann]

It sure is hard being thought of as superior to women.

Values like that can make it very hard for guys who fall outside the norms. A grasp of intersectionality forces the admission that some women have more privilege than some men. Still, to say that men are more oppressed than women in aggregate even in the West is, to say the least, not rigorously reality-compliant. I don't think anyone was saying that yet, but let's not turn an interesting discussion about the complex diffusion of power and privilege into a feminazi vs. Men's Rage Activist slanging match.

I hate it when you're being smart instead of silly, it makes me look stupid.

[Othelos]

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

It sure is hard being thought of as superior to women.

That's not how I interpret it but ok

[Othelos]

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Oh right I always forget that the south is several decades behind everyone else

[Neema]

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Oh right I always forget that the south is several decades behind everyone else

Native of the south here to confirm that.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

My gender is best explained as [situationally dinamically] genderfluid epicene (my gender shifts in the direction of what I perceive to be the gender of a person I am dealing with through an emotion that feels like half-way of empathy and fondness; it "works" with several kinds of non-binary transgender, too) juxtaposed within [slightly] genderfluid demiboy (neutrois + boy-ish masculinity sentiments at the same time; at rare times I get gradually more inclined to either of these; I was completely masculine for the entire last month of July).

So genderfluid epicene demiboy?

Might explain at greater depth if anyone wishes (I even made a diagram, but it's sucky as all hell). I never identified as a man, and never will, and I know that for sure since July 2013 (age 18 and a half). All I knew in the 6 years before starting at early 2007 (age 12) was that I didn't feel feminine, I felt kind of somehow masculine (I don't even bother my given name and prefer my designated gender's pronouns), and yet I had gender dysphoria, what didn't make a lot of sense all these years.

My sexual orientation is bi-pan. And I'm fucking coming out for the third time about these matters, right here, right now.

I identify as bi since January 2008 (age 13) and as pan since August 2014 (age 19 and a half). Breaking it down, I am equally indifferent to gender when it comes to romantic, emotional, platonic, sensual, aesthetic, intellectual and secondary sexual attraction (the last is that one that demisexual people have but folks further into the asexual spectrum [generally] don't), and androflexible (attraction mainly to males/masculinity but that is not absolute) when it comes to primary sexual attraction (that one that demisexual people don't have).

[Araraukar]

I feel that women have still more freedom in the Western society to express their gender without having to fear judgment coming from ignorant individuals while doing that.

I don't quite understand what this means.

I crossdress every now and then in private, but I don't dare to go the public to do that, for example. My home country is a bit backwards and it doesn't help me one bit.

Aww. I hope things will change one day.

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

I don't want to be rude to either of you, but where on earth do you live? Russia? No, wait, women are supposed to be feminine there...

My gender is best explained as [situationally dinamically] genderfluid epicene (my gender shifts in the direction of what I perceive to be the gender of a person I am dealing with through an emotion that feels like half-way of empathy and fondness; it "works" with several kinds of non-binary transgender, too) juxtaposed within [slightly] genderfluid demiboy (neutrois + boy-ish masculinity sentiments at the same time; at rare times I get gradually more inclined to either of these; I was completely masculine for the entire last month of July).

So genderfluid epicene demiboy?

Might explain at greater depth if anyone wishes (I even made a diagram, but it's sucky as all hell). I never identified as a man, and never will, and I know that for sure since July 2013 (age 18 and a half). All I knew in the 6 years before starting at early 2007 (age 12) was that I didn't feel feminine, I felt kind of somehow masculine (I don't even bother my given name and prefer my designated gender's pronouns), and yet I had gender dysphoria, what didn't make a lot of sense all these years.

My sexual orientation is bi-pan. And I'm fucking coming out for the third time about these matters, right here, right now.

I identify as bi since January 2008 (age 13) and as pan since August 2014 (age 19 and a half). Breaking it down, I am equally indifferent to gender when it comes to romantic, emotional, platonic, sensual, aesthetic, intellectual and secondary sexual attraction (the last is that one that demisexual people have but folks further into the asexual spectrum [generally] don't), and androflexible (attraction mainly to males/masculinity but that is not absolute) when it comes to primary sexual attraction (that one that demisexual people don't have).

I don't envy having to explain that to people. Have an encouraging hug for your 3rd coming out:

[Conscentia]

[...] epicene (my gender shifts in the direction of what I perceive to be the gender of a person I am dealing with through an emotion that feels like half-way of empathy and fondness; it "works" with several kinds of non-binary transgender, too)[...]

That's not what epicene means.

Epicene means "having characteristics of both sexes or no characteristics of either sex; of indeterminate sex".

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Epicene means "[...] of indeterminate sex".

Pretty much why I chose this label, adopted by other people formerly.

I use it to explain my gender ambiguity/inertness.

It's like androgyny, but instead of andro + giné, it's everything. Neutral, plural, queer, ambiguous of traditional binary, fluid, basically about everything can fit.

[Zottistan]

Biologically male.

Agender gender identity.

Male gender expression.

Pansexual.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Biologically male.

Agender gender identity.

Male gender expression.

Pansexual.

I didn't know you're genderqueer too. O.o

[Zottistan]

Biologically male.

Agender gender identity.

Male gender expression.

Pansexual.

I didn't know you're genderqueer too. O.o

My stance on my own gender is kind of "eh, whatever". It might be mostly-cismale privilege, but my own gender never really mattered much to me.

[Mons Garle]

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Oh right I always forget that the south is several decades behind everyone else

Just look at that video that's appeared online with that guy from Georgia getting blasted and disowned by his family... for the simple fact he happens to be gay. I swear that part of the US is 50 years behind the rest.

[Sebastianbourg]

Oh right I always forget that the south is several decades behind everyone else

Just look at that video that's appeared online with that guy from Georgia getting blasted and disowned by his family... for the simple fact he happens to be gay. I swear that part of the US is 50 years behind the rest.

A whole century behind would be more accurate in my opinion!
By the way, I'm male and heterosexual but I respect everyone's right to decide for themselves what they want to do with their lives.

[Neema]

Just look at that video that's appeared online with that guy from Georgia getting blasted and disowned by his family... for the simple fact he happens to be gay. I swear that part of the US is 50 years behind the rest.

A whole century behind would be more accurate in my opinion!
By the way, I'm male and heterosexual but I respect everyone's right to decide for themselves what they want to do with their lives.

I live in the south, it's in the middle ages.

[Othelos]

Oh right I always forget that the south is several decades behind everyone else

Just look at that video that's appeared online with that guy from Georgia getting blasted and disowned by his family... for the simple fact he happens to be gay. I swear that part of the US is 50 years behind the rest.

I saw that...yeah, that's unheard of where I live.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I saw that...yeah, that's unheard of where I live.

In Brazil it could have happened in each and every city. But perhaps a social class cohort would have made it weird among some groups from the most developed cities.

Not that rich people in Curitiba, Niterói or the leet places of São Paulo aren't reactionary, much on the contrary. But I think they lean more to social hygiene than to patriarchal fury in their hate.

[Thama]

- Pansexual
- Something among the lines of agender, but referring to myself as male out of convenience
Male out of Convenience is coincidentally the title of my work-in-progress autobiography, to be published after my life is over (get arrested, die, or turn 40)

Don't just pray the gay away
Pray it away to me, so that I can absorb it and use it's power to destroy my enemies

[Anglo-California]

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Where might they be?

[The Rich Port]

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Where might they be?

The more conservative places in America.

So, many places, from Florida to Utah to Tennessee to Louisiana.

[Distruzio]

Depends on where you live. There are still places in the US where women are expected to act in feminine ways, to stay at home and raise the children, etc.

Where might they be?

My house.

[Othelos]

Where might they be?

My house.

lol.

[Fabulous Rainicorns]

I am panromantic grey-asexual and trans male.

[Immoren]

I am panromantic grey-asexual and trans male.

Asexual towards greys?