Woman finds a Nazi symbol in her chicken sandwich.

[Calisu]

Symbol of Peace for thousands of years
Symbol of Hate for 3 decades


Clearly a symbol of hate.

[The Land of Truth]

So, you're saying that you think we should be able to use the Swastika because Jews are filthy rats and deserve to die?

See? I can build straw-men, too.

How cute.

No i say that we should be able to use the swastika because of its countless use outside of one situation and the ridiculousness of the amounts of social stigma it gets despite having a double standard about other symbols, and trying to constantly hang onto the past for no reason. The Fire arm has killed countless people, same with the sword, but we don't consider them evil things that are only to be associated with blood thirsty people with no respect for life.

So, no word about the fact that you constructed a straw-man?

[The Grey Wolf]

That's not my decision, that's my opinion.

And that's my opinion on your opinion.

You're a piss poor debater, aren't you?

[The Land of Truth]

Symbol of Peace for thousands of years
Symbol of Hate for 3 decades


Clearly a symbol of hate.

Yes. Because, as I've mentioned earlier in this thread, symbols do not have a system of karma. A symbol's meaning is not directly proportional to how long it's had that meaning.

[The Land of Truth]

And that's my opinion on your opinion.

You're a piss poor debater, aren't you?

Non sequitur.

[The Black Forrest]

No shit. Would you like to write out that list? Because I'm sure as hell not going to.

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika according to your last post this is entirely offensive because it doesn't confirm to the "American standard"

And what American Standard is that?

The Hindu in the US are careful with the use of it simply because they understand the Nazi history and for many it was only a generation or two back for relatives who fought or were victims of the Nazis......

[Atelia]

How cute.

No i say that we should be able to use the swastika because of its countless use outside of one situation and the ridiculousness of the amounts of social stigma it gets despite having a double standard about other symbols, and trying to constantly hang onto the past for no reason. The Fire arm has killed countless people, same with the sword, but we don't consider them evil things that are only to be associated with blood thirsty people with no respect for life.

So, no word about the fact that you constructed a straw-man?

So, no word about the fact that I wrote a response and you decided to try to change the subject?

[Freiheit Reich]

(1)Is a photo of the sun offensive as well because it was used by the Japanese military in WW2 (a very brutal military that raped and killed thousands), (2)should we say that the sun is always an evil symbol from now on? (3)Who decides these rules?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Sun_Flag

1) Because that's not how symbols work? Considering the worst the Japanese did to the US was a surprise attack that didn't even do the level of damage it was supposed to, most Americans don't even recognize the Rising Sun Flag. I mean, you might have a point if this were China or Korea or somewhere along those lines, but it's not.

2) No, because that's asinine and you know it.

3) Our culture and society. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

What did the Nazis do to Americans other than killing thousands of US soldiers (which the Japanese military did as well). Are you thinking from a global point of view or an American point of view?

1) You dislike the swastika because the Nazis used it as their symbol and the Nazis killed millions of non-American Jews and this should be a concern in the USA.
2) You think the rising sun symbol is OK because relatively few Americans were killed by the Japanese army during WW2. The fact they killed many thousands of people without justification in Asia is not something worth considering in the USA.

Are you implying the lives of European Jews, communists, and gypsies were more valuable than the lives of Korean and Chinese citizens? You should hate both symbols equally and want to fire anybody who dares to use either of these symbols on a sandwich bun that few people would even notice.

[Calisu]

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika according to your last post this is entirely offensive because it doesn't confirm to the "American standard"

And what American Standard is that?

The Hindu in the US are careful with the use of it simply because they understand the Nazi history and for many it was only a generation or two back for relatives who fought or were victims of the Nazis......

Source please

[The Black Forrest]

Symbol of Peace for thousands of years
Symbol of Hate for 3 decades


Clearly a symbol of hate.

Relatively unknown symbol for four hundred years. Known symbol for seven decades.

Understand why people don't like it?

[The Land of Truth]

So, no word about the fact that you constructed a straw-man?

So, no word about the fact that I wrote a response and you decided to try to change the subject?

That's what I thought. (Don't use logical fallacies if you're not willing to own up to them when called.)

As to your response:

1) Well, isn't that sweet of you.
2) Speak for yourself.

[The Black Forrest]

And what American Standard is that?

The Hindu in the US are careful with the use of it simply because they understand the Nazi history and for many it was only a generation or two back for relatives who fought or were victims of the Nazis......

Source please

Anecdotal.

Care to prove me wrong? Seriously. I am IT and work with a great many people and they don't sport the image in public.........

[Royal Hindustan]

I am a Hindu in America and yes we do use the Swastik symbol because it is a religious. Qwe lie n a predominantly white neighbourhood. You know why we don't have problems, cause the people around us aren't ignorant bastards.

[Uelvan]

Symbol of Peace for thousands of years
Symbol of Hate for 3 decades


Clearly a symbol of hate.

It doesn't matter how long it's been a symbol of peace. It's been used as the symbol of genocide, in which there are living survivors of today and direct descendants of who will be highly offended by it. It is also used by Neo-Nazis in the west more so than it is used in its proper and ancient meaning. People like Neo-Nazis and holocaust deniers, actively use the symbol to display their hatred today, and unfortunately for Jains, Buddhists, Hindus, and other people like that, they hold a greater sway on the culture of South Carolina and generally America. If I were a teacher, and I drew a dick on my whiteboard in front of a bunch of 3rd graders that would be inappropriate even if I said "BUT THE PAGANS OF THE BRONZE AGE VIEWED IT AS A GOOD LUCK SYMBOL!"

[Calisu]

Source please

Anecdotal.

Care to prove me wrong? Seriously. I am IT and work with a great many people and they don't sport the image in public.........

Ehm

I am a Hindu in America and yes we do use the Swastik symbol because it is a religious. Qwe lie n a predominantly white neighbourhood. You know why we don't have problems, cause the people around us aren't ignorant bastards.

[Tekania]

No shit. Would you like to write out that list? Because I'm sure as hell not going to.

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika according to your last post this is entirely offensive because it doesn't confirm to the "American standard"

Someone marking a swastika on their car as part of a personal religious viewpoint or ceremony... or marking someone else car in such for the same reason of the owners beliefs.... acceptable

Someone market a symbol of such onto someone else property..... not acceptable.

Let's take a cross for example. It's a perfectly good symbol to erect..... but if I erect one in the front yard of a local african american couple and set it on fire.... it would not be an acceptable act.

I'm really not sure why this concept is difficult for some to grasp.

[The Land of Truth]

1) Because that's not how symbols work? Considering the worst the Japanese did to the US was a surprise attack that didn't even do the level of damage it was supposed to, most Americans don't even recognize the Rising Sun Flag. I mean, you might have a point if this were China or Korea or somewhere along those lines, but it's not.

2) No, because that's asinine and you know it.

3) Our culture and society. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

What did the Nazis do to Americans other than killing thousands of US soldiers (which the Japanese military did as well). Are you thinking from a global point of view or an American point of view?

1) You dislike the swastika because the Nazis used it as their symbol and the Nazis killed millions of non-American Jews and this should be a concern in the USA.
2) You think the rising sun symbol is OK because relatively few Americans were killed by the Japanese army during WW2. The fact they killed many thousands of people without justification in Asia is not something worth considering in the USA.

Are you implying the lives of European Jews, communists, and gypsies were more valuable than the lives of Korean and Chinese citizens? You should hate both symbols equally and want to fire anybody who dares to use either of these symbols on a sandwich bun that few people would even notice.

You mean, other than the fact that the US has one of the highest Jewish populations in the world? That might have something to do with it... (Just sayin')

1) You are aware that the Nazis didn't kill just Jews, right? And that, as I've pointed out, the US has one of the world's highest Jewish populations?
2) Please, quote me where I said any of this.

Quit building straw-men.

[Calisu]

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika according to your last post this is entirely offensive because it doesn't confirm to the "American standard"

Someone marking a swastika on their car as part of a personal religious viewpoint or ceremony... or marking someone else car in such for the same reason of the owners beliefs.... acceptable

Someone market a symbol of such onto someone else property..... not acceptable.

Let's take a cross for example. It's a perfectly good symbol to erect..... but if I erect one in the front yard of a local african american couple and set it on fire.... it would not be an acceptable act.

I'm really not sure why this concept is difficult for some to grasp.

a burning cross is a completely different symbol from a cross

[The Black Forrest]

I am a Hindu in America and yes we do use the Swastik symbol because it is a religious. Qwe lie n a predominantly white neighbourhood. You know why we don't have problems, cause the people around us aren't ignorant bastards.

Interesting. Where do you live? And how is it displayed? Could be I missed it.

[The Land of Truth]

Someone marking a swastika on their car as part of a personal religious viewpoint or ceremony... or marking someone else car in such for the same reason of the owners beliefs.... acceptable

Someone market a symbol of such onto someone else property..... not acceptable.

Let's take a cross for example. It's a perfectly good symbol to erect..... but if I erect one in the front yard of a local african american couple and set it on fire.... it would not be an acceptable act.

I'm really not sure why this concept is difficult for some to grasp.

a burning cross is a completely different symbol from a cross

Which fits perfectly with what he said.

[The Black Forrest]

Anecdotal.

Care to prove me wrong? Seriously. I am IT and work with a great many people and they don't sport the image in public.........

The question was too you. As mentioned; I don't see it.....

[Calisu]

a burning cross is a completely different symbol from a cross

Which fits perfectly with what he said.

How? There is only one swastika there are two crosses in that post.

[Calisu]

The question was too you. As mentioned; I don't see it.....

Anecdotal

[The Land of Truth]

I am a Hindu in America and yes we do use the Swastik symbol because it is a religious. Qwe lie n a predominantly white neighbourhood. You know why we don't have problems, cause the people around us aren't ignorant bastards.

Interesting. Where do you live? And how is it displayed? Could be I missed it.

Frankly, it doesn't matter, because it's an anecdote that has nothing to do with public consciousness at-large.

[Tekania]

Someone marking a swastika on their car as part of a personal religious viewpoint or ceremony... or marking someone else car in such for the same reason of the owners beliefs.... acceptable

Someone market a symbol of such onto someone else property..... not acceptable.

Let's take a cross for example. It's a perfectly good symbol to erect..... but if I erect one in the front yard of a local african american couple and set it on fire.... it would not be an acceptable act.

I'm really not sure why this concept is difficult for some to grasp.

a burning cross is a completely different symbol from a cross

And a swastika being drawn by a now out-of-work punk in a fast food joint on a bun, is a different symbol than a Hindu marking their car with a small swastica symbol in tumeric powder.

This is really not a difficult concept.