Your gender identity and sexual orientation?

[Valica]

Anyone else notice that cis-het is the most common in this pole, but the most common posters are of some other orientation?
If I were on the outside looking in, I'd think that NS was full of pansexual otherkin, but it seems that's not the case.

Just something strange I noticed.

[Fjormark]

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

[Ifreann]

Anyone else notice that cis-het is the most common in this pole, but the most common posters are of some other orientation?
If I were on the outside looking in, I'd think that NS was full of pansexual otherkin, but it seems that's not the case.

Just something strange I noticed.

It's probably just that you notice the pansexual otherkin, as you put it, more than the cis het people.

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You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Hey look, you didn't read your own source.

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex, that is, XX males or XY females. See, for example, XX male syndrome and androgen insensitivity syndrome. Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

[Captiotia]

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

You're confusing sex assignment and gender identity. Binary sex classification is very iffy anyway, because intersex people exist. XX and XY people with genitals and other sex characteristics you don't associate with with the "maleness" or "femaleness" you'd expect from their chromosomes.

[Valica]

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Transgender is a thing. Men who identify more with women and will become women.
Pansexual is almost the same thing as bisexual, except broader.

If we go further:

an·drog·y·nous - partly male and partly female in appearance; of indeterminate sex.
her·maph·ro·dite - a person/animal having both male and female sex organs or other sexual characteristics, either abnormally or as the natural condition.

There is no X and Y with humans. Our brains are too complex for a completely binary gender.

Gender can be anything, sex is limited. Your sex is either male, female, or hermaphrodite.
Gender is your identity, sex is your bits and pieces.

Don't be a fucking twat.

[Estenia]

I am a heterosexual male.

100% Straight Pride

[Immoren]

I am a heterosexual male.

100% Straight Pride

L-l-lewd thing to announce!

[Valica]

I am a heterosexual male.

100% Straight Pride

Usually the people who spout "straight pride" are anti-LGBT bigots or morons.
There's no need to show pride when you're the majority and not discriminated against.

The reason LGBTs show gay pride is because they are usually forced to stay hidden due to social stigmas and discrimination.
They show pride because they are letting people know they don't want to hide it and keep it a secret anymore.

So stop with your bullshit, mate.

EDIT:
Looked through your posts, you don't seem to be anti-LGBT. It actually seems to be the opposite.
I don't understand this post, though.

[Fjormark]

Transgender is a thing. Men who identify more with women and will become women.
Pansexual is almost the same thing as bisexual, except broader.

If we go further:

an·drog·y·nous - partly male and partly female in appearance; of indeterminate sex.
her·maph·ro·dite - a person/animal having both male and female sex organs or other sexual characteristics, either abnormally or as the natural condition.

There is no X and Y with humans. Our brains are too complex for a completely binary gender.

Gender can be anything, sex is limited. Your sex is either male, female, or hermaphrodite.
Gender is your identity, sex is your bits and pieces.

Don't be a fucking twat.

My point was that you are given a sex at birth, there is no gender identity outside of your sex. Just because you have a chromosomal arrangement (or that sometimes you end up as a deranged monster as a mixture of the two) that is contrary to your phenotype sex doesn't mean that everyone else can just choose whatever gender they want to be.

Just think, if you woke up one morning and decided to be the opposite gender or even both genders because you didn't feel comfortable being natural, there might be a problem with your logic right there.

I'll be whatever I want, you fucking deluded faggot.

[Valica]

Transgender is a thing. Men who identify more with women and will become women.
Pansexual is almost the same thing as bisexual, except broader.

If we go further:

an·drog·y·nous - partly male and partly female in appearance; of indeterminate sex.
her·maph·ro·dite - a person/animal having both male and female sex organs or other sexual characteristics, either abnormally or as the natural condition.

There is no X and Y with humans. Our brains are too complex for a completely binary gender.

Gender can be anything, sex is limited. Your sex is either male, female, or hermaphrodite.
Gender is your identity, sex is your bits and pieces.

Don't be a fucking twat.

My point was that you are given a sex at birth, there is no gender identity outside of your sex. Just because you have a chromosomal arrangement (or that sometimes you end up as a deranged monster as a mixture of the two) that is contrary to your phenotype sex doesn't mean that everyone else can just choose whatever gender they want to be.

Just think, if you woke up one morning and decided to be the opposite gender or even both genders because you didn't feel comfortable being natural, there might be a problem with your logic right there.

I'll be whatever I want, you fucking deluded faggot.

Sex can only change with an operation.
Gender can change at any time based on your personal feelings and preferences.

[Ifreann]

...there is no gender identity outside of your sex...

I dunno man, after you were so wrong about chromosomes I don't know if I can trust your hateful proclamations any more.

[Fjormark]

Sex can only change with an operation.
Gender can change at any time based on your personal feelings and preferences.

Sex can't change even if you have an operation, you're still genetically either male or female. Same goes with your gender, it's limited to your sex, you can't just defy what you naturally are whenever you feel like it. I'm trying to figure out the mental gymnastics you have to go through to get to your conclusions.

[Fjormark]

...there is no gender identity outside of your sex...

I dunno man, after you were so wrong about chromosomes I don't know if I can trust your hateful proclamations any more.

What? Explain to me how I was wrong. If you honestly believe that there isn't a gender outside your sex you have some problems you have to sort out.

[Valica]

Sex can only change with an operation.
Gender can change at any time based on your personal feelings and preferences.

Sex can't change even if you have an operation, you're still genetically either male or female. Same goes with your gender, it's limited to your sex, you can't just defy what you naturally are whenever you feel like it. I'm trying to figure out the mental gymnastics you have to go through to get to your conclusions.

Sex - either of the two main categories (m/f) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

There were/are medical scientists working on giving trans-people the ability to reproduce according to their bits.
By the definition of sex, you are right. But genetics have nothing to do with it. It's reproductive functions.

What are you going to say when medical science makes it possible for a MtF trans-person to bear a child?
Are you going to argue that they aren't a woman?

Then again, I could use the defense that a MtF trans-person is as much a woman as a sterile cis woman based on this definition.
But once again, the definition of sex has NOTHING to do with genetics.

You're a bigot and you're wrong.

Like Ifr said, the Wiki you linked to even supports our claims. Maybe you should go back to grade school and re-take your English and reading classes.

[Ifreann]

I dunno man, after you were so wrong about chromosomes I don't know if I can trust your hateful proclamations any more.

What? Explain to me how I was wrong.

You can't change biological facts because your brain thinks so, you're either naturally male or female and there's nothing wrong with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system

>b-but muh special snowflake gender identity!!

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Hey look, you didn't read your own source.

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex, that is, XX males or XY females. See, for example, XX male syndrome and androgen insensitivity syndrome. Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

If you honestly believe that there isn't a gender outside your sex you have some problems you have to sort out.

Just quoting this to preserve your amusing typo.

[Libertarian California]

I am a gender attracted to other genders.

Am I an oppressed snowflake yet?

[Valica]

I am a gender attracted to other genders.

Am I an oppressed snowflake yet?

You're so original and funny.
Get out.

[Libertarian California]

I am a gender attracted to other genders.

Am I an oppressed snowflake yet?

You're so original and funny.
Get out.

Don't trigger me with your oppressive language.

[Ifreann]

I am a gender attracted to other genders.

Am I an oppressed snowflake yet?

Snowflakes are usually less circular.

[Valica]

You're so original and funny.
Get out.

Don't trigger me with your oppressive language.

Nobody in here was screaming about oppression until you came in, chief.
Some people talked about how coming out was hard, which I'm sure it is.

If you don't think trans-people or non-hetero people aren't commonly discriminated against, then you must have your head up your ass.

[Fjormark]

Sex - either of the two main categories (m/f) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

They're also divided by genetics. You're arguing you can change biological facts whenever you feel like it.

There were/are medical scientists working on giving trans-people the ability to reproduce according to their bits.
By the definition of sex, you are right. But genetics have nothing to do with it. It's reproductive functions.

No, it's natural genetics. You're either male of female, I don't care what some medical 'scientists' are trying to create, it just isn't natural to think you're supposed to be the opposite sex.

What are you going to say when medical science makes it possible for a MtF trans-person to bear a child?
Are you going to argue that they aren't a woman?

Exactly, those abominations will never be considered women in my eyes.

Then again, I could use the defense that a MtF trans-person is as much a woman as a sterile cis woman based on this definition.
But once again, the definition of sex has NOTHING to do with genetics.

But it does, I literally can not think of a way you can suddenly change your gender whenever you feel like it, it just doesn't make sense.

You're a bigot and you're wrong.

I'm more logical than you, and calling me a bigot will never change facts.

[Valica]

Sex - either of the two main categories (m/f) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

They're also divided by genetics. You're arguing you can change biological facts whenever you feel like it.

There were/are medical scientists working on giving trans-people the ability to reproduce according to their bits.
By the definition of sex, you are right. But genetics have nothing to do with it. It's reproductive functions.

No, it's natural genetics. You're either male of female, I don't care what some medical 'scientists' are trying to create, it just isn't natural to think you're supposed to be the opposite sex.

What are you going to say when medical science makes it possible for a MtF trans-person to bear a child?
Are you going to argue that they aren't a woman?

Exactly, those abominations will never be considered women in my eyes.

Then again, I could use the defense that a MtF trans-person is as much a woman as a sterile cis woman based on this definition.
But once again, the definition of sex has NOTHING to do with genetics.

But it does, I literally can not think of a way you can suddenly change your gender whenever you feel like it, it just doesn't make sense.

You're a bigot and you're wrong.

I'm more logical than you, and calling me a bigot will never change facts.

That definition is THE definition of sex. Notice how the word genetics does not appear anywhere within it.

[Libertarian California]

Don't trigger me with your oppressive language.

Nobody in here was screaming about oppression until you came in, chief.
Some people talked about how coming out was hard, which I'm sure it is.

If you don't think trans-people or non-hetero people aren't commonly discriminated against, then you must have your head up your ass.

Now you're intruding into my safe space!

Stahp it.

If you don't think half of the so-called "identities" are a bunch of rubbish made up by pre-teens, then you must have your head up your ass, otherwise you're like fat-shaming me, or something.

[Fjormark]

Hey look, you didn't read your own source.

Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex, that is, XX males or XY females. See, for example, XX male syndrome and androgen insensitivity syndrome. Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[1] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

But whatever helps you sleep better at night.

Here let me just quote this again without explaining anything because that will definitely get me away from responsibility.

Just quoting this to preserve your amusing typo.

You're so smart and witty, I wish I was as much as an elitist as you.

Protip: You're watching a children's show for little girls. (I don't know why I'm even responding to someone I can't seriously)

[Immoren]

No, it's natural genetics. You're either male of female, I don't care what some medical 'scientists' are trying to create, it just isn't natural to think you're supposed to be the opposite sex.

Be definition; everything in natural world is natural.