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by West Tristania » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:19 pm

by Dyakovo » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:30 am
West Tristania wrote:Rostogovia wrote:Question for all you Christians out there. From an atheist standpoint I fail to see how anybody could worship a god who is literally responsible for every tragedy on earth. If god is omnipotent as you claim, couldn't he have easily prevented the holocaust and other genocides? Also, how could a "Good" god condemn somebody to eternal damnation? Either god dosent exist or he's a mass murdering maniac, and hence I refuse to worship him.
The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.
As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.United Allied Earth Federation wrote:Your talking to a group of political geniuses, I'm thinking atheists are the majority.
According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

by Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:33 am
West Tristania wrote:Rostogovia wrote:Question for all you Christians out there. From an atheist standpoint I fail to see how anybody could worship a god who is literally responsible for every tragedy on earth. If god is omnipotent as you claim, couldn't he have easily prevented the holocaust and other genocides? Also, how could a "Good" god condemn somebody to eternal damnation? Either god dosent exist or he's a mass murdering maniac, and hence I refuse to worship him.
The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.
As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.United Allied Earth Federation wrote:Your talking to a group of political geniuses, I'm thinking atheists are the majority.
According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

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by Hakio » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:02 am
Pandeeria wrote:Racism is almost as good as eating babies.

by Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:42 am
Sanctity wrote:As an Orthodox Christian, may I please request that next time you post a poll like this you include a separate category for us?
After the Roman Catholic Church, the next largest single Church in the world is the Russian Orthodox Church. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church is also huge and ancient. Many Orthodox Christians would rather not be group with strange new fringe movements (no offence to those who like to be strange) when we trace our history back to the Apostles of Christ.
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by Immoren » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:07 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

by Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:16 pm

by Immoren » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:18 pm

discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

by Duvniask » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:23 pm
Ankha wrote:Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.

by West Tristania » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:31 pm
Dyakovo wrote:West Tristania wrote:The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.
As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.
According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.
If 'God' isn't part of reality, he doesn't exist.
Othelos wrote:West Tristania wrote:The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.
As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.
According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.
If god is omnipresent, he is everywhere, including reality.

by Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:32 pm
West Tristania wrote:Dyakovo wrote:If 'God' isn't part of reality, he doesn't exist.
When I say he transcends reality, I mean he is above it. In a sense he is more real than our reality. He is part of reality in the sense that he is real, but he is not part of the reality he created except to the extent he has inserted himself there.Othelos wrote:If god is omnipresent, he is everywhere, including reality.
Did I say he is omnipresent?

by West Tristania » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:35 pm
Othelos wrote:West Tristania wrote:When I say he transcends reality, I mean he is above it. In a sense he is more real than our reality. He is part of reality in the sense that he is real, but he is not part of the reality he created except to the extent he has inserted himself there.
Did I say he is omnipresent?
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