Your gender identity and sexual orientation?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

People who believe themselves to be non-human, in spirit if not in body. Wiki has an article.

Like me. I'm a trans*beanstalk giantkin.

Makes sense if you're one.

[Farnhamia]

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Is that offer open to me, perchance?

How's otherkin defined, exactly?

People who believe themselves to be non-human, in spirit if not in body. Wiki has an article.

^This.

People who believe themselves to be non-human, in spirit if not in body. Wiki has an article.

I'll read it then. I don't think I've ever met one.

They mostly reside on Dumblr and a few dedicated forums, IIRC.

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[Farnhamia]

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

*snip*

You just earned yourself a *** 1 day ban *** for repeating inappropriate language you were warned for just three days ago.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Is that offer open to me, perchance?

People who believe themselves to be non-human, in spirit if not in body. Wiki has an article.

^This.

I'll read it then. I don't think I've ever met one.

They mostly reside on Dumblr and a few dedicated forums, IIRC.

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I must say I feel a kinship, but not because I identify as an elf or some other mythical creature. I'm very much a human being. But because I understand how you can feel other than human at times.

I think this sounded too strange.

[Lies and Ignorance]

I'm non-binary and totally gay.

[Grenartia]

I'm non-binary and totally gay.

So, you're only into other non-binary people?

[Lies and Ignorance]

I'm non-binary and totally gay.

So, you're only into other non-binary people?

So true!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

So, you're only into other non-binary people?

So true!

Oh my, it's Truthy The Resurrection.

[Lies and Ignorance]

So true!

Oh my, it's Truthy The Resurrection.

I'd be lying if I said I'm happy to be back.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oh my, it's Truthy The Resurrection.

I'd be lying if I said I'm happy to be back.

Then don't lie.

Still nice to see you poking in.

[Lies and Ignorance]

I'd be lying if I said I'm happy to be back.

Then don't lie.

Still nice to see you poking in.

Thanks beb! Same to you.

[Conscentia]

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

[Threlizdun]

People who believe themselves to be non-human, in spirit if not in body. Wiki has an article.

I'll read it then. I don't think I've ever met one.

They're an interesting albeit rather confusing topic. As a furry I feel like I have a better understanding and appreciation for them than most, but the lines between symbolism and genuine belief amongst otherkin and therians is extremely blurry at times. Most seem to identify with an animal or mythical being on either a symbolic or spiritual level rather than biological. I'll admit that during my neopagan period I did feel a spiritual connection to the animal I felt best represented me, and that even now that I have left it that the fursona I created when becoming a part of the furry fandom still holds great personal significance to me. I would not self-identify as a therian, firmly acknowledging the fictional nature of my fursona, but I do understand why people would take it further than that.

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

There has been some minor differences noted amongst the brain structure and thought patterns of different genders. Differences between them tend to be highly exaggerated both by societal expectations and the commonality of social segregation between genders during youth, but studies have generally supported the existence of some average differences.

[Conscentia]

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

There has been some minor differences noted amongst the brain structure and thought patterns of different genders. Differences between them tend to be highly exaggerated both by societal expectations and the commonality of social segregation between genders during youth, but studies have generally supported the existence of some average differences.

Between different genders? Explainable through environmental causes, and because they correlate with the sexes which demonstrate sexual dimorphism in brain structure anyway.
Doesn't mean there is anything physical about genders. They are stereotypes imposed on the sexes.

[Kelinfort]

Pan male.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I'll read it then. I don't think I've ever met one.

They're an interesting albeit rather confusing topic. As a furry I feel like I have a better understanding and appreciation for them than most, but the lines between symbolism and genuine belief amongst otherkin and therians is extremely blurry at times. Most seem to identify with an animal or mythical being on either a symbolic or spiritual level rather than biological. I'll admit that during my neopagan period I did feel a spiritual connection to the animal I felt best represented me, and that even now that I have left it that the fursona I created when becoming a part of the furry fandom still holds great personal significance to me. I would not self-identify as a therian, firmly acknowledging the fictional nature of my fursona, but I do understand why people would take it further than that.

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

There has been some minor differences noted amongst the brain structure and thought patterns of different genders. Differences between them tend to be highly exaggerated both by societal expectations and the commonality of social segregation between genders during youth, but studies have generally supported the existence of some average differences.

Is that offer open to me, perchance?



^This.



They mostly reside on Dumblr and a few dedicated forums, IIRC.

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I must say I feel a kinship, but not because I identify as an elf or some other mythical creature. I'm very much a human being. But because I understand how you can feel other than human at times.

I think this sounded too strange.

That sums it up for me.

[Threlizdun]

There has been some minor differences noted amongst the brain structure and thought patterns of different genders. Differences between them tend to be highly exaggerated both by societal expectations and the commonality of social segregation between genders during youth, but studies have generally supported the existence of some average differences.

Between different genders? Explainable through environmental causes, and because they correlate with the sexes which demonstrate sexual dimorphism in brain structure anyway.
Doesn't mean there is anything physical about genders. They are stereotypes imposed on the sexes.

The structure of the brain is not correlated simply with sex, but with gender. Brain scans of transgender individuals have found their brains to appear more similar to those of the gender they identify as than to cisgender members of their own sex. There absolutely does appear to be a physical basis for gender.

[Conscentia]

Between different genders? Explainable through environmental causes, and because they correlate with the sexes which demonstrate sexual dimorphism in brain structure anyway.
Doesn't mean there is anything physical about genders. They are stereotypes imposed on the sexes.

The structure of the brain is not correlated simply with sex, but with gender. Brain scans of transgender individuals have found their brains to appear more similar to those of the gender they identify as than to cisgender members of their own sex. There absolutely does appear to be a physical basis for gender.

No, they appear more similar to those of the opposite sex. There is not brain structure associated with a particular gender, only a particular sex. Genders are then imposed onto said sexes. In a "transgender" person, they have the brain structure associated with the opposite sex. This results in the perception that the body they have is of the wrong sex, thus the rejection of the body and thus the gender stereotype associated with it.

[Murkwood]

I've literally not seen any otherkin around here.



Sex =/= gender.

>bu-but muh XY/XX chromosomes!!!elev3n1

Don't mean a damn thing in regards to gender.

>liebrul revisionism!

Whatever conspiracy theories you need to tell yourself to sleep at night, honey.

How's otherkin defined, exactly?

Insane.

See also: Wackjobs

[Farnhamia]

How's otherkin defined, exactly?

Insane.

Knock it off. You know better.

[Murkwood]

Insane.

Knock it off. You know better.

Really? I mean, if it was something else, I guess. But we can't say Otherkin, people who believe they are another species, are a little messed up in the head?

[The New Sea Territory]

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

That's a really good way of putting it.

[Farnhamia]

Knock it off. You know better.

Really? I mean, if it was something else, I guess. But we can't say Otherkin are a little messed up in the head?

No, you can't. It's as if someone asked how "neo-conservative" was defined and the answer was "Insane." It's trolling.

[Olivaero]

Genders seem to be little more than stereotypes imposed on the biological sexes.

If this were true then Gender Dysphoria wouldn't exist. A social construct is more than a stereotype.

[Murkwood]

Really? I mean, if it was something else, I guess. But we can't say Otherkin are a little messed up in the head?

No, you can't. It's as if someone asked how "neo-conservative" and the answer was "Insane." It's trolling.

I guess I see your point.

I disagree with it, but, eh, it's not a huge deal.