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Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?

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What do you consider yourself?

Protestant
129
13%
Catholic
153
15%
Other Christian
86
8%
Jewish
28
3%
Muslim
43
4%
Hindu
6
1%
Buddhist
33
3%
Other religion
87
9%
Not religious
456
45%
 
Total votes : 1021

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:23 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sorry, already taken :p Someone! Give us something to argue debate calmly about.


Takhisis or Cyric. Who is the evilest?


... Cyric.
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Big Jim P
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:24 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Takhisis or Cyric. Who is the evilest?


... Cyric.


Why would you say that? I tend to think of Cyric as more insane than evil.

And I just caught the misspelling. :palm:
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:25 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
... Cyric.


Why would you say that? I tend to think of Cyric as more insane than evil.

And I just caught the misspelling. :palm:


I don't even know who we're talking about, Cyric just sounds cooler :lol:
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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:29 pm

FSM.

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West Tristania
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Founded: Aug 08, 2014
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Postby West Tristania » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:19 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
... Cyric.


Why would you say that? I tend to think of Cyric as more insane than evil.

And I just caught the misspelling. :palm:

What misspelling?

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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:30 am

West Tristania wrote:
Rostogovia wrote:Question for all you Christians out there. From an atheist standpoint I fail to see how anybody could worship a god who is literally responsible for every tragedy on earth. If god is omnipotent as you claim, couldn't he have easily prevented the holocaust and other genocides? Also, how could a "Good" god condemn somebody to eternal damnation? Either god dosent exist or he's a mass murdering maniac, and hence I refuse to worship him.

The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.

As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.
United Allied Earth Federation wrote:Your talking to a group of political geniuses, I'm thinking atheists are the majority.

According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

If 'God' isn't part of reality, he doesn't exist.
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:33 am

West Tristania wrote:
Rostogovia wrote:Question for all you Christians out there. From an atheist standpoint I fail to see how anybody could worship a god who is literally responsible for every tragedy on earth. If god is omnipotent as you claim, couldn't he have easily prevented the holocaust and other genocides? Also, how could a "Good" god condemn somebody to eternal damnation? Either god dosent exist or he's a mass murdering maniac, and hence I refuse to worship him.

The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.

As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.
United Allied Earth Federation wrote:Your talking to a group of political geniuses, I'm thinking atheists are the majority.

According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

If god is omnipresent, he is everywhere, including reality.
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Socialist Tera
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Postby Socialist Tera » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:49 am

Jewish, it is the way I was raised, I have questioned it and it feels the most right for me.
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Women-Only Beach
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Postby Women-Only Beach » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:56 am

I just voted "not religious".
In fact, I'm more agnostic than atheist. I can believe, and maybe I actually believe, in the existence of a superior entity.
But I see religions like institutions full of errors: for example, I am divorced, and this is not good for most religions. I have a lesbian sister: she is a wonderful person, but, again, she is not really accepted by the majority of religions. Many religions discriminate against women, who can not be priestesses. Also, the religious rituals seems to me an absolutely pointless thing, so I have no motivation to go in a church, a place that also in some ways discriminate me, my sister, all the women, and a lot of other persons.
But, despite this, I still think I'm a good enough person to be positively judge by God, if really exist (I'm not sure of it).
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Sanctity
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Postby Sanctity » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:02 am

As an Orthodox Christian, may I please request that next time you post a poll like this you include a separate category for us?
After the Roman Catholic Church, the next largest single Church in the world is the Russian Orthodox Church. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church is also huge and ancient. Many Orthodox Christians would rather not be group with strange new fringe movements (no offence to those who like to be strange) when we trace our history back to the Apostles of Christ.
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The Salafist Front
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Postby The Salafist Front » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:04 am

Salafi Muslim.

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Big Jim P
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Why would you say that? I tend to think of Cyric as more insane than evil.

And I just caught the misspelling. :palm:


I don't even know who we're talking about, Cyric just sounds cooler :lol:


Cyric is the evil god of Faerun (after killing the original Bane and taking over), and Takhisis is the evil goddess of Krynn.

West Tristania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Why would you say that? I tend to think of Cyric as more insane than evil.

And I just caught the misspelling. :palm:

What misspelling?


I originally mistyped "Cyric".
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Hakio
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Postby Hakio » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:02 am

I'm a irreligious atheist because that is the natural conclusion I have reached through rational reasoning encouraged by a skeptical outlook on the world.
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Calisu
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Postby Calisu » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:12 am

Ban organised religion.

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:13 am

Calisu wrote:Ban organised religion.


Get off the ban wagon. It is already overweight.
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:42 am

Sanctity wrote:As an Orthodox Christian, may I please request that next time you post a poll like this you include a separate category for us?
After the Roman Catholic Church, the next largest single Church in the world is the Russian Orthodox Church. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church is also huge and ancient. Many Orthodox Christians would rather not be group with strange new fringe movements (no offence to those who like to be strange) when we trace our history back to the Apostles of Christ.
Thanks mate 8)

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Takhisis or Cyric. Who is the evilest?


... Cyric.

Bhaal.
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:07 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
... Cyric.

Bhaal.


I've to go with Loviatar for obvious reasons. *nods*
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Ankha
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Postby Ankha » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:12 pm

Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.

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Sun Wukong
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Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:16 pm

Immoren wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:Bhaal.


I've to go with Loviatar for obvious reasons. *nods*

Then again, Lolth is pretty unpleasant.
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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:18 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I've to go with Loviatar for obvious reasons. *nods*

Then again, Lolth is pretty unpleasant.


Implications was that it's sort of "Finland mentioned" thing. :p
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Duvniask
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:23 pm

Ankha wrote:Im catholic, not "culturally catholic", just catholic. Roman catholic. Im to arrogant to be atheist.

Too arrogant? Why?
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West Tristania
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Postby West Tristania » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:31 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
West Tristania wrote:The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.

As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.

According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

If 'God' isn't part of reality, he doesn't exist.

When I say he transcends reality, I mean he is above it. In a sense he is more real than our reality. He is part of reality in the sense that he is real, but he is not part of the reality he created except to the extent he has inserted himself there.
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West Tristania wrote:The way I view it, God transcends created reality. He is not part of it. The Universe is a story he has created. He has inserted himself into the story in some places. One example would be Jesus who is like an author writing a character who is themselves into the story. All pain and suffering then exists to serve the story in the same way it does when an author includes pain and suffering in a book.

As for the second question. I don't think God punishes people with eternal suffering. He gives a one time punishment and then they are destroyed forever.

According to the poll, you are wrong. They have plurality but not majority.

If god is omnipresent, he is everywhere, including reality.

Did I say he is omnipresent?

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:32 pm

West Tristania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:If 'God' isn't part of reality, he doesn't exist.

When I say he transcends reality, I mean he is above it. In a sense he is more real than our reality. He is part of reality in the sense that he is real, but he is not part of the reality he created except to the extent he has inserted himself there.
Othelos wrote:If god is omnipresent, he is everywhere, including reality.

Did I say he is omnipresent?

Are you Christian?
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Postby West Tristania » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:35 pm

Othelos wrote:
West Tristania wrote:When I say he transcends reality, I mean he is above it. In a sense he is more real than our reality. He is part of reality in the sense that he is real, but he is not part of the reality he created except to the extent he has inserted himself there.

Did I say he is omnipresent?

Are you Christian?

Yeah.

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