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Postby Scholmeria » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:17 am

Ashmoria wrote:18 year olds do lots of stupid things. except for underage drinking and pot smoking none are "normal" on their own but breaking the law in general is common. joyriding in a car that isn't your own, drag racing on city streets, assault, tagging, shoplifting, destruction of property, and other things of this type are common enough in young men that it means little in relation to the kind of men they will be in 10 years.

Maybe that is "normal" for the kids who are living in places that are full of people with victimity complex but usually teens are doing bad stuff that harms only them. Robbery is just not on that list. Who do it goes to a deliwuency center or to a psychiaritrist.
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Postby Allanea » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:22 am

Shoplifting is common, though.

He pushed a guy.

This may qualify as a robbery from some legal standpoint, but nobody here on this thread is part of a prosecution or a defense team in this kid's trial.

Let's stick to what happened: He shoplifted some cigars and then pushed an attendant.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:28 am

Allanea wrote:Shoplifting is common, though.

He pushed a guy.

This may qualify as a robbery from some legal standpoint, but nobody here on this thread is part of a prosecution or a defense team in this kid's trial.

Let's stick to what happened: He shoplifted some cigars and then pushed an attendant.


Do we have evidence he was the actual person who did it?
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Postby Allanea » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:30 am

Even if he did.

1. It is nothing like the horrible crime it is portrayed to be.

2. It in no way makes it okay to kill him unless he was attacking the officer.

3. In no way does it justify the riots that followed.

4. In no way do the riots justify the grotesque police overreaction that followed.
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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:32 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Allanea wrote:Shoplifting is common, though.

He pushed a guy.

This may qualify as a robbery from some legal standpoint, but nobody here on this thread is part of a prosecution or a defense team in this kid's trial.

Let's stick to what happened: He shoplifted some cigars and then pushed an attendant.


Do we have evidence he was the actual person who did it?

The security camera frames that were released sure do look a hell of a lot like him. But that's all they've released so far.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:12 am

Scholmeria wrote:...full of people with victimity complex ....


Full of people with what?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:14 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:


Full of people with what?

Come on. Haven't you heard of victimity complexes?

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:19 am

Merizoc wrote:
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Full of people with what?

Come on. Haven't you heard of victimity complexes?


Are they like Walter Mitty complexes?
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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:21 am

Ravenflight wrote:Also they stopped protesting...the governor or something is stepping in

A new police force stepped in... yesterday morning or the day before, I don't remember. Now who's behind on their info? :P

And the protest didn't stop, it just got peaceful.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:22 am

Is it wrong that I am just desensitized to police cruelty by now? Because I swear we hear something like this at least every other week.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:23 am

The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is it wrong that I am just desensitized to police cruelty by now? Because I swear we hear something like this at least every other week.

Well, it's certainly not unexpected. There's nothing wrong with you, just the country we live in.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:24 am

The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is it wrong that I am just desensitized to police cruelty by now? Because I swear we hear something like this at least every other week.

It's very wrong, considering we don't talk about these things like they're just something that happens.

Unfortunately, America as a whole is desensitized to gun violence... Wonder how that happened?
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:27 am

Merizoc wrote:
The Fascist American Empire wrote:Is it wrong that I am just desensitized to police cruelty by now? Because I swear we hear something like this at least every other week.

Well, it's certainly not unexpected. There's nothing wrong with you, just the country we live in.

Thank you.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:27 am

Aodan wrote:Laughing because no american patriots came after me for calling them Murikkka...
Muh freedom muh welfare.

I'm completely unsurprising that you saying "Murikkka" didn't ruffle any feathers... Cause generally we don't care about those types o' statements.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:27 am

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Merizoc wrote:Well, it's certainly not unexpected. There's nothing wrong with you, just the country we live in.

Thank you.

When we live in a country where "mass shooting" is a headline we've come to expect almost every week, sometimes twice a week... Who can blame you?
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:28 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Allanea wrote:Shoplifting is common, though.

He pushed a guy.

This may qualify as a robbery from some legal standpoint, but nobody here on this thread is part of a prosecution or a defense team in this kid's trial.

Let's stick to what happened: He shoplifted some cigars and then pushed an attendant.


Do we have evidence he was the actual person who did it?

There was a low quality video, and supposedly cigars were found on the kid. Enough for a conviction, maybe. However since the kid is dead there will be no trial.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:32 am

Condunum wrote:
The Fascist American Empire wrote:Thank you.

When we live in a country where "mass shooting" is a headline we've come to expect almost every week, sometimes twice a week... Who can blame you?

You do realize your the only one talking about this right? You are aware that this is an entirely different conversation.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:51 am

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Condunum wrote:When we live in a country where "mass shooting" is a headline we've come to expect almost every week, sometimes twice a week... Who can blame you?

You do realize your the only one talking about this right? You are aware that this is an entirely different conversation.

...What? Chill.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:54 am

Aodan wrote:Murikkka... The United (Totilitarian Police) States of Amerikkka.

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Have any other original lines there, you're an innovator.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:19 am



There went my faith in America, dammit.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:20 am

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There went my faith in America, dammit.

Assuming the tweets are real, that's another confirmation that Brown was shot while running, and then while trying to surrender.
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That was a lot of bruhs.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:23 am

Condunum wrote:
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There went my faith in America, dammit.

Assuming the tweets are real, that's another confirmation that Brown was shot while running, and then while trying to surrender.

that's what I thought he had no reason to lie about what he was seeing as it happened.


I don't find it a terrible thing. I think it is amazing that there can be this kind of independent evidence because someone tweeted about what he was seeing. its no different than calling a friend.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:30 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Condunum wrote:Assuming the tweets are real, that's another confirmation that Brown was shot while running, and then while trying to surrender.

that's what I thought he had no reason to lie about what he was seeing as it happened.


I don't find it a terrible thing. I think it is amazing that there can be this kind of independent evidence because someone tweeted about what he was seeing. its no different than calling a friend.


Not so much amazing, as indicative of the community relations issues faced the police that they haven't pulled in the account holder as a witness despite apparently police taping him into his house.
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