I thought we got rid of you in the last great purge. Nevermind, i'll fix it. *pulls out gun*
Jokes aside, i haven't ever met a deist. By "Creator" do you mean a omnipotent being or something else?
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by Great Kleomentia » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:44 pm

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by Menassa » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:47 pm
Kelinfort wrote:Atheist until proven otherwise. Besides, what deity would care that we believe solely in itself? Wouldn't it be a benevolent deity's will that we serve and love our fellow man?

by Bari » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:47 pm
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:Othelos wrote:So, deist with pagan leanings?
So to speak. Personally I prefer to avoid labeling my beliefs as any particular -ism, since -isms imply a particular set of beliefs and particular requirements one is required to meet in order to qualify as a genuine -ist.
I think "believer in God" is quite adequate in describing my religious beliefs.
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One of the reasons why I reject organized religions is their emphasis on extracting favours from God through prayer and observance of religious norms. I think that God has already given men everything they will ever need - a pair of legs, a pair of arms and the power of reason to decide how to best wield them, and a whole world to make into heaven or hell at their own discretion. To ask for anything more would be insolence of the worst kind.
I find that the reason why many people renounce God is their failure to understand they aren't in any way deserving of special treatment, of divine intervention on their behalf. God isn't there to nurse and pamper people and their individual wants and desires, he's is simply the Creator and Provider, creating things and providing them with just what they need to grow and thrive, no more and no less.


by Czechanada » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:07 pm
Genivaria wrote:Atheist, because I see no reason to believe what most religions claim.

by Genivaria » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:07 pm
Bari wrote:Imperium Sidhicum wrote:
So to speak. Personally I prefer to avoid labeling my beliefs as any particular -ism, since -isms imply a particular set of beliefs and particular requirements one is required to meet in order to qualify as a genuine -ist.
I think "believer in God" is quite adequate in describing my religious beliefs.
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One of the reasons why I reject organized religions is their emphasis on extracting favours from God through prayer and observance of religious norms. I think that God has already given men everything they will ever need - a pair of legs, a pair of arms and the power of reason to decide how to best wield them, and a whole world to make into heaven or hell at their own discretion. To ask for anything more would be insolence of the worst kind.
I find that the reason why many people renounce God is their failure to understand they aren't in any way deserving of special treatment, of divine intervention on their behalf. God isn't there to nurse and pamper people and their individual wants and desires, he's is simply the Creator and Provider, creating things and providing them with just what they need to grow and thrive, no more and no less.
Can't you just call yourself a theist and stop being so melodramatic about a suffix?

by Great Kleomentia » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:09 pm
Genivaria wrote:Great Kleomentia wrote:I thought we got rid of you in the last great purge. Nevermind, i'll fix it. *pulls out gun*
Jokes aside, i haven't ever met a deist. By "Creator" do you mean a omnipotent being or something else?
http://deism.com/deism_defined.htm

by Sun Wukong » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:07 pm
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I choose to believe in a God - if I am wrong and there is no God, I stand to lose nothing anyway, but in case there is one after all, I'd rather want to be on good terms with him when my time to meet him comes.
I don't subscribe to any particular religion though. I'm more fond of my ancestral pagan beliefs and ethics than those of contemporary organized religions, but it would be an overstatement to call myself a Pagan.

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by Conscentia » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:52 am
Sun Wukong wrote:Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I choose to believe in a God - if I am wrong and there is no God, I stand to lose nothing anyway, but in case there is one after all, I'd rather want to be on good terms with him when my time to meet him comes.
I don't subscribe to any particular religion though. I'm more fond of my ancestral pagan beliefs and ethics than those of contemporary organized religions, but it would be an overstatement to call myself a Pagan.
I've never understood this at all. How can you choose to believe in something? How are beliefs not an obligate condition?
I can no more choose to believe in Zeus then I can choose to believe the sky is made of shag carpeting.
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by Brickistan » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:47 am
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I choose to believe in a God - if I am wrong and there is no God, I stand to lose nothing anyway, but in case there is one after all, I'd rather want to be on good terms with him when my time to meet him comes.
I don't subscribe to any particular religion though. I'm more fond of my ancestral pagan beliefs and ethics than those of contemporary organized religions, but it would be an overstatement to call myself a Pagan.

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by Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:17 am
Nargodia wrote:Theistic Satanist here. Hello, Christians.

by Benuty » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:06 am
Brickistan wrote:Menassa wrote:People generally do have rights to belief...
I agree. And yet I disagree...
You have the right to your own belief, yes. But you do not have the right to your own facts. And when your beliefs start replacing facts (as it does for many hard-core religious people), then I have a serious issue with what you're doing.Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I choose to believe in a God - if I am wrong and there is no God, I stand to lose nothing anyway, but in case there is one after all, I'd rather want to be on good terms with him when my time to meet him comes.
I don't subscribe to any particular religion though. I'm more fond of my ancestral pagan beliefs and ethics than those of contemporary organized religions, but it would be an overstatement to call myself a Pagan.
Pascal's Wager has been thoroughly debunked.
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by Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:09 am
Aetur wrote:I consider myself a Baptist. Now, before the hate starts, let me explain. I believe that the most central flaw in humanity is sin, and that "the Christian religion," for lack of a better term, is the personal journey to become more like God through prayer and reading the Bible, and encourage others on their journey.

by Benuty » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:10 am
Menassa wrote:Aetur wrote:I consider myself a Baptist. Now, before the hate starts, let me explain. I believe that the most central flaw in humanity is sin, and that "the Christian religion," for lack of a better term, is the personal journey to become more like God through prayer and reading the Bible, and encourage others on their journey.
And you believe of course that the only way humanity can be free of its depraved state is to be washed in the blood of Jesus?

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by Menassa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:22 am
Silverfield wrote:Modern Orthodox Judaism, but I have a strong disdain for Zionism.

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