SWB: Shopping While Black

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Could you give examples of that from the media? And please note that the article linked is only one source. For a convincing argument that "the media" is slanted, you'll need a few.

US media always makes everything seem all the more evil, vile or deadly. There are so many examples you can just turn on the television right now as we speak and you'll find an example of the media outlets of America making something sound worse than it is.

Then it should be no problem for you to find and provide examples.

[-The West Coast-]

US media always makes everything seem all the more evil, vile or deadly. There are so many examples you can just turn on the television right now as we speak and you'll find an example of the media outlets of America making something sound worse than it is.

So... No, you can't give any examples of the media doing what you claim they are doing with this story...

Yes, I can give hundreds of examples. I just don't feel the need to do something you can do with a Google search yourself if you're so interested in, instead of ignoring the obvious fearmonger tactics employed by CNN and FOX just because I don't provide examples readily. I expected better from such an experienced NS'er, quite frankly.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

So... No, you can't give any examples of the media doing what you claim they are doing with this story...

Yes, I can give hundreds of examples. I just don't feel the need to do something you can do with a Google search yourself if you're so interested in, instead of ignoring the obvious fearmonger tactics employed by CNN and FOX just because I don't provide examples readily. I expected better from such an experienced NS'er, quite frankly.

An experienced NS'er would know that it's up to the person making the claim to provide the proof. You can't reasonably expect other people to research your argument on your behalf. Now, do media outlets sensationalize? Yes. But, see, your claim was that this particular story was being sensationalized in a manner designed to make the police look bad, and you've provided no evidence of that.

[-The West Coast-]

Yes, I can give hundreds of examples. I just don't feel the need to do something you can do with a Google search yourself if you're so interested in, instead of ignoring the obvious fearmonger tactics employed by CNN and FOX just because I don't provide examples readily. I expected better from such an experienced NS'er, quite frankly.

An experienced NS'er would know that it's up to the person making the claim to provide the proof. You can't reasonably expect other people to research your argument on your behalf. Now, do media outlets sensationalize? Yes. But, see, your claim was that this particular story was being sensationalized in a manner designed to make the police look bad, and you've provided no evidence of that.

I refuse to google search the ends of the internet just to appease two people and prove an already proven and well known facet of the US media.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

An experienced NS'er would know that it's up to the person making the claim to provide the proof. You can't reasonably expect other people to research your argument on your behalf. Now, do media outlets sensationalize? Yes. But, see, your claim was that this particular story was being sensationalized in a manner designed to make the police look bad, and you've provided no evidence of that.

I refuse to google search the ends of the internet just to appease two people and prove an already proven and well known facet of the US media.

We're only asking you to do it for this one story. I'll give you the fact that the media can sensationalize. What you haven't proven is your allegation that this particular story is being sensationalized to make the police look bad. At this point, the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that you have no evidence that this is happening in this case, and are furiously attempting to find any excuse whatsoever to keep from admitting that.

[Esternial]

An experienced NS'er would know that it's up to the person making the claim to provide the proof. You can't reasonably expect other people to research your argument on your behalf. Now, do media outlets sensationalize? Yes. But, see, your claim was that this particular story was being sensationalized in a manner designed to make the police look bad, and you've provided no evidence of that.

I refuse to google search the ends of the internet just to appease two people and prove an already proven and well known facet of the US media.

Several instances being true does not mean it applies to everything. Don't generalize, please.

[Getrektistan]

Obviously the media is taking a fairly extreme, fearmongering stance that swings the public opinion away from police and vilifies them for doing their job.

Why is that obvious? Just because media outlets sometimes engage in fearmongering doesn't mean that literally every story is a stone's throw away from a lie.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Obviously the media is taking a fairly extreme, fearmongering stance that swings the public opinion away from police and vilifies them for doing their job.

Why is that obvious? Just because media outlets sometimes engage in fearmongering doesn't mean that literally every story is a stone's throw away from a lie.

Newscaster: "Coming up at 10, local man rescues dog from drowning"
The West Coast: "Obviously the media is taking a fairly extreme, fearmongering stance that swings the public opinion away from bodies of water and vilifies them for not being breathable."

See? The logic holds up in every case. Every. Case.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I was going to go on a diatribe about how fucked up this was, however, there really are no words to express the what the fuck moment I'm going through right now after reading that article.

I'll heave a big sigh and shake my head.

[Nazi Flower Power]

You left out the part where the guy told the cops the gun was not real.

Repeatedly.

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

[Saruhan]

Repeatedly.

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

Well, you can never tell. Say he said it, and you thought it wasn't a real gun but when your guard was down he shot you? You can't exactly see a person whose been reported as pointing a gun at people as entirely reliable

[Mavorpen]

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

Well, you can never tell. Say he said it, and you thought it wasn't a real gun but when your guard was down he shot you? You can't exactly see a person whose been reported as pointing a gun at people as entirely reliable

It's still odd, because we've seen cops be threatened by people holding guns and instead of being shot to death, or even attacked, they merely got arrested. And it's not hard to guess what their race was.

[Nazi Flower Power]

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

Well, you can never tell. Say he said it, and you thought it wasn't a real gun but when your guard was down he shot you? You can't exactly see a person whose been reported as pointing a gun at people as entirely reliable

So ask him to let you have a closer look at the gun and have one of the cops keep their gun ready to stop him from trying anything until they can ascertain what the situation is and defuse the situation. I never said the cops should immediately let their guard down or put their own guns away, just that they should have held their fire.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Repeatedly.

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

Airgun, not airsoft gun. But yes, you're essentially right.

[Distruzio]

A tragedy. But I like the leap in logic of the person writing the article.

Issue: A poor boy was shot unnecessarily by the police!
Solution: Walmart should STOP SELLING GUNS!

Seriously? Hows about sticking to the issue at hand. The police, as police are want to do, fired on an unarmed and non-threatening civilian.

[Imperializt Russia]

Repeatedly.

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

An possibly been shot with a 5.56 ACR?

It's not an airsoft gun we're dealing with here, it's a .177 air gun.

[Ifreann]

To me, that is a key part of the story. If he hadn't told the cops it wasn't real, I could understand why they might have shot him. Some airsoft guns are realistic enough to be mistaken for a real gun in the heat of the moment, but the cops should have held their fire when he said it wasn't real.

Well, you can never tell. Say he said it, and you thought it wasn't a real gun but when your guard was down he shot you? You can't exactly see a person whose been reported as pointing a gun at people as entirely reliable

Holding fire and letting down your guard are two different things.

[Gigaverse]

Give the US Police Force(s) water pistols.

[Blasted Craigs]

The Ritchie's claimed other shoppers felt threatened, yet no other shoppers said they felt threatened, or phoned the police.

Okay, so you're saying that, because nobody else called the police, nobody felt in the least bit threatened?

If someone pointed an object at me that looked like a real gun, I'd feel pretty threatened, honestly. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't, actually.

My question is, why is Wal Mart refusing to release the security footage?
The family has formally asked for the footage. If the shooting is a clear case of self defense, then there should be no problem releasing the footage.
hmmmmm.........

[Imperializt Russia]

Okay, so you're saying that, because nobody else called the police, nobody felt in the least bit threatened?

If someone pointed an object at me that looked like a real gun, I'd feel pretty threatened, honestly. I can't think of anyone who wouldn't, actually.

My question is, why is Wal Mart refusing to release the security footage?
The family has formally asked for the footage. If the shooting is a clear case of self defense, then there should be no problem releasing the footage.
hmmmmm.........

Walmart probably has a policy to not give their security tapes to members of the public.

[Condunum]

My question is, why is Wal Mart refusing to release the security footage?
The family has formally asked for the footage. If the shooting is a clear case of self defense, then there should be no problem releasing the footage.
hmmmmm.........

Walmart probably has a policy to not give their security tapes to members of the public.

Yeah, this is true. You'd need a court order to get those tapes.

[Tamoi]

Who cares? It happened in Ohio. May as well be Algeria or Sri Lanka. All I care about is Maine New Brunswick and Quebec. Let Ohio deal with their own stuff, none of my business.

[Geilinor]

Who cares? It happened in Ohio. May as well be Algeria or Sri Lanka. All I care about is Maine New Brunswick and Quebec. Let Ohio deal with their own stuff, none of my business.

Your lack of concern for your fellow human beings is apparent.

[Ifreann]

Who cares? It happened in Ohio. May as well be Algeria or Sri Lanka. All I care about is Maine New Brunswick and Quebec. Let Ohio deal with their own stuff, none of my business.

How strange.

[Maineiacs]

Who cares? It happened in Ohio. May as well be Algeria or Sri Lanka. All I care about is Maine New Brunswick and Quebec. Let Ohio deal with their own stuff, none of my business.

http://bangordailynews.com/2010/07/04/o ... profiling/

It occurs here, too. But let me guess: since it doesn't happen to you personally, you still don't care; right?