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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:54 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In which case you fire him for using the worst possible method to wish a customer good luck, short of chopping off a rabbit's foot in front of them.

I understand that you might want to automatically support someone who uses a Swastika, but it's really inexcusable in this case.


Why is it bad? It is a symbol of good luck. The swastika is an innocent symbol. Would the lady also complain if there was a smiley face on her bun?

The swastika hasn't been an innocent symbol since the 1930s. You know that, everyone knows that. It's perhaps regrettable but the Nazis ruined it for everyone.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:55 am

Atelia wrote:Swastika =/= Nazi symbol, even then it was pretty funny, and most certainly not something someone should get fired over in the slightest.

But the problem is that there are jewish people who work there or eat there, and if they saw a Swastika in a bun, they would sue them in an instant.
Im not saying that the girl who got it was jewish, i'm just saying that if this becomes wide spread... places like Mcdonalds or Burger king will go out of buisness because they lost about more then a dozen thousand customers.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Calisu wrote:They work at McDonald's do you really judge society based on McDonald's employees?

Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.


Atelia wrote:Swastika =/= Nazi symbol,

Yes it is.
even then it was pretty funny,

No it wasn't.
and most certainly not something someone should get fired over in the slightest.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism. Whether it was funny or not depends on the person. I don't find it particularly humorous, but someone else might and that's ok.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:57 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In which case you fire him for using the worst possible method to wish a customer good luck, short of chopping off a rabbit's foot in front of them.

I understand that you might want to automatically support someone who uses a Swastika, but it's really inexcusable in this case.


Why is it bad? It is a symbol of good luck. The swastika is an innocent symbol. Would the lady also complain if there was a smiley face on her bun?

I'm afraid I can't recommend you pursue a career in acting if this attempt to seem ignorant is representative of your talents.


Calisu wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.



Yes it is.

No it wasn't.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

Yeah maybe you should read up on the swastika cause you clearly don't know what you're talking about

I'm well aware that it has been used by various other people before the Nazis. None the less it is a Nazis symbol, because they Nazis used it, and everyone knows the Nazis used it.

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Postby Louis Blackwell » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:58 am

Kratu wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Clearly, it's a sign from god.

No its obviously Hitler speaking from the other side.


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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:58 am

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.



Yes it is.

No it wasn't.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism. Whether it was funny or not depends on the person. I don't find it particularly humorous, but someone else might and that's ok.

Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?
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Postby Atelia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Calisu wrote:They work at McDonald's do you really judge society based on McDonald's employees?

Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.


Atelia wrote:Swastika =/= Nazi symbol,

Yes it is.
even then it was pretty funny,

No it wasn't.
and most certainly not something someone should get fired over in the slightest.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

No it isn't.
Yes it was.
No it isn't.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:59 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism. Whether it was funny or not depends on the person. I don't find it particularly humorous, but someone else might and that's ok.

Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?
Maybe you should improve the education in your country so that the world can stop hanging onto the horribleness of WWII?

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:59 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism. Whether it was funny or not depends on the person. I don't find it particularly humorous, but someone else might and that's ok.

Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?

The first thing i think of when i see a swastika is Pan-Slavism, actually.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:00 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism. Whether it was funny or not depends on the person. I don't find it particularly humorous, but someone else might and that's ok.

Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?


Depends where they are from IMO, westerners will always think of National Socialism but someone from say, India might think of it's other meanings first.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:00 am

Louis Blackwell wrote:
Kratu wrote:No its obviously Hitler speaking from the other side.


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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:02 am

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.



Yes it is.

No it wasn't.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.

No, but I bet they have a "No pissing off the customers" policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism.

Yes it does, and these attempts to deny that are just pathetic.

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Postby Abserdia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:02 am

Louis Blackwell wrote:
Kratu wrote:No its obviously Hitler speaking from the other side.


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If that's a joke, you should stop going on NS, if that isnt... Then go away from everything.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:03 am

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?

The first thing i think of when i see a swastika is Pan-Slavism, actually.

Of course you do.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:03 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Why is it bad? It is a symbol of good luck. The swastika is an innocent symbol. Would the lady also complain if there was a smiley face on her bun?

The swastika hasn't been an innocent symbol since the 1930s. You know that, everyone knows that. It's perhaps regrettable but the Nazis ruined it for everyone.


Not true, it is still common to see on Asian temples.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?


Depends where they are from IMO, westerners will always think of National Socialism but someone from say, India might think of it's other meanings first.

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:05 am

Calisu wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Depends where they are from IMO, westerners will always think of National Socialism but someone from say, India might think of it's other meanings first.

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika


Well that's.. a bit odd :p
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:05 am

Atelia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Of course not. Where did you get that idea? I haven't said anything about society.



Yes it is.

No it wasn't.

It absolutely was a firing offence.

So that's 0/3.

No it isn't.
Yes it was.
No it isn't.
See how easy it is to counter an argument without backing it up? Your opinion is just that, don't make it out to be "The Only Truth".

Why would I back anything up when what I am deny was not itself backed up? What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.


Calisu wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?
Maybe you should improve the education in your country so that the world can stop hanging onto the horribleness of WWII?

Farnhamia doesn't actually control the US education system. Though not for want of trying.


Great Kleomentia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Are you honestly saying that the first thing an average person would think of when shown a swastika is not Nazi Germany? You can say that with a straight face?

The first thing i think of when i see a swastika is Pan-Slavism, actually.

Bullshit.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:05 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The swastika hasn't been an innocent symbol since the 1930s. You know that, everyone knows that. It's perhaps regrettable but the Nazis ruined it for everyone.


Not true, it is still common to see on Asian temples.

Old ones. I daresay that there might be some hesitation these days about the symbol. Anyway, we're talking about North Carolina, not Uttar Pradesh. In a Western context, you're wrong, that kid was a twit and firing him was perfectly justifiable.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:05 am

Abserdia wrote:
Atelia wrote:Swastika =/= Nazi symbol, even then it was pretty funny, and most certainly not something someone should get fired over in the slightest.

But the problem is that there are jewish people who work there or eat there, and if they saw a Swastika in a bun, they would sue them in an instant.
Im not saying that the girl who got it was jewish, i'm just saying that if this becomes wide spread... places like Mcdonalds or Burger king will go out of buisness because they lost about more then a dozen thousand customers.


This is in North Carolina not New York. Not many Jews in North Carolina. The woman was Christian but she still felt offended.

Sue for what? It is freedom of speech and not a health hazard. She could sue if the swastika was made of fecal matter.
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:That's hardly a firing offence. Unless they have a strict no butter policy.

No, but I bet they have a "No pissing off the customers" policy.
The Swastika is praised as a symbol of unity, peace and many other things among different culture. It has been used by Nazi Germany the least, compared to other cultures. So no, the Swastika does not represent Nazism.

Yes it does, and these attempts to deny that are just pathetic.

I just love how very well you attempt to back up your argument. Your acting fairly ignorant at this point. Since the Swastika and Kolovrat(double swastika) are part of Slavic culture, i would personally feel somewhat offended by someone calling it a Nazi symbol. German culture has actually the least to do with the Swastika, hence the Swastika is a Nazi symbol last and a symbol of peace and unity first.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:06 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Not true, it is still common to see on Asian temples.

Old ones. I daresay that there might be some hesitation these days about the symbol. Anyway, we're talking about North Carolina, not Uttar Pradesh. In a Western context, you're wrong, that kid was a twit and firing him was perfectly justifiable.

Hindu car blessing ritual complete with swastika Not exactly an old asian temple

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:The first thing i think of when i see a swastika is Pan-Slavism, actually.

Bullshit.

Horseshit.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:08 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The swastika hasn't been an innocent symbol since the 1930s. You know that, everyone knows that. It's perhaps regrettable but the Nazis ruined it for everyone.


Not true, it is still common to see on Asian temples.

Asian temples like a McDonalds in North Carolina.


Freiheit Reich wrote:
Abserdia wrote:But the problem is that there are jewish people who work there or eat there, and if they saw a Swastika in a bun, they would sue them in an instant.
Im not saying that the girl who got it was jewish, i'm just saying that if this becomes wide spread... places like Mcdonalds or Burger king will go out of buisness because they lost about more then a dozen thousand customers.


This is in North Carolina not New York. Not many Jews in North Carolina. The woman was Christian but she still felt offended.

Sue for what? It is freedom of speech and not a health hazard. She could sue if the swastika was made of fecal matter.

Sue over the hostile work environment. Free speech protects you from government action, not from being fired.

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Postby Atelia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:08 am

Ifreann wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Why is it bad? It is a symbol of good luck. The swastika is an innocent symbol. Would the lady also complain if there was a smiley face on her bun?

I'm afraid I can't recommend you pursue a career in acting if this attempt to seem ignorant is representative of your talents.


Calisu wrote:Yeah maybe you should read up on the swastika cause you clearly don't know what you're talking about

I'm well aware that it has been used by various other people before the Nazis. None the less it is a Nazis symbol, because they Nazis used it, and everyone knows the Nazis used it.

So? It's use by the Nazis should not suddenly mean it can't be used for ever after. If people want to hang onto to the past then that should not be everyone's burden.
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