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2016 Democratic Nomination

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Who would you vote for?

Hillary Clinton
75
35%
Joe Biden
26
12%
Bernie Sanders
48
23%
Elizabeth Warren
28
13%
Andrew Cuomo
5
2%
Howard Dean
5
2%
Martin O'Malley
6
3%
Brian Schweitzer
11
5%
Deval Patrick
3
1%
Cory Booker
6
3%
 
Total votes : 213

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Lerodan Chinamerica
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:39 am

Burleson wrote:
Othelos wrote:Why not? Freedom is a good thing.

I prefer economic freedom to freedom to commit abominations towards God

Freedom of speech and worship are fundamentally intertwined with property rights. The same goes with the freedom to injure yourself and the freedom to marry others.

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:44 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Cory Booker would be the least insane candidate. Pro-peace, anti-drug and a fiscal moderate.

Anti-drug? Aren't you a libertarian?

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Lerodan Chinamerica
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:46 am

Merizoc wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Cory Booker would be the least insane candidate. Pro-peace, anti-drug and a fiscal moderate.

Anti-drug? Aren't you a libertarian?

Sorry, I meant anti-Drug War.

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Republic of Coldwater
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Founded: Jul 08, 2013
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:09 am

Any Democrat before the Progressive Era.

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Fedenia
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Founded: Jun 20, 2013
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Postby Fedenia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:20 am

I'm not surprised that Hillary is in the first place.
Even people outside US want to vote for her :p

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MERIZoC
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Founded: Dec 05, 2013
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:22 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Anti-drug? Aren't you a libertarian?

Sorry, I meant anti-Drug War.

Ah, gotcha.

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:35 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Cory Booker would be the least insane candidate. Pro-peace, anti-Drug War and a fiscal moderate.


As I've said before, I really like Booker. He was a pretty great mayor of Newark, he's socially progressive and fiscally moderate while still supporting things like a increased minimum wage, affordablele healthcare etc.
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54e
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Postby 54e » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:23 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Cory Booker would be the least insane candidate. Pro-peace, anti-Drug War and a fiscal moderate.


As I've said before, I really like Booker. He was a pretty great mayor of Newark, he's socially progressive and fiscally moderate while still supporting things like a increased minimum wage, affordablele healthcare etc.

He's okay, but it's hard to take him seriously when he uses the word "irregardless" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6aHG5aW70

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Atlanticatia
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Founded: Mar 01, 2014
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Postby Atlanticatia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:40 am

54e wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
As I've said before, I really like Booker. He was a pretty great mayor of Newark, he's socially progressive and fiscally moderate while still supporting things like a increased minimum wage, affordablele healthcare etc.

He's okay, but it's hard to take him seriously when he uses the word "irregardless" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6aHG5aW70


Eh, people elected George Bush twice.
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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:43 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
54e wrote:He's okay, but it's hard to take him seriously when he uses the word "irregardless" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6aHG5aW70


Eh, people elected George Bush twice.


Well, the electoral college did. In 2000, the people chose Gore.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:02 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
54e wrote:He's okay, but it's hard to take him seriously when he uses the word "irregardless" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6aHG5aW70


Eh, people elected George Bush twice.

"I believe man and fish can coexist peacefully"

"And Karen is with us, a West Texas girl, just like me"

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."

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The Re-Frisivisiaing
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Founded: Apr 15, 2014
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Postby The Re-Frisivisiaing » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:03 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
Eh, people elected George Bush twice.


Well, the electoral college did. In 2000, the people chose Gore.

The electoral college didn't either, Gore won Florida.
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Murkwood
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Postby Murkwood » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:12 pm

David Palmer.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o

Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

Catholicism has the fullness of the splendor of truth: The Bible and the Church Fathers agree!

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Captain Apollo
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Founded: Nov 08, 2011
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Postby Captain Apollo » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:59 pm

Clinton seems to be the one to beat. :P

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:32 pm

The Re-Frisivisiaing wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Well, the electoral college did. In 2000, the people chose Gore.

The electoral college didn't either, Gore won Florida.


According to the Supreme Court, Bush won Florida, but that's a whole other topic.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:51 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Re-Frisivisiaing wrote:The electoral college didn't either, Gore won Florida.


According to the Supreme Court, Bush won Florida, but that's a whole other topic.

Well, SCOTUS is basically a bunch of partisan hacks who should in no way be deciding the results of an election…. :p

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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:52 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
According to the Supreme Court, Bush won Florida, but that's a whole other topic.

Well, SCOTUS is basically a bunch of partisan hacks who should in no way be deciding the results of an election…. :p

SCOTUS had to because of the legal controversy involved.
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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:52 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
According to the Supreme Court, Bush won Florida, but that's a whole other topic.

Well, SCOTUS is basically a bunch of partisan hacks who should in no way be deciding the results of an election…. :p


Well, they're biased, and I don't believe having SCOTUS decide elections is democratic and sensible, but by definition, Bush "won" Florida.
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Political Stuff I Wrote
Why Pinochet and Allende were both terrible
The UKIP: A Bad Choice for Britain
Why South Africa is in a sorry state, and how it can be fixed.
Massive List of My OOC Pros and Cons
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Atlanticatia
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Postby Atlanticatia » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:02 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:
Eh, people elected George Bush twice.

"I believe man and fish can coexist peacefully"

"And Karen is with us, a West Texas girl, just like me"

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test."

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... _hits.html

This is my favorite article ever

to be honest Bush was so entertaining..
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California Prime
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Postby California Prime » Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:51 pm

I'll vote for any of them

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Wilkshire
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Wilkshire » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:24 am

Al Gore

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Magna Libero
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Founded: Jun 13, 2013
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Postby Magna Libero » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:15 am

I don't know, but I guess Hillary is the worst of them all. She's probably the most evil and most authoritarian of them all, atleast her warhawkish foreign policy sucks imperialism. So, she's basically a neocon?
hi

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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:20 am

Magna Libero wrote:I don't know, but I guess Hillary is the worst of them all. She's probably the most evil and most authoritarian of them all, atleast her warhawkish foreign policy sucks imperialism. So, she's basically a neocon?

no

she basically believes in intervention more than the president does.
whatever

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George Smiley II
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Founded: Aug 14, 2014
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Postby George Smiley II » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:45 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Cory Booker would be the least insane candidate. Pro-peace, anti-Drug War and a fiscal moderate.


As I've said before, I really like Booker. He was a pretty great mayor of Newark, he's socially progressive and fiscally moderate while still supporting things like a increased minimum wage, affordablele healthcare etc.


The problem is Booker is nationally unknown. And we are coming up on 2015 very quickly.

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George Smiley II
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Postby George Smiley II » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:46 am

Magna Libero wrote:I don't know, but I guess Hillary is the worst of them all. She's probably the most evil and most authoritarian of them all, atleast her warhawkish foreign policy sucks imperialism. So, she's basically a neocon?


What are you talking about?

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