Riots in St. Louis after Police kill Teen

[Spreewerke]

I'm not sure why this is surprising to anyone. Body cameras, to me, seems to be one of the most obvious solutions to this problem. And they do work. Of course, it won't necessarily address the central problems of being poorly trained and such, but it's a nice step forward.

What are the odds that we'll be able to make body-cameras a requirement for the police, though? Considering how adamantly many police oppose civilians filming them, particularly when they are beating people, can we really expect to ever make body-cameras standard?

It is more of a budget issue than an individual officer opinion issue.

[United Marxist Nations]

Does anyone know why there wasn't a dashcam? I mean, it probably wouldn't have actually been in frame, but we would at least have audio to go off of.

[MERIZoC]

I'm not sure why this is surprising to anyone. Body cameras, to me, seems to be one of the most obvious solutions to this problem. And they do work. Of course, it won't necessarily address the central problems of being poorly trained and such, but it's a nice step forward.

What are the odds that we'll be able to make body-cameras a requirement for the police, though? Considering how adamantly many police oppose civilians filming them, particularly when they are beating people, can we really expect to ever make body-cameras standard?

Thing is, it wouldn't be up to the individual police officers.

[Scomagia]

What are the odds that we'll be able to make body-cameras a requirement for the police, though? Considering how adamantly many police oppose civilians filming them, particularly when they are beating people, can we really expect to ever make body-cameras standard?

Thing is, it wouldn't be up to the individual police officers.

I imagine administrators would likely be quite obstinate as well.

[MERIZoC]

Thing is, it wouldn't be up to the individual police officers.

I imagine administrators would likely be quite obstinate as well.

Lawmakers could force them into it.

[Scomagia]

I imagine administrators would likely be quite obstinate as well.

Lawmakers could force them into it.

Provided we could actually get our lawmakers to cooperate on this.

[Allanea]

What are the odds that we'll be able to make body-cameras a requirement for the police, though? Considering how adamantly many police oppose civilians filming them, particularly when they are beating people, can we really expect to ever make body-cameras standard?

It is more of a budget issue than an individual officer opinion issue.

Cameras are comparatively cheap compared to the existing expenditures per police officer. Not to mention the expenses related to lawsuits from people whom the police officers have beat up.

[Olavoland]

"The police are fucked up! How can we possibly address this?"
"... lets destroy shit!"
"That sounds like a good plan!"

It worked well the last 956 times, right?

[Mavorpen]

By the way, the federal autopsy has been completed, and it also showed 6 gunshot wounds.

[Big Jim P]

Don't need too. The Police Captain in charge is telling the protesters that they are perfectly allowed to demonstrate, just those who fire upon police officers and National Guardsmen, and attempt to assault them will be arrested.

Shooting at someone is attempted murder and should be charged as such.

Not necessarily. Shooting at someone in self defense is not attempted murder.

[Big Jim P]

By the way, the federal autopsy has been completed, and it also showed 6 gunshot wounds.

This just announces that the autopsy is complete and confirms the six rounds. They still have to release the full report.

[Scomagia]

What are the odds that we'll be able to make body-cameras a requirement for the police, though? Considering how adamantly many police oppose civilians filming them, particularly when they are beating people, can we really expect to ever make body-cameras standard?

It is more of a budget issue than an individual officer opinion issue.

More of a blue code of silence issue, actually.

[Big Jim P]

LMFAO!

[MERIZoC]

LMFAO!

Funny.

[MERIZoC]

Ah, abuse of journalists is wonderful, isn't it?
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/18/police-to-al-jazeerajournalistinfergusonillbustyourass.html

[Vamtrl]

Ah, abuse of journalists is wonderful, isn't it?
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/18/police-to-al-jazeerajournalistinfergusonillbustyourass.html

Sounds like a troll provoking the police for a reaction. Amusing.

[Big Jim P]

I am so, so, so, so, so glad you are not a peace officer.

Never thought I'd say this, but maybe anonymous is right. Maybe we should get body cameras.

The police should have body cameras, not only for the protection of civilians, but theirs as well.

[DesAnges]

Never thought I'd say this, but maybe anonymous is right. Maybe we should get body cameras.

The police should have body cameras, not only for the protection of civilians, but theirs as well.

Also for the occasional leaked dogging footage.

[Conservative California]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

[Mavorpen]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

Have anything that's ground in reality and knowledge of the topic rather than childishly racist stereotypes?

[MERIZoC]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

You make the false assumption that most of the protesters are rioters, or that most of the rioters are looters. A large majority of the people out there want justice and reformation—it's just that some people try and take advantage of current events.

[Conservative California]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

Have anything that's ground in reality and knowledge of the topic rather than childishly racist stereotypes?

What I said is just not based on reality for people who refuse to acknowledge uncomfortable facts.

[Scomagia]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

I love how you've turned a minority of rioters into a representation of the black community as a whole. That takes skill.

[Mavorpen]

What exactly are these people 'fighting' for? Regardless, let's, for a minute, pretend they even know. How exactly are they going to achieve it by destroying other peoples' property and throwing Molotovs at the police. These riots are clearly not about justice for Michael Brown's family; they're just an excuse for people to do whatever they want to do and go unpunished. The African-American community has let me down, once again, with their stupid victimism and violent and senseless overreaction to events.

You make the false assumption that most of the protesters are rioters, or that most of the rioters are looters. A large majority of the people out there want justice and reformation—it's just that some people try and take advantage of current events.

Also, he must not pay attention to the news much, considering that the "white community" has rioted over far stupider shit.

http://gawker.com/video-of-violent-riot ... -954939719
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/4 ... anada.html

[Mavorpen]

Have anything that's ground in reality and knowledge of the topic rather than childishly racist stereotypes?

What I said is just not based on reality for people who refuse to acknowledge uncomfortable facts.

I realize racists have their own alternate reality where facts aren't facts and vice versa, but surely you can do better than this and at least try to ATTEMPT to back up these "facts."