Should prisoners be traumatized?

[Novorobo]

As we all know, America's idea of justice is to remind criminals that if they go to jail, the correctional officers will let other prisoners rape them. Some people think it might be an idea to make exceptions for criminals who are, well, 12, but that was immediately dismissed as a product of the criminal's cuteness merely because the person who proposed that happened to mention it.

GhamPlays: She was an adorable little girl poor thing shouldn't be crying like that. shes gonna be traumatized

Pierce Davis: The premises of the show is that they take juvinilles who are commiting crimes and show them what prison is like, and what will happen to them if they do not shape up. She isn't a, "poor adorale little girl", she is a teen who has commited a crime or felony and is being shown what happens to people if they don't shape up. She SHOULD be traumatized, as in this instance, the trauma could keep her out of jail. She was a thief and an abuser.

1. She isn't a teenager.

2. Isn't it possible that, rather than being the sole cause of people questioning the way prisons are run, this kid's cuteness was merely the catalyst that got the ball rolling on that in this context?

[Margno]

Heh. No, trauma certainly does not make people less likely to commit crimes.

[Indira]

Isn't trauma supposed to make a person MORE likely to commit crimes and generally make their life harder?

[Conscentia]

Isn't trauma supposed to make a person MORE likely to commit crimes and generally make their life harder?

Yes.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

They should not be traumatized. That is cruel and unusual punishment.

[Haydn]

That show gives juveniles a tour around a real prison to see where they go if they don't shape up.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

That show gives juveniles a tour around a real prison to see where they go if they don't shape up.

It could also make them think prisons are concentration camps.

[Olivaero]

No they shouldn't, prisons also shouldn't be ran for a profit or by officers of the law for that matter either, they should be ran by sociologists, with a staff of psychologists and officers of the law collaborating.

[Herrebrugh]

That show gives juveniles a tour around a real prison to see where they go if they don't shape up.

It could also make them think prisons are concentration camps.

What is it with you and your fixation on trying to incorporate the second world war in everything?

[Mkuki]

Isn't trauma supposed to make a person MORE likely to commit crimes and generally make their life harder?

That's what Psycho-Pass has taught me.

[United Marxist Nations]

It could also make them think prisons are concentration camps.

What is it with you and your fixation on trying to incorporate the second world war in everything?

I've wondered that so much that I've given up on trying to figure it out.

[Kumuri]

What is it with you and your fixation on trying to incorporate the second world war in everything?

I've wondered that so much that I've given up on trying to figure it out.

Godwin's Law. It's going to take effect.

[Russian Socialist Soviet States]

It could also make them think prisons are concentration camps.

What is it with you and your fixation on trying to incorporate the second world war in everything?

I am a history buff.

[Ifreann]

That looks like a terrible show.

[Vladislavija]

Cruel and unusual. Only question is which lesson is this going to give: "don't steal" or "don't get caught". If it prevents crime, I'm for it.

[Nazi Flower Power]

There are two separate issues here:

1. How should the prison system be run?

2. How should it be presented to kids on this program?

Now which one is this thread about? Cos the answers to the two questions are different.

The prison system should not be designed to terrorize prisoners. But the program on "Beyond Scared Straight" is designed to be a wake up call to keep people OUT of prison, and it serves a purpose in that context to present prison life in the worst possible light to convince the kids that it is not worth it to live a life of crime and end up in prison.

[Pandeeria]

It could also make them think prisons are concentration camps.

What is it with you and your fixation on trying to incorporate the second world war in everything?

Concentration Camps aren't inherently WW2-ish.

[Keyboard Warriors]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck did I just watch?

[Geilinor]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck did I just watch?

It presents prison in the worst way possible to keep kids out of prison. It shouldn't be taken as a portrayal of real, everyday prison conditions.

[Keyboard Warriors]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck did I just watch?

It presents prison in the worst way possible to keep kids out of prison. It shouldn't be taken as a portrayal of real, everyday prison conditions.

It seems like it's scaring kids shitless to provoke priceless reactions in order to secure favorable TV ratings, which frankly is abhorrent.

[Pandeeria]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck did I just watch?

It presents prison in the worst way possible to keep kids out of prison. It shouldn't be taken as a portrayal of real, everyday prison conditions.

Should kids be shown what real day prison is like?

[Keyboard Warriors]

It presents prison in the worst way possible to keep kids out of prison. It shouldn't be taken as a portrayal of real, everyday prison conditions.

Should kids be shown what real day prison is like?

Seeing as most kids have no misconceptions about prison being a really bad place to be, I highly doubt that pressing the point of how terrible being locked up can be will have any affect whatsoever on juveniles committing crimes.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It presents prison in the worst way possible to keep kids out of prison. It shouldn't be taken as a portrayal of real, everyday prison conditions.

It seems like it's scaring kids shitless to provoke priceless reactions in order to secure favorable TV ratings, which frankly is abhorrent.

So don't watch the show. There is better stuff on TV anyway.

[Central Slavia]

This is ... odd.
I mean, the two girls' charges are Stealing/DV and Truancy/Pot/Promiscuity. Like.. doesn't that warrant a lower grade of prison than the dude? Like, his charges are armed robbery.
Plus... I thought prisons were gender separated.
I don't think I have a clear idea what's going on.


As for my personal opinions on prison system in general... there's a line. For the low grade stuff - prisons should be a lot more about rehabilitation than they are now - the scandinavian countries did it right.
However, as soon as it's stuff like murder, rape and the like? Meh, let them feel it - their victim certainly ended up worse off.

[United Marxist Nations]

It seems like it's scaring kids shitless to provoke priceless reactions in order to secure favorable TV ratings, which frankly is abhorrent.

So don't watch the show. There is better stuff on TV anyway.

Yeah, like "Ancient Aliens" or "the CNN Ebola Coverage".