Your gender identity and sexual orientation?

[Conscentia]

Also, pan is a sexual orientation because pan people are oriented to all sexes/genders. Asexual is the lack of an orientation, because it means that the person isn't oriented towards anyone.

I kind of disagree that asexuality is the "lack" of a sexual orientation. You're correct that it means lack of sexual attraction (i.e. attraction to no genders) but as per being a description of an individual's relationship to others, it's still a normal sexual orientation.

Asexuality is not attraction to the absence of gender. That's absurd.

[Lies and Ignorance]

I kind of disagree that asexuality is the "lack" of a sexual orientation. You're correct that it means lack of sexual attraction (i.e. attraction to no genders) but as per being a description of an individual's relationship to others, it's still a normal sexual orientation.

Asexuality is not attraction to the absence of gender. That's absurd.

Well, aside from the fact that's not what I said, agender people do exist and people are attracted to them, so I hardly see how that's absurd.

[Conscentia]

Asexuality is not attraction to the absence of gender. That's absurd.

Well, aside from the fact that's not what I said, agender people do exist and people are attracted to them, so I hardly see how that's absurd.

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

[Lies and Ignorance]

Well, aside from the fact that's not what I said, agender people do exist and people are attracted to them, so I hardly see how that's absurd.

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

It's not and it wouldn't have been if it was.

[Jormengand]

Well, aside from the fact that's not what I said, agender people do exist and people are attracted to them, so I hardly see how that's absurd.

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

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He's talking about the latter, you're pretending he's talking about the former. Stop it.

[Lies and Ignorance]

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

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He's talking about the latter, you're pretending he's talking about the former. Stop it.

Thank you, Jesus H.

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

Bisexual male, I guess.

[Artaeon]

Bisexual male, I guess.

You guess?

[The Republic of Mattlandia]

Bisexual male, I guess.

You guess?

Bi-curious is perhaps a better description.

[Conscentia]

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

It's not and it wouldn't have been if it was.

You said:
"it means lack of sexual attraction (i.e. attraction to no genders)" which is the same as saying that asexuality means attraction to the absence of gender, which is absurd because that's not what it means. The quoted statement is also absurd because it equate a lack of sexual attraction to attraction to no genders. No sexual attraction =/= attraction to no genders.

It is what you said, and it was an absurd thing to say.

This right here is a set with zero in it: [0]
This right here is a set with nothing in it: []
He's talking about the latter, you're pretending he's talking about the former. Stop it.

Zero is nothing. That symbol is a representation of nothing, or the absence of a quantity in mathematics specifically.

[Jormengand]

"it means lack of sexual attraction (i.e. attraction to no genders)" which is the same as saying that asexuality means attraction to the absence of gender

No, it means "Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" or "No attraction to any genders" or "Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none."

It could mean what you thought it meant, but I think we've both clarified that that wasn't what he was talking about.

Zero is nothing. That symbol is a representation of nothing, or the absence of a quantity in mathematics specifically.

No, it isn't. If I say "The temperature in this room is zero degrees celsius" it means something competely different to "The temperature in this room is nothing." The latter means that the temperature in this room is actually a nonentity, perhaps this room doesn't even exist, while the former means that it's 273K.

[Conscentia]

"it means lack of sexual attraction (i.e. attraction to no genders)" which is the same as saying that asexuality means attraction to the absence of gender

No, it means "Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" or "No attraction to any genders" or "Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none."

It could mean what you thought it meant, but I think we've both clarified that that wasn't what he was talking about.

No it doesn't. At least not in English as I understand it.
"Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" doesn't make any sense.
"No attraction to any genders" =/= "attraction to no genders"
"Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none." =/= "attraction to no genders"

[Conscentia]

Zero is nothing. That symbol is a representation of nothing, or the absence of a quantity in mathematics specifically.

No, it isn't. If I say "The temperature in this room is zero degrees celsius" it means something competely different to "The temperature in this room is nothing." The latter means that the temperature in this room is actually a nonentity, perhaps this room doesn't even exist, while the former means that it's 273K.

Your right, they do mean different things, but because the units are not specified in the second statement.
The proper equal would be "The temperature in this room is no degrees celsius", the "thing" here being degrees celsius.

[Jormengand]

No, it means "Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" or "No attraction to any genders" or "Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none."

It could mean what you thought it meant, but I think we've both clarified that that wasn't what he was talking about.

No it doesn't. At least not in English as I understand it.
"Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" doesn't make any sense.
"No attraction to any genders" =/= "attraction to no genders"
"Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none." =/= "attraction to no genders"

"A school shooter has been spotted in the area, however he wounded no people through his actions. He is under arrest, and the chief of police reminds us that no criminals can expect to get away with endangering human lives."

Do you get it, now? The shooter didn't wound the concept of "No people." He just didn't wound any people; there are not any people who he wounded. The CoP isn't worried about all of those no criminals who might be going around endangering human lives. He's just saying there aren't any criminals who can get away with endangering human lives.

[Conscentia]

No it doesn't. At least not in English as I understand it.
"Asexuality means attraction to not any genders" doesn't make any sense.
"No attraction to any genders" =/= "attraction to no genders"
"Of the possible forms that gender may take, attraction to none." =/= "attraction to no genders"

"A school shooter has been spotted in the area, however he wounded no people through his actions. He is under arrest, and the chief of police reminds us that no criminals can expect to get away with endangering human lives."
Do you get it, now? The shooter didn't wound the concept of "No people." He just didn't wound any people; there are not any people who he wounded. The CoP isn't worried about all of those no criminals who might be going around endangering human lives. He's just saying there aren't any criminals who can get away with endangering human lives.

Да.

[Obsidius]

My sex is male. I identify as a man, but I'd like to be something else. I'm not disturbed by my sex or current identification as a man, though.

As for sexual orientation, I am attracted towards females, girly boys and intersex people. So basically I'm a gynephile.

[Araraukar]

My sex is male. I identify as a man, but I'd like to be something else. I'm not disturbed by my sex or current identification as a man, though.

I'm intrigued, what do you mean with "would like to be something else", if you're still happy with your sex?

[Trevor Philips Industries]

Homosexual Male...so yea.

[Obsidius]

My sex is male. I identify as a man, but I'd like to be something else. I'm not disturbed by my sex or current identification as a man, though.

I'm intrigued, what do you mean with "would like to be something else", if you're still happy with your sex?

I feel that women have still more freedom in the Western society to express their gender without having to fear judgment coming from ignorant individuals while doing that. It's a slight hindrance for me, but I don't feel dysphoria for it or anything. I crossdress every now and then in private, but I don't dare to go the public to do that, for example. My home country is a bit backwards and it doesn't help me one bit.

[Othelos]

I feel that women have still more freedom in the Western society to express their gender without having to fear judgment coming from ignorant individuals while doing that.

That's definitely true.

[Aalnordhavn]

You guess?

Bi-curious is perhaps a better description.

Shhhh! Maybe he hasn't had the talk yet!

[Obsidius]

I feel that women have still more freedom in the Western society to express their gender without having to fear judgment coming from ignorant individuals while doing that.

That's definitely true.

Isn't it? I feel that men are more in shackles in regards to what music can one listen, what films and series can one watch and what fashion sense can one have. Women can feel free to be tomboys or 'boyish' in some way, while girly boys are condemned and called names. This compulsory machismo has to end.

[Othelos]

That's definitely true.

Isn't it? I feel that men are more in shackles in regards to what music can one listen, what films and series can one watch and what fashion sense can one have. Women can feel free to be tomboys or 'boyish' in some way, while girly boys are condemned and called names. This compulsory machismo has to end.

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

[Ifreann]

Isn't it? I feel that men are more in shackles in regards to what music can one listen, what films and series can one watch and what fashion sense can one have. Women can feel free to be tomboys or 'boyish' in some way, while girly boys are condemned and called names. This compulsory machismo has to end.

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

It sure is hard being thought of as superior to women.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yeah, exactly. Girls can do or be involved with feminine and masculine things, but guys have to pretty much stick to masculine stuff.

It sure is hard being thought of as superior to women.

Values like that can make it very hard for guys who fall outside the norms. A grasp of intersectionality forces the admission that some women have more privilege than some men. Still, to say that men are more oppressed than women in aggregate even in the West is, to say the least, not rigorously reality-compliant. I don't think anyone was saying that yet, but let's not turn an interesting discussion about the complex diffusion of power and privilege into a feminazi vs. Men's Rage Activist slanging match.