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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:36 pm

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Kelinfort wrote:Oh yes, 39.6% is so awful if you make over $250,000. Why, you might just have to go homeless!

Not $250,000. $400,000. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/31/irs-announces-2014-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/


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Postby Geilinor » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:36 pm

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Also not considering it is 40 cents on every dollar beyond 250,000 I think?


Yes. Say a person makes $250,001 a year and the cutoff is 250,000. The first 250,000 would be taxed at the lower rate, while the $1 would be taxed at the higher rate.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/31/irs-announces-2014-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/
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Postby Timsvill » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:38 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Timsvill wrote:Look at obama taxing the pants off the rich! Look at new york and them being a blue state! Do the citizens have shot guns? No! They can't be sold! The police only have shot guns! The mag amount is low to where you can only have a crappy pistole and can't go hunt! We don't want that in texas!


New York and Texas have been very different in terms of culture, so I am not surprised guns are more legislated against in there than down here if this is true.

Heck, Dallas is a blue county and we don't have major city restrictions.

Sadly dallas is blue. I live in Tarrant county and we're a red county.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:38 pm

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Obama taxing the pants of the rich, source that right now. What about New York? What the hell are you talking about? It is illegal to preent the sale of all guns, so you are spouting BS right now. I am sure you can't hunt in places like NYC, since NYC is very, very crowded. But then New York is a big state, so I am sure there are places you can hunt.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/ ... ew_gu.html


Your source really doesn't support you at all. It states that guns with prohibited featrues cannot be sold, but that previous guns may be kept. They need to be registered. The magazine thing was to ensure that people would have to change the magazine more often, thus increasing the chance of people surviving mass shootings.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:39 pm

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Yes. Say a person makes $250,001 a year and the cutoff is 250,000. The first 250,000 would be taxed at the lower rate, while the $1 would be taxed at the higher rate.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/31/irs-announces-2014-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/


Thanks for the correction.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:40 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:How is it that someone on the other side of the world picks this up quicker than those in 'Mericuh?

AUSTIN, Texas — Texas Gov. Rick Perry has been indicted for abuse of power after carrying out a threat to veto funding for state public corruption prosecutors.

The Republican governor is accused of abusing his official powers by publicly promising to veto $7.5 million for the state public integrity unit at the Travis County District Attorney’s office.

He was indicted by an Austin grand jury Friday.

Perry said he’d veto the funding if the district attorney, Rosemary Lehmberg, didn’t resign. Lehmberg had recently been convicted of drunken driving. The state’s Public Integrity Unit operates out of her office.

When Lehmberg refused, Perry carried out his veto, drawing an ethics complaint.


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Everyone's favorite governor has been charged with abuse of power. I have no idea how the American justice system and laws work so I'll just say "bad governor, bad" and pretend to squirt him in the face with a water bottle.

So, NSG. Is your favorite Texan getting what he deserves?


So lets apply this to Obama, if he vetoed something the Republicans can indict him for abuse of power ?

I am sorry trying to boot a Governor for using a discretionary power rather far fetched. Normally when I think of abuse of power I think of a crime committed done in an official capacity.

This appears to be the statute covering the indictment. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.39.htm

Really does not seem Governor Perry has been alleged to violate anything there.
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Your source really doesn't support you at all. It states that guns with prohibited featrues cannot be sold, but that previous guns may be kept. They need to be registered. The magazine thing was to ensure that people would have to change the magazine more often, thus increasing the chance of people surviving mass shootings.

Still, new york has a gun law restricting the amount of magazine. In texas, that won't fly! I know I sound like a idiot for saying that!
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Your source really doesn't support you at all. It states that guns with prohibited featrues cannot be sold, but that previous guns may be kept. They need to be registered. The magazine thing was to ensure that people would have to change the magazine more often, thus increasing the chance of people surviving mass shootings.

Still, new york has a gun law restricting the amount of magazine. In texas, that won't fly! I know I sound like a idiot for saying that!

May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:42 pm

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Your source really doesn't support you at all. It states that guns with prohibited featrues cannot be sold, but that previous guns may be kept. They need to be registered. The magazine thing was to ensure that people would have to change the magazine more often, thus increasing the chance of people surviving mass shootings.

Still, new york has a gun law restricting the amount of magazine. In texas, that won't fly! I know I sound like a idiot for saying that!


And? New York is not Texas. New York Democrats are not Texas Democrats.
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Timsvill wrote:Still, new york has a gun law restricting the amount of magazine. In texas, that won't fly! I know I sound like a idiot for saying that!

May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?


The poster claimed that inditing Perry would somehow harm Texas, when asked to explain he said it would make Texas more likely to be Democratic. At which point we were left wondering why this person feels that is a bad thing and how that would harm Texas.
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Timsvill wrote:Still, new york has a gun law restricting the amount of magazine. In texas, that won't fly! I know I sound like a idiot for saying that!

May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?

I don't know! It went from talk about texas may going blue to gun laws in new york and texas!
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Corvus Metallum wrote:May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?

I don't know! It went from talk about texas may going blue to gun laws in new york and texas!


You should know, as you were the one who brought up gun laws and the like.
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Corvus Metallum wrote:May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?

I don't know! It went from talk about texas may going blue to gun laws in new york and texas!


You were the one that brought it up. You claimed that somehow Perry being indicted would turn Texas blue, which is a bad thing since it would somehow affect gun laws in Texas because of laws in New York. You also stated that a blue Texas would somehow change the culture of Texas.
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Corvus Metallum wrote:May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?


The poster claimed that inditing Perry would somehow harm Texas, when asked to explain he said it would make Texas more likely to be Democratic. At which point we were left wondering why this person feels that is a bad thing and how that would harm Texas.

People think texas is already crazy! And that if perry gets indicted, that will fuel the flames of "Texas is crazy and is weird and have bad politicians! We don't like that state!"
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The poster claimed that inditing Perry would somehow harm Texas, when asked to explain he said it would make Texas more likely to be Democratic. At which point we were left wondering why this person feels that is a bad thing and how that would harm Texas.

People think texas is already crazy! And that if perry gets indicted, that will fuel the flames of "Texas is crazy and is weird and have bad politicians! We don't like that state!"


Perry already created that impression before he was indicted. Your school board and textbooks didn't help on that impression. I would say that his being indicted shows that Texas justice at least partially still works.
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Timsvill wrote:I don't know! It went from talk about texas may going blue to gun laws in new york and texas!


You were the one that brought it up. You claimed that somehow Perry being indicted would turn Texas blue, which is a bad thing since it would somehow affect gun laws in Texas because of laws in New York. You also stated that a blue Texas would somehow change the culture of Texas.

I was making a point that if we get a democrat governor! He (or she) may do some type of gun ban, so I was comparing that to what new york did.
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Corvus Metallum wrote:May I ask what the gun law argument is about, or how it has any relevance to the thread topic?


The poster claimed that inditing Perry would somehow harm Texas, when asked to explain he said it would make Texas more likely to be Democratic.

Mhm... Well, on the topic of guns, even if Texas were to become a Blue state, I doubt our guns would be going anywhere.

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The poster claimed that inditing Perry would somehow harm Texas, when asked to explain he said it would make Texas more likely to be Democratic. At which point we were left wondering why this person feels that is a bad thing and how that would harm Texas.

People think texas is already crazy! And that if perry gets indicted, that will fuel the flames of "Texas is crazy and is weird and have bad politicians! We don't like that state!"


Such a impression already exists. Texas is known for being a crazy, far right state thanks to Perry and other people in your state. If you don't want such an impression to exist, don't let your state elect an incompetent extremist like Perry.
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Timsvill wrote:People think texas is already crazy! And that if perry gets indicted, that will fuel the flames of "Texas is crazy and is weird and have bad politicians! We don't like that state!"


Such a impression already exists. Texas is known for being a crazy, far right state thanks to Perry and other people in your state. If you don't want such an impression to exist, don't let your state elect an incompetent extremist like Perry.

Unfortunately, I have to live with that stereotype, and I have to wait until next year to change anything about it. :unsure:

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You were the one that brought it up. You claimed that somehow Perry being indicted would turn Texas blue, which is a bad thing since it would somehow affect gun laws in Texas because of laws in New York. You also stated that a blue Texas would somehow change the culture of Texas.

I was making a point that if we get a democrat governor! He (or she) may do some type of gun ban, so I was comparing that to what new york did.


Basically you are comparing apples to bacon for no reason whatsoever. New York and Texas are very different states with very different situations. What makes sense in Texas does not make sense in places like NYC. The people are also very different. I very much doubt a Democrat in Texas would attempt to do what Democrats in New York do.
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Such a impression already exists. Texas is known for being a crazy, far right state thanks to Perry and other people in your state. If you don't want such an impression to exist, don't let your state elect an incompetent extremist like Perry.

Unfortunately, I have to live with that stereotype, and I have to wait until next year to change anything about it. :unsure:


It stinks that you have to live with such a stereotype. I know plenty of Texans, including Texans who vote GOP, who rational, kind people. Unfortunately, thanks to politicians like Perry, and a crapton of Texans who spout intolerance, Texans are viewed as intolerant.
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Timsvill wrote:I was making a point that if we get a democrat governor! He (or she) may do some type of gun ban, so I was comparing that to what new york did.


Basically you are comparing apples to bacon for no reason whatsoever. New York and Texas are very different states with very different situations. What makes sense in Texas does not make sense in places like NYC. The people are also very different. I very much doubt a Democrat in Texas would attempt to do what Democrats in New York do.

I'm a stupid republican texan! So sue me!
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:51 pm

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You were the one that brought it up. You claimed that somehow Perry being indicted would turn Texas blue, which is a bad thing since it would somehow affect gun laws in Texas because of laws in New York. You also stated that a blue Texas would somehow change the culture of Texas.

I was making a point that if we get a democrat governor! He (or she) may do some type of gun ban, so I was comparing that to what new york did.

The Governor of Texas doesn't have that kind of power. It would take a large Democratic majority in the legislature to do that.
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Basically you are comparing apples to bacon for no reason whatsoever. New York and Texas are very different states with very different situations. What makes sense in Texas does not make sense in places like NYC. The people are also very different. I very much doubt a Democrat in Texas would attempt to do what Democrats in New York do.

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