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Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?

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What do you consider yourself?

Protestant
129
13%
Catholic
153
15%
Other Christian
86
8%
Jewish
28
3%
Muslim
43
4%
Hindu
6
1%
Buddhist
33
3%
Other religion
87
9%
Not religious
456
45%
 
Total votes : 1021

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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:28 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Merizoc wrote:…..How can you have evidence for the lack of a belief?


Anyone wanting evidence of atheism: All you have to do is ask an Atheist if they believe in god. When they tell you "no" there is you evidence for Atheism.

Ah. Of course. We've all just been misinterpreting his question.

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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:30 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Anyone wanting evidence of atheism: All you have to do is ask an Atheist if they believe in god. When they tell you "no" there is you evidence for Atheism.

Ah. Of course. We've all just been misinterpreting his question.


The existence of Atheists proves the Existence of Atheism.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:31 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Ah. Of course. We've all just been misinterpreting his question.


The existence of Atheists proves the Existence of Atheism.

Correlation is not causation!

Or something.
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Nejem (Ancient)
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Postby Nejem (Ancient) » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:31 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Nejem wrote:I'm a Roman Catholic. I'm pretty much still a Catholic out of hope that the Church will eventually change. I don't agree with everything the Church preaches, but its been what I've identified as all my life, so I don't really see myself leaving even if I 110% disagreed with the Church.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever...

Maybe not to you, but for me, its my identity. It makes sense to me, and that's all that matters.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:35 pm

Nejem wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:This makes no sense to me whatsoever...

Maybe not to you, but for me, its my identity. It makes sense to me, and that's all that matters.


How can you remain believing in something when you disagree with the institution that teaches you of said belief?
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Postby Fanosolia » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Nejem wrote:Maybe not to you, but for me, its my identity. It makes sense to me, and that's all that matters.


How can you remain believing in something when you disagree with the institution that teaches you of said belief?


isn't possible to belief in a higher power/understanding, and not adhere to the institution? mind you she/he is stilling going to that institution so that's a weird thing but... *shrugs*
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California Prime
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Postby California Prime » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:39 pm

Agnostic Atheist. I believe in the possibility (however slight) of some kind of creator(s) and/or an afterlife but since there is no evidence for it (and ample evidence to disprove the various established religions) there is no point in giving it any more credibility than any other "possibility" (Yeti, Loch Ness Monster, Crab People, etc.), that is not supported by any evidence.

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The Brethren Court
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Postby The Brethren Court » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:44 pm

A liberal, fundamentalist Free Will Baptist. My experiences and science has led me to continue my belief in God. The Bible has power, and I've witnessed it. Because of this, I believe the Bible. I believe the creation story is metaphorical, written in a way that early man could understand. I also understand that not everyone will convert. Tell them what the Bible says, show them love, and if they absolutely refuse, then fine. Show them respect and love, but this is the closest thing to Heaven they will see.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:45 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Nejem wrote:I'm a Roman Catholic. I'm pretty much still a Catholic out of hope that the Church will eventually change. I don't agree with everything the Church preaches, but its been what I've identified as all my life, so I don't really see myself leaving even if I 110% disagreed with the Church.

This makes no sense to me whatsoever...

Officially, the church doesn't allow people to leave.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:45 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
How can you remain believing in something when you disagree with the institution that teaches you of said belief?


isn't possible to belief in a higher power/understanding, and not adhere to the institution? mind you she/he is stilling going to that institution so that's a weird thing but... *shrugs*


It is possible. But if you disagree with the church, why do you still go? And I don't know about you, but if I disagree with the institution, I question the belief too.
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The Brethren Court
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Postby The Brethren Court » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:47 pm

I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:48 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.


So what does and why should we accept your definition?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:50 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.

Basically does, though.

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The Brethren Court
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Postby The Brethren Court » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:51 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.


So what does and why should we accept your definition?


Following the teachings of the Bible as accepting God into your life is what makes one a Christian. I know that just fifty years ago, most people where I live believed in the Christian God, but those who didn't live by the Bible wouldn't dare call themselves a Christian until they accepted God into their life and began to live by the Bible.
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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:This makes no sense to me whatsoever...

Officially, the church doesn't allow people to leave.

Not of their own free will anyway... The implication, however, was there that he wouldn't even want to.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:51 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.

How does it not?
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:52 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So what does and why should we accept your definition?


Following the teachings of the Bible as accepting God into your life is what makes one a Christian. I know that just fifty years ago, most people where I live believed in the Christian God, but those who didn't live by the Bible wouldn't dare call themselves a Christian until they accepted God into their life and began to live by the Bible.

So.... There are no christians?
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:52 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So what does and why should we accept your definition?


Following the teachings of the Bible as accepting God into your life is what makes one a Christian. I know that just fifty years ago, most people where I live believed in the Christian God, but those who didn't live by the Bible wouldn't dare call themselves a Christian until they accepted God into their life and began to live by the Bible.


Which version of the bible?
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Neutraligon
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:53 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So what does and why should we accept your definition?


Following the teachings of the Bible as accepting God into your life is what makes one a Christian. I know that just fifty years ago, most people where I live believed in the Christian God, but those who didn't live by the Bible wouldn't dare call themselves a Christian until they accepted God into their life and began to live by the Bible.


Based on whose interpretation? As far as I know most Christians claim they are following the Bible and accepting god, but they all differ on what following the teaching of the bible actually means. Considering the bible supports slavery does that mean there are no Christians now?
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:54 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:A liberal, fundamentalist Free Will Baptist. My experiences and science has led me to continue my belief in God. The Bible has power, and I've witnessed it. Because of this, I believe the Bible. I believe the creation story is metaphorical, written in a way that early man could understand. I also understand that not everyone will convert. Tell them what the Bible says, show them love, and if they absolutely refuse, then fine. Show them respect and love, but this is the closest thing to Heaven they will see.

Firstly, sir - the Bible was written by the Church. It's power is the power of the Church.
Secondly, free will is incompatible with causality. You saying you reject causality?
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The Brethren Court
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Postby The Brethren Court » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:54 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Brethren Court wrote:
Following the teachings of the Bible as accepting God into your life is what makes one a Christian. I know that just fifty years ago, most people where I live believed in the Christian God, but those who didn't live by the Bible wouldn't dare call themselves a Christian until they accepted God into their life and began to live by the Bible.

So.... There are no christians?


I did not say that. I'm Christian, I accepted God into my life, and live by the Bible as much as possible. So do many of the people I know that claim to be Christian. Of course, I do not know if they are Christian, because I cannot see their heart, only the evidence.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.

Basically does, though.

Not necessarily. Plenty of Christians believe in the Devil, and yet are not Satanists.

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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:57 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:So.... There are no christians?


I did not say that. I'm Christian, I accepted God into my life, and live by the Bible as much as possible. So do many of the people I know that claim to be Christian. Of course, I do not know if they are Christian, because I cannot see their heart, only the evidence.

Can you prove that you're living by the right interpretation of the bible? That what you consider to be "as much as possible" is actually enough?
Until you can do that, how can you truly say you're christian?
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:58 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Basically does, though.

Not necessarily. Plenty of Christians believe in the Devil, and yet are not Satanists.

And? "The Devil" is part of christian mythology.
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Postby Cetatsenia » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:58 pm

The Brethren Court wrote:I would also like to point out that believing in the Christian God does not make you a Christian.


Well of course not, considering how the Christian God is the same as the Jewish and Muslim God. And I'd hardly consider Jewish and Muslim people to be Christians.

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