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Your religious affiliation, or lack thereof, and why?

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What do you consider yourself?

Protestant
129
13%
Catholic
153
15%
Other Christian
86
8%
Jewish
28
3%
Muslim
43
4%
Hindu
6
1%
Buddhist
33
3%
Other religion
87
9%
Not religious
456
45%
 
Total votes : 1021

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Entmonton
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Postby Entmonton » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:29 am

Unitarian Universalist with strong leanings from paganism, taoism, buddhism, and agnosticism.

There may be a god. He may in fact be a goddess. There could be multiples of them sitting on a council, representing each religion to dictate their thoughts on humanity as a whole and their individual followers. It could just be that the universe is made of energy that strongly reacts to humans that we use to shape our known world. It could be everything. Or it could all simply be nothing.

Or a flying spaghetti monster...which reminds me, I need to eat...

But yeah, that's the chaotic conglomeration of thoughts concerning my personal beliefs.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:46 am

Silverfield wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well it's lucky for you then that Zionism isn't a required religious practice.


Thank you, I know many that feel that it is and should be.

I don't.
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Aetur
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Postby Aetur » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:46 am

Menassa wrote:
Aetur wrote:I consider myself a Baptist. Now, before the hate starts, let me explain. I believe that the most central flaw in humanity is sin, and that "the Christian religion," for lack of a better term, is the personal journey to become more like God through prayer and reading the Bible, and encourage others on their journey.

And you believe of course that the only way humanity can be free of its depraved state is to be washed in the blood of Jesus?


That's an odd way of putting in it. I believe salvation is the moment at which a person realises that they are condemned by the Law, and only Jesus' sacrifice can save them. Is that what you meant?
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:48 am

Aetur wrote:
Menassa wrote:And you believe of course that the only way humanity can be free of its depraved state is to be washed in the blood of Jesus?


That's an odd way of putting in it. I believe salvation is the moment at which a person realises that they are condemned by the Law, and only Jesus' sacrifice can save them. Is that what you meant?

I thought you had said humanity was in a state of sin? (potentially due to Adam but that's me ad libbing)
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Aetur
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Postby Aetur » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:01 pm

Menassa wrote:
Aetur wrote:
That's an odd way of putting in it. I believe salvation is the moment at which a person realises that they are condemned by the Law, and only Jesus' sacrifice can save them. Is that what you meant?

I thought you had said humanity was in a state of sin? (potentially due to Adam but that's me ad libbing)


Essentially, in my line of thought, sin is a problem that started with Adam and effects the entire human race, and the universe as a whole. The Law was written to point out that no matter how "righteous" an individual is, he is not worthy of heaven. Salvation gives the individual immunity from sin as far as hell is concerned, although only under the condition that the individual is sorry for their sin, and desires to become more Christ-like.
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Zemupe
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Postby Zemupe » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:02 pm

Atheist because why should I believe?

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Postby Stadacona » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:04 pm

Officially catholic, but unofficially I'm some form of spiritual theism or something like that.
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Arcturus Novus
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:06 pm

The amount of irreligious people is staggering.
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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:07 pm

I consider myself my spiritual as opposed to religious, though if I was to attach a name to my "religious" beliefs (or rather my philosophical ones) I'd say I'm a "seriously sick of the draining debate on religion that does nothing but cause unnecessary drama and frankly makes the world a worse place-ian".

As for my spirituality, I suppose you could say non-denominational Christian.
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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:09 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:The amount of irreligious people is staggering.

NS seems to attract a particular group of people. Luckily I've probably seen more polite Christians on here to counteract the fundamentalists that are usually talked about, so the site isn't all bad when it comes to religion.
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
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Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Aetur
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Postby Aetur » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:13 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:The amount of irreligious people is staggering.

NS seems to attract a particular group of people. Luckily I've probably seen more polite Christians on here to counteract the fundamentalists that are usually talked about, so the site isn't all bad when it comes to religion.


Often times so called "fundamentalists" ignore the fundamentals of Christianity they claim to believe.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:15 pm

Aetur wrote:
Menassa wrote:I thought you had said humanity was in a state of sin? (potentially due to Adam but that's me ad libbing)


Essentially, in my line of thought, sin is a problem that started with Adam and effects the entire human race, and the universe as a whole. The Law was written to point out that no matter how "righteous" an individual is, he is not worthy of heaven. Salvation gives the individual immunity from sin as far as hell is concerned, although only under the condition that the individual is sorry for their sin, and desires to become more Christ-like.

And the only way to be saved, is through the blood of Jesus, yes?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Aetur
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Postby Aetur » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:16 pm

Menassa wrote:
Aetur wrote:
Essentially, in my line of thought, sin is a problem that started with Adam and effects the entire human race, and the universe as a whole. The Law was written to point out that no matter how "righteous" an individual is, he is not worthy of heaven. Salvation gives the individual immunity from sin as far as hell is concerned, although only under the condition that the individual is sorry for their sin, and desires to become more Christ-like.

And the only way to be saved, is through the blood of Jesus, yes?

I believe so, yes.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:16 pm

Aetur wrote:
Menassa wrote:And the only way to be saved, is through the blood of Jesus, yes?

I believe so, yes.

And what of the righteous before Jesus?
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Dalcaria
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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:19 pm

Aetur wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:NS seems to attract a particular group of people. Luckily I've probably seen more polite Christians on here to counteract the fundamentalists that are usually talked about, so the site isn't all bad when it comes to religion.


Often times so called "fundamentalists" ignore the fundamentals of Christianity they claim to believe.

Yes, hence why they get called false-Christians, which is then retorted with the "no true Scotsman fallacy" claim. This debate is a debate of fallacies and counter fallacies, one SMALL reason why I detest it so much.
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
"You say manifest destiny, I say act of war. You're free to disagree with me, but I tend to make my arguments with a gun."
Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:19 pm

Aetur wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:NS seems to attract a particular group of people. Luckily I've probably seen more polite Christians on here to counteract the fundamentalists that are usually talked about, so the site isn't all bad when it comes to religion.


Often times so called "fundamentalists" ignore the fundamentals of Christianity they claim to believe.

The fundamentalists, as they call themselves, are holier-than-thou conseervatives who use religion as a veil to disguise their true intentions.
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Postby Stormaen » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:19 pm

Hmm. Christian, nominally. I did a "Which denomination are you?" quiz and came out Methodist; which many member of my family are. Though I also scored highly on Anglicanism.

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Aetur
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Postby Aetur » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:23 pm

Menassa wrote:
Aetur wrote:I believe so, yes.

And what of the righteous before Jesus?

Provided they believed that one day the Messiah would come to atone for their sins, then they would be saved. The New Testament is quite clear on that issue.
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Menassa
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Postby Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:28 pm

Aetur wrote:
Menassa wrote:And what of the righteous before Jesus?

Provided they believed that one day the Messiah would come to atone for their sins, then they would be saved. The New Testament is quite clear on that issue.

So Moses then is in Hell?
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Immoren » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:29 pm

Menassa wrote:
Aetur wrote:Provided they believed that one day the Messiah would come to atone for their sins, then they would be saved. The New Testament is quite clear on that issue.

So Moses then is in Hell?


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Postby Murkwood » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:30 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:The amount of irreligious people is staggering.

It's sad, but that's what you expect from NSG.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:30 pm

Stormaen wrote:Hmm. Christian, nominally. I did a "Which denomination are you?" quiz and came out Methodist; which many member of my family are. Though I also scored highly on Anglicanism.

Atheist head, religious heart.


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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Stormaen » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:31 pm

Immoren wrote:
Stormaen wrote:Hmm. Christian, nominally. I did a "Which denomination are you?" quiz and came out Methodist; which many member of my family are. Though I also scored highly on Anglicanism.

Atheist head, religious heart.


Liver belongs to the Bacchus. *nods*

How did you know..?! :blink: :P
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Postby Herargon » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:34 pm

I find it weird that there's not an "Agnostic" option. That is, not being atheist but also not a theist.

Born Roman catholic, being agnostic but still leaning a bit on Roman catholicism with protestant opinions on work disclipine and such.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:34 pm

Stormaen wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Liver belongs to the Bacchus. *nods*

How did you know..?! :blink: :P


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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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