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What do you consider yourself?

Protestant
129
13%
Catholic
153
15%
Other Christian
86
8%
Jewish
28
3%
Muslim
43
4%
Hindu
6
1%
Buddhist
33
3%
Other religion
87
9%
Not religious
456
45%
 
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:52 pm

Ankha wrote:Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.


What the fuck is being "culturally Catholic"?
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Postby Antirome » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ankha wrote:Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.


What the fuck is being "culturally Catholic"?


It's an oft-argued position that Catholicism is as much a culture as it is a faith, especially in relation to places like Ireland, and that though one may cease to follow the tenets of the Roman Catholic Church, they are somehow still Catholic in conduct and in psychology.

Essentially, cultural Judaism transplanted onto Catholicism.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:55 pm

West Tristania wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:I've met Christians who didn't think that Jesus was a real person.

I don't consider them to be Christians. That does not fit the lable.
Immoren wrote:Bluth was only true Christian on this forum. *nods*

Oh, God. I remember him from back when I had a different account.

Who's Bluth?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:56 pm

Antirome wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What the fuck is being "culturally Catholic"?


It's an oft-argued position that Catholicism is as much a culture as it is a faith, especially in relation to places like Ireland, and that though one may cease to follow the tenets of the Roman Catholic Church, they are somehow still Catholic in conduct and in psychology.

Essentially, cultural Judaism transplanted onto Catholicism.


Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:56 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ankha wrote:Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.


What the fuck is being "culturally Catholic"?

That's a thing, it's just not specific enough. My guess is that he probably means German Catholic or Irish Catholic (though it could easily also refer to a dozen others.) You definitely know when you're dealing with German Catholics, even when they're atheists.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:57 pm

Merizoc wrote:
West Tristania wrote:I don't consider them to be Christians. That does not fit the lable.

Oh, God. I remember him from back when I had a different account.

Who's Bluth?

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Postby Antirome » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:58 pm

Merizoc wrote:Who's Bluth?


Bluth was a very interesting individual who had created his own philosophy, which he called Christianity, and was insistent that his "Christianity" was the only true one, while deriding other Christianities as "Paulinism." He had a lot of other eccentricities, like at one point I believe he created seven accounts so he could rotate them each day of the week, and also tried to illustrate inflection through brackets.

I don't think there's ever been or will ever be a mind quite like Bluth's.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What the fuck is being "culturally Catholic"?

That's a thing, it's just not specific enough. My guess is that he probably means German Catholic or Irish Catholic (though it could easily also refer to a dozen others.) You definitely know when you're dealing with German Catholics, even when they're atheists.


I think Anti explained it. It makes no sense to call yourself one, but I do get the gist.
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Postby Antirome » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:00 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Antirome wrote:
It's an oft-argued position that Catholicism is as much a culture as it is a faith, especially in relation to places like Ireland, and that though one may cease to follow the tenets of the Roman Catholic Church, they are somehow still Catholic in conduct and in psychology.

Essentially, cultural Judaism transplanted onto Catholicism.


Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.


Yeah, it's a little silly, though I can agree with some portions of the belief that Catholicism might have a culture to it, I don't just know if there are really "cultural Catholics".
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:01 pm

Antirome wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.


Yeah, it's a little silly, though I can agree with some portions of the belief that Catholicism might have a culture to it, I don't just know if there are really "cultural Catholics".

Having dated one, I confirm that there are.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:03 pm

Antirome wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.


Yeah, it's a little silly, though I can agree with some portions of the belief that Catholicism might have a culture to it, I don't just know if there are really "cultural Catholics".


I don't think there are. I just don't see the reasoning behind it, you know. Although, I agree there may be a sort of culture within groups of Catholics, but I think that's more related to culture (national/country) than anything else.
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Postby Phing Phong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:07 pm

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Postby Olivaero » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:13 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Antirome wrote:
It's an oft-argued position that Catholicism is as much a culture as it is a faith, especially in relation to places like Ireland, and that though one may cease to follow the tenets of the Roman Catholic Church, they are somehow still Catholic in conduct and in psychology.

Essentially, cultural Judaism transplanted onto Catholicism.


Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.

Is it really that ridiculous? When an Atheist a Or a person of another belief system entirely says "Oh my God!" or "Jesus Christ!" Or "Go to Hell!" are they not displaying some form of Cultural Christianity? Even as a Pagan, I acknowledge that I'm still culturally Christian.

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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:15 pm

Antirome wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Who's Bluth?


Bluth was a very interesting individual who had created his own philosophy, which he called Christianity, and was insistent that his "Christianity" was the only true one, while deriding other Christianities as "Paulinism." He had a lot of other eccentricities, like at one point I believe he created seven accounts so he could rotate them each day of the week, and also tried to illustrate inflection through brackets.

I don't think there's ever been or will ever be a mind quite like Bluth's.

Sounds like a wonderful fellow.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:18 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Oh, that mumbo-jumbo.

Is it really that ridiculous? When an Atheist a person of another belief system entirely says "Oh my God!" or "Jesus Christ!" Or "Go to Hell!" are they not displaying some form of Cultural Christianity? Even as a Pagan, I acknowledge that I'm still culturally Christian.


How exactly is the utterance of those a sign of you being culturally Christian? I utter Bastet's name often. Am I culturally Egyptian?
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:19 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Olivaero wrote:Is it really that ridiculous? When an Atheist a person of another belief system entirely says "Oh my God!" or "Jesus Christ!" Or "Go to Hell!" are they not displaying some form of Cultural Christianity? Even as a Pagan, I acknowledge that I'm still culturally Christian.


How exactly is the utterance of those a sign of you being culturally Christian? I utter Bastet's name often. Am I culturally Egyptian?

In that sense, sure.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:20 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
How exactly is the utterance of those a sign of you being culturally Christian? I utter Bastet's name often. Am I culturally Egyptian?

In that sense, sure.


Nope.
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Postby Ioghrnia » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:24 pm

What about cultural Mormons?
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Postby Antirome » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:25 pm

Merizoc wrote:Sounds like a wonderful fellow.


He was, in his own way. Impeccably polite, if struck with a bit of a narcissistic streak that I think one could forgive.
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Postby Olivaero » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:29 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Olivaero wrote:Is it really that ridiculous? When an Atheist a person of another belief system entirely says "Oh my God!" or "Jesus Christ!" Or "Go to Hell!" are they not displaying some form of Cultural Christianity? Even as a Pagan, I acknowledge that I'm still culturally Christian.


How exactly is the utterance of those a sign of you being culturally Christian? I utter Bastet's name often. Am I culturally Egyptian?

It's a sign your culture is somewhat rooted in Christianity if you reflexively utter "Oh my God" if you don't believe in the existence of any such diety, Referencing the Pesdjet is not the same unless you were brought up in a society that worships them and then refuted them. It's sort of like the difference between speaking french and being ethnically French.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:30 pm

Olivaero wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
How exactly is the utterance of those a sign of you being culturally Christian? I utter Bastet's name often. Am I culturally Egyptian?

It's a sign your culture is somewhat rooted in Christianity if you reflexively utter "Oh my God" if you don't believe in the existence of any such diety, Referencing the Pesdjet is not the same unless you were brought up in a society that worships them and then refuted them. It's sort of like the difference between speaking french and being ethnically French.


It feels like stretching the meaning of both Christianity and culture to the extreme.
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Postby Olivaero » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:44 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Olivaero wrote:It's a sign your culture is somewhat rooted in Christianity if you reflexively utter "Oh my God" if you don't believe in the existence of any such diety, Referencing the Pesdjet is not the same unless you were brought up in a society that worships them and then refuted them. It's sort of like the difference between speaking french and being ethnically French.


It feels like stretching the meaning of both Christianity and culture to the extreme.

It doesn't have any effect on the meaning of Christianity, I'm not saying I'm Christian but I acknowledge I'm influenced by Christian customs. I don't understand how it could possibly stretch the definition of culture.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:54 pm

I'm Catholic [In Name Only, sort of].
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:56 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Antirome wrote:
Bluth was a very interesting individual who had created his own philosophy, which he called Christianity, and was insistent that his "Christianity" was the only true one, while deriding other Christianities as "Paulinism." He had a lot of other eccentricities, like at one point I believe he created seven accounts so he could rotate them each day of the week, and also tried to illustrate inflection through brackets.

I don't think there's ever been or will ever be a mind quite like Bluth's.

Sounds like a wonderful fellow.


I found him to be rather amusing, and he DID have some good points.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Merizoc wrote:In that sense, sure.


Nope.


Considering the number of devils I call on, I guess I am omnicultural. :twisted:
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