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Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?

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What do you consider yourself?

Protestant
129
13%
Catholic
153
15%
Other Christian
86
8%
Jewish
28
3%
Muslim
43
4%
Hindu
6
1%
Buddhist
33
3%
Other religion
87
9%
Not religious
456
45%
 
Total votes : 1021

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:15 am

Big Jim P wrote:
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Nope.


Considering the number of devils I call on, I guess I am omnicultural. :twisted:


You're omni alright. :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:29 am

Conscentia wrote:
West Tristania wrote:
He is more real in the sense that an author is more real than its story.

That's because stories are fiction, not reality..

Rather like the bible...
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Postby Persica Prime » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:38 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Conscentia wrote:That's because stories are fiction, not reality..

Rather like the bible...

That's because nobody back then thought to title it Morality for Dummies. ;)

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Postby Sun Wukong » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:39 am

Persica Prime wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Rather like the bible...

That's because nobody back then thought to title it Morality for Dummies. ;)

The thing reads like Game of Thrones...

Only, you know, boring. Who would have thought you could make begetting seem tedious?
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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:41 am

The topic is Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:43 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:The topic is Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?


And religious things are being discussed.
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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:47 am

People are just calling the bible stupid things, not really discussing there religious affiliation
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The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:48 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:People are just calling the bible stupid things, not really discussing there religious affiliation


They're discussing the Bible and it just so happens most of us find it an absurd and stupid collection of writings.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:People are just calling the bible stupid things, not really discussing there religious affiliation


They're discussing the Bible and it just so happens most of us find it an absurd and stupid collection of writings.


Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:57 am

West Tristania wrote:
Conscentia wrote:That's because stories are fiction, not reality.
Saying something is more real than reality makes no sense. It is not possible to be more real than that which defines realness.

I'd say God defines realness. He is the source of reality. He is the most real being. Our reality is something he imagines.

So we aren't real? :eyebrow:
And what's a "God"?

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The Eastern Antarctic State
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Postby The Eastern Antarctic State » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:59 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They're discussing the Bible and it just so happens most of us find it an absurd and stupid collection of writings.


Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.

Love one another as I have loved you?
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The Republic of Eastern Antarctica is a country located on the Eastern portion of the Antarctic Continent, Has leftist policies, but is still capitalist.

NOTE: I am an Australian.
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Postby Antirome » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:00 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.

Love one another as I have loved you?


As a fellow Christian, I can tell you now, this well not end well.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:05 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.

Love one another as I have loved you?


You can transfer guilt to a scapegoat. That's essentially what the entire Jesus story was.
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Postby Antirome » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:08 am

Neutraligon wrote:
The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:Love one another as I have loved you?


You can transfer guilt to a scapegoat. That's essentially what the entire Jesus story was.


That's one way of reading it, but many denominations treat you as still being culpable for your actions. Hell, as a Catholic, I can tell you we're sorry all the time.

Like right now. I'm sorry for contradicting you, I'll not do it again. I'm awful.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:09 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.

Love one another as I have loved you?


Instead of God just fixing a problem he has to sacrifice someone to himself as a loophole for laws he made that he knew would fail. Gj God.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:12 am

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:12 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Oh I find it worse then that considering the morality that is in the bible.

Love one another as I have loved you?

He killed a ladies children because she was a slut and a pagan. That's some pretty S&M style love there. I think I'll go without.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:12 am

Antirome wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
You can transfer guilt to a scapegoat. That's essentially what the entire Jesus story was.


That's one way of reading it, but many denominations treat you as still being culpable for your actions. Hell, as a Catholic, I can tell you we're sorry all the time.

Like right now. I'm sorry for contradicting you, I'll not do it again. I'm awful.


Really, as far as I can tell as long as you believe in Jesus, regardless of your actions you will go to heaven, while if you do not believe regardless of your actions you will go to hell. I mean seriously god sacrificed himself to himself to solve a problem he created with rules he created, and then said unless you praise me for said rather useless sacrifice you will not go to heaven.
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The Jasminia Islands
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Postby The Jasminia Islands » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:13 am

Fairly liberal Anglican. I think that religion has to be something you work out for yourself so I don't like it when people try to tell others what to believe. And I don't understand why some Christian don't like Muslims and LGBT people. We're all brothers and sisters.
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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:14 am

The Eastern Antarctic State wrote:The topic is Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?

How about that... You managed to read the thread title.
Now, do you actually have anything to contribute?
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Antirome
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Postby Antirome » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:17 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Antirome wrote:
That's one way of reading it, but many denominations treat you as still being culpable for your actions. Hell, as a Catholic, I can tell you we're sorry all the time.

Like right now. I'm sorry for contradicting you, I'll not do it again. I'm awful.


Really, as far as I can tell as long as you believe in Jesus, regardless of your actions you will go to heaven, while if you do not believe regardless of your actions you will go to hell. I mean seriously god sacrificed himself to himself to solve a problem he created with rules he created, and then said unless you praise me for said rather useless sacrifice you will not go to heaven.


Good works are also necessary for salvation, at least if you're not Protestant/Reformed. The Epistle of James emphasises good works, for example.
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Sygneros
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Postby Sygneros » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:21 am

Constantinopolis wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:And who has truth? Christians? Hindu? Buddhist? Muslim? Because for all these people, there's a brand of truth in what they believe, and it's not the same for all.

Just because you're not sure who has the truth doesn't mean truth doesn't exist. Something is true, and other things are wrong, even when we don't know which thing is true and which ones are wrong.


Constantinopolis wrote:If everyone holds the same fundamental beliefs, those beliefs can be either true or false.

If they are true, then there should be no problem. How can you run into trouble due to believing the truth?

So the only way society could plunge into major issues when everyone holds the same beliefs is if those beliefs are false. But then this isn't an argument against everyone believing the same thing, it's just an argument against people (few or many) believing false things.


What if the truth, Absolute truth, is beyond out grasp?
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:22 am

Antirome wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Really, as far as I can tell as long as you believe in Jesus, regardless of your actions you will go to heaven, while if you do not believe regardless of your actions you will go to hell. I mean seriously god sacrificed himself to himself to solve a problem he created with rules he created, and then said unless you praise me for said rather useless sacrifice you will not go to heaven.


Good works are also necessary for salvation, at least if you're not Protestant/Reformed. The Epistle of James emphasises good works, for example.


However even with good works, someone who denies Jesus cannot go to heaven.
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Postby Britannic Realms » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:23 am

I'm an Anglican.
British, Bisexual, Protestant

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:23 am

Sygneros wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Just because you're not sure who has the truth doesn't mean truth doesn't exist. Something is true, and other things are wrong, even when we don't know which thing is true and which ones are wrong.


Constantinopolis wrote:If everyone holds the same fundamental beliefs, those beliefs can be either true or false.

If they are true, then there should be no problem. How can you run into trouble due to believing the truth?

So the only way society could plunge into major issues when everyone holds the same beliefs is if those beliefs are false. But then this isn't an argument against everyone believing the same thing, it's just an argument against people (few or many) believing false things.


What if the truth, Absolute truth, is beyond out grasp?


Then we keep trying until it isn't.
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