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by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:53 am

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:54 am
Meridiani Planum wrote:I'm not from New Zealand.
ACT was highest for me with 85%, the runaway winner!
I had no idea what the ACT party is. When I went to Wikipedia just after taking the test, I liked what I saw.

by AiliailiA » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:59 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:"Where's my immortality?" will be the new "Where's my jetpack?"
Maineiacs wrote:"We're going to build a canal, and we're going to make Columbia pay for it!" -- Teddy Roosevelt
Ifreann wrote:That's not a Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is when you say one thing and mean your mother.
by Meridiani Planum » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:01 am
Costa Fierro wrote:Did you miss the part about it's only MP being arrested and convicted of electoral fraud?


by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:04 am
Costa Fierro wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:The bar graph gave me near identical percentages for Lab, UF and NP. The weighted results put me next to New Zealand First.
I don't know anything about your politics, but it's probably because I support the continued repression of the sheep and Hobbitses.
You also apparently feel comfortable around decomposing bodies and hate Chinese people/foreigners in general.


by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:09 am
Ailiailia wrote:"Somewhat disagree" to banning it. But I also put a very light weighting (2/10) on that section.
I'm not for no restrictions at all. I think all sales over a certain amount (say, a typical house price) should be approved or rejected individually, by a statutory authority preferably but the Minister's office would be acceptable too.
It's not that foreign buyers are worse than domestic agribusinesses. What concerns me is the possibility of an entire industry like dairy being monopolized and it's harder to see that coming if the buyers are from somewhere like China where the money trail is murky at best.
By the way, how much money IS the government spending to rebuild Christchurch? That's a question I had to answer Don't Know to.

by Patistan » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:09 am

by Tsaraine » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:09 am
Ailiailia wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:
What did you say with regards to the sale of farms to foreign buyers?
"Somewhat disagree" to banning it. But I also put a very light weighting (2/10) on that section.
I'm not for no restrictions at all. I think all sales over a certain amount (say, a typical house price) should be approved or rejected individually, by a statutory authority preferably but the Minister's office would be acceptable too. It's not that foreign buyers are worse than domestic agribusinesses. What concerns me is the possibility of an entire industry like dairy being monopolized and it's harder to see that coming if the buyers are from somewhere like China where the money trail is murky at best.
By the way, how much money IS the government spending to rebuild Christchurch? That's a question I had to answer Don't Know to.

by Risottia » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:11 am
Costa Fierro wrote:Risottia wrote:
I'd vote Labour because ethnical/regional parties suck (Lega Nord, anyone?), and because Greens are too connected to Greenpeace for my tastes.
The Greens are actually very much a mainstream party these days. Their economic policies are very much driven towards investment and funding of information technology R&D as well as a number of other things, including a state run for profit investment bank and huge investments in NZ's shitty transport system. All of the hippies that the party used to be associated with are now dead, retired or moved to other parties.

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:14 am
Meridiani Planum wrote::hug:Costa Fierro wrote:Did you miss the part about it's only MP being arrested and convicted of electoral fraud?
That does suck, yeah. Fraud should only be handled by the professionals in the larger parties!
I would hope that they would learn from their mistake and run more honest candidates in the future.
Tsaraine wrote:As for dairy being monopolized ... it pretty much is - the dairy farmers' cartel, Fonterra, controls enough of the dairy supply to basically set its own prices.
And I think the privatization of infrastructure is a bad, bad idea - particularly in the case of NZ Rail, where privatization in the 1980s has essentially led to the stagnation and decay of the rail network, and the demise of passenger rail almost entirely.

by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:22 am
by Tatooene » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:26 am
by Meridiani Planum » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:41 am
Costa Fierro wrote:ACT is pretty much a minority party anyway that leeches onto the National Party for voting support in Parliament.

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:49 am
Meridiani Planum wrote:Would you prefer the sort of system that America has where only two parties are in the legislature?
I love the idea of minor parties. They give principled people a chance to vote for principle and have that be noticed. I don't see a problem with minor parties cooperating with major parties where they have some basis for an alliance.

by Forsher » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:14 am
Meridiani Planum wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:ACT is pretty much a minority party anyway that leeches onto the National Party for voting support in Parliament.
Would you prefer the sort of system that America has where only two parties are in the legislature?
I love the idea of minor parties. They give principled people a chance to vote for principle and have that be noticed. I don't see a problem with minor parties cooperating with major parties where they have some basis for an alliance.
Costa Fierro wrote:Forsher wrote:Naturally the reason why there is actual opposition to the idea is xenophobia or, in many/most cases, plain old racism.
Hit the nail on the head. It's pretty much the same kneejerk racism that permeates NZ society when it comes to these sorts of things and it's absolute bullshit. It's the same thing with Labour's proposal to limit immigration and prevent foreigners from buying houses. Kneejerk racism. No logic. No foundation. Just desperate kneejerk populism.
The whole reason the property market has exploded was not because of a lack of housing (a lie essentially invented by the media and turned into a circus by the politicians) but because people did not have any faith in the finance companies and so turned to property as a safe investment. That meant that more and more people were buying houses which increased housing prices. If the government introduced a capital gains tax and sorted out the regulations of the finance company market rather than building more houses, faith would be restored and the property market would return to those actually investing in a house to own or rental properties.
Costa Fierro wrote:There was that "Pakeha Party" that received some attention earlier in the year, although I can't remember whether or not it was a massive piss-take or a serious party.
Tsaraine wrote:Personally, I'm less concerned with foreign ownership of land than I am with Keys' increasingly cozy relationship with foreign industry (I'd also be concerned about his cozy relationship with domestic industry). And I think the privatization of infrastructure is a bad, bad idea - particularly in the case of NZ Rail, where privatization in the 1980s has essentially led to the stagnation and decay of the rail network, and the demise of passenger rail almost entirely.

by Constantinopolis » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:49 am

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:56 am
Constantinopolis wrote:Green 82%
Māori Party 78%
New Zealand First 72%
Labour 72%
I guess this is what happens when there are no socialist or communist parties on the list for me to match with.

by Magna Libero » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:56 am

by Constantinopolis » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:00 am
Costa Fierro wrote:Mana is about as far left on the political spectrum as you can get with political representation. New Zealand does have communist parties but they are very, very small.

by Lenciland » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:08 am
Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:22 am
Constantinopolis wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:Mana is about as far left on the political spectrum as you can get with political representation. New Zealand does have communist parties but they are very, very small.
I edited my results after you quoted them, because I had initially mistaken Māori with Mana (it was Mana that came second on my results, not Māori), and I had initially posted the numbers for the unweighted results. With the weighted results, my results show the same parties in the same order, but the percentage matches are a little different.
Anyway, that doesn't change anything. If Mana is indeed the furthest left party with political representation, it's strange that it was only my second match. Especially in the weighted results, which should have taken account of the fact that I care about left-wing economic issues far more than about the environment.

by Southern Babylonia » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:24 am

by Socialist Tera » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:36 am

by Costa Fierro » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:45 am
Socialist Tera wrote:I got Green but I would most likely vote for a Marxist-Leninist party.
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