Riots in St. Louis after Police kill Teen

[Blasted Craigs]

It looked like a war zone.

That's not what a war zone looks like. Anyone who says that has no idea what they're talking about.


This is a war zone. Not roughed up suburbs.

I agree. People that claim it is a war zone IMHO are either trying to sensationalize the situation or are trying to make the people rioting look less than human and seem like savages, justifying any retaliation the police take. America has not known a true "war zone" on her streets since it fought for independence.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

That's not what a war zone looks like. Anyone who says that has no idea what they're talking about.


This is a war zone. Not roughed up suburbs.

I agree. People that claim it is a war zone IMHO are either trying to sensationalize the situation or are trying to make the people rioting look less than human and seem like savages, justifying any retaliation the police take. America has not known a true "war zone" on her streets since it fought for independence.

Uh, the Civil War? The Battle of Atlanta springs to mind.

[Vamtrl]

So what's the deal with the kids death, any new information crop up yet?

[Allanea]

Or, say, the Bonus March, where actual tanks were used against peaceful protesters?

[Calisu]

So what's the deal with the kids death, any new information crop up yet?

Was involved in a strong armed robbery, cop shot him multiple times while unarmed.

[The Orson Empire]

That's not what a war zone looks like. Anyone who says that has no idea what they're talking about.


This is a war zone. Not roughed up suburbs.

I agree. People that claim it is a war zone IMHO are either trying to sensationalize the situation or are trying to make the people rioting look less than human and seem like savages, justifying any retaliation the police take. America has not known a true "war zone" on her streets since it fought for independence.

Uhhh...what about the American Civil War?

[The Orson Empire]

I agree. People that claim it is a war zone IMHO are either trying to sensationalize the situation or are trying to make the people rioting look less than human and seem like savages, justifying any retaliation the police take. America has not known a true "war zone" on her streets since it fought for independence.

Uh, the Civil War? The Battle of Atlanta springs to mind.

Along with the rest of Sherman's March to the Sea.

[Vamtrl]

So what's the deal with the kids death, any new information crop up yet?

Was involved in a strong armed robbery, cop shot him multiple times while unarmed.

lmfao strong armed robbery, so much for innocent.

[Blasted Craigs]

yeah I just watched the video on tv. he pushed the guy around and left the store with merchandise he didn't pay for.

SO WHAT?

So, he was a violent criminal, and not the gentle giant he's made out to be in the media.
He did do sumfing, even though the people around him - at least one of them also involved in that robbery - said he didn't do nuffin.

Sooooooo... if I make one mistake in my life, say I use too much of the blue paint in Kindergarten and scream at the teacher, thats grounds for justifying my execution later in life.

This infuriates me to no end. How in the nine hells does a past action justify the killing they recieve later in life. I will say the same thing I said when people claimed the "Thug" photos of Trayvon showed he was a violent thug that deserved to get shot, photos that coincidentally were later to be found to be of someone else.

I do not care if this "kid" was the hardest, most badass villain from the most depraved Quenton Taratino movie. If he was doing nothing wrong, they did not deserve to be shot and killed. Just because I thought the bullies at my school in my high school days were violent thugs did not mean I had the right to kill them, and if I did, it would not be justified. If I was a cop, it would still not justify the killing of them if they did nothing to deserve being killed.

I have worked in law enforcement in the past. Training must have changed, because back then we were taught there must be capability, jeopardy, and opportunity before I use lethal force. If a person has a knife, and is across the room, the have two, but opportunity is weak. As they close distance, then opportunity rises. I guess we dropped opportunity in this assessment of whether we defend the actions of lethal force from what I have seen lately in the news.

Batman is a great, awesome imaginary character in comics. In real life he would deserve to go to prison.

[Calisu]

Was involved in a strong armed robbery, cop shot him multiple times while unarmed.

lmfao strong armed robbery, so much for innocent.

still didn't deserve what he got but the people making him out to be a saint are a bit much.

[Blasted Craigs]

I agree. People that claim it is a war zone IMHO are either trying to sensationalize the situation or are trying to make the people rioting look less than human and seem like savages, justifying any retaliation the police take. America has not known a true "war zone" on her streets since it fought for independence.

Uhhh...what about the American Civil War?

Oh my gosh... You are right, totally forgot for some reason. Nothing can be said. Thanks for the correction.

[Vamtrl]

lmfao strong armed robbery, so much for innocent.

still didn't deserve what he got but the people making him out to be a saint are a bit much.

If the previous part about him going for the cop in the car is true then he did deserve it.

[Calisu]

still didn't deserve what he got but the people making him out to be a saint are a bit much.

If the previous part about him going for the cop in the car is true then he did deserve it.

no proof so far

[Allanea]

So, he was a violent criminal, and not the gentle giant he's made out to be in the media.
He did do sumfing, even though the people around him - at least one of them also involved in that robbery - said he didn't do nuffin.

Look.

I realize that in a technical sense pushing a guy and leaving the store with some merchandize - qualifies as a strongarmed robbery.

But it is not in any way similar to the actions of some thug that beats down on a store owner.

Even if it were.

EVEN IF. This man were walking down the middle of the street, half-naked, tattooed from head to toe in gang tattoos, while carrying a NAMBLA membership card in one hand and a KKK membership card in the other.

In no way does this justify killing him.

[Vamtrl]

If the previous part about him going for the cop in the car is true then he did deserve it.

no proof so far

but with this revelation, I am going to stick with the cops story until internal affairs or FBI{?} says otherwise.

[Geilinor]

Was involved in a strong armed robbery, cop shot him multiple times while unarmed.

lmfao strong armed robbery, so much for innocent.

He wasn't perpetrating a robbery when shot and the police weren't attempting to arrest him at the time.

[Blasted Craigs]

So, he was a violent criminal, and not the gentle giant he's made out to be in the media.
He did do sumfing, even though the people around him - at least one of them also involved in that robbery - said he didn't do nuffin.

Look.

I realize that in a technical sense pushing a guy and leaving the store with some merchandize - qualifies as a strongarmed robbery.

But it is not in any way similar to the actions of some thug that beats down on a store owner.

Even if it were.

EVEN IF. This man were walking down the middle of the street, half-naked, tattooed from head to toe in gang tattoos, while carrying a NAMBLA membership card in one hand and a KKK membership card in the other.

In no way does this justify killing him.

My sentiments exactly. People that smugly say this child deserved to be killed because of what was on this video IMHO are really saying he deserved to be shot for not being white enough in America. They just grasp at straws for any reason to say "yep, that's why I defend his murder, not because of his skin color. I'm not racist, just sayin'."

[Tarsonis Survivors]

This shit is Trayvon Martin again. I want to be angry. White America wants to be angry. But we're tired of seeing this shit play out the same way over and over again, and we're tired of being blamed for it all.

[Mavorpen]

This shit is Trayvon Martin again. I want to be angry. White America wants to be angry. But we're tired of seeing this shit play out the same way over and over again, and we're tired of being blamed for it all.

...Whut?

[Vamtrl]

He wasn't perpetrating a robbery when shot and the police weren't attempting to arrest him at the time.

No what he was doing was struggling with the officer for his gun. Dumb ass that he was.

My sentiments exactly. People that smugly say this child deserved to be killed because of what was on this video IMHO are really saying he deserved to be shot for not being white enough in America. They just grasp at straws for any reason to say "yep, that's why I defend his murder, not because of his skin color. I'm not racist, just sayin'."

Lmao, please. No. Just no.

[The UK in Exile]

This shit is Trayvon Martin again. I want to be angry. White America wants to be angry. But we're tired of seeing this shit play out the same way over and over again, and we're tired of being blamed for it all.

...Whut?

presumably he's of the "why are people so outraged about unarmed people being shot in self defence?" crowd.

[Mavorpen]

He wasn't perpetrating a robbery when shot and the police weren't attempting to arrest him at the time.

No what he was doing was struggling with the officer for his gun. Dumb ass that he was.

Again, wrong. He wasn't struggling with the officer for the gun when he was killed.

[Vamtrl]

No what he was doing was struggling with the officer for his gun. Dumb ass that he was.

Again, wrong. He wasn't struggling with the officer for the gun when he was killed.

No presumably he was too busy bleeding to death.

[Mavorpen]

Again, wrong. He wasn't struggling with the officer for the gun when he was killed.

No presumably he was too busy bleeding to death.

...What?

[Blasted Craigs]

This shit is Trayvon Martin again. I want to be angry. White America wants to be angry. But we're tired of seeing this shit play out the same way over and over again, and we're tired of being blamed for it all.

Okay, (begin Sarcasm Mode)
are you mad things like this happen? Or mad people have the gall to complain kids are being shot with impunity, and think they should quietly just go about their business and not "bother" white America with this "Nonsense". Meanwile, the Republicans scream bloody murder at the injustice of the fact they were audited in a discriminate manner by the IRS, now there is a real crime worthy of public outrage, and WHY ARE NOT MORE PEOPLE OUTRAGED!?!? Conservatives are the true victims, dontcha know? (End Sarcasm)

If you are outraged children are shot and killed in American streets and nothing is done, then I agree. It is a travesty, not just this one incident, but also the many similar cases that happen every year. And not just to minorities, but all the poor. Remember the teen that opened the door holding a wii remote, the cop didn't say anything or identify herself when she knocked, and just gunned him down? Was white but poor, obviously of no use to society, and the cop was right, right?

It kills me this type of shit happens ALL THE TIME, yet there are still many who say there is not a problem.