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what do you identify as?

white, non-hispanic
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68%
hispanic
46
5%
black
49
6%
asian
53
6%
native american
11
1%
mixed
68
8%
other
58
7%
 
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:11 pm

Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:13 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

You somehow assume "race" is a factor in the natural order of competition despite the fact groups in the past have formed with multiple backgrounds in them?
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:14 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He seems to be suggesting that white people can ONLY be successful when they have unfair advantages over all other ethnic groups.

Which is an odd view for a white supremacist. He's saying that his "race" is inferior to all others...

I think he'd argue that the "inferior" races are only succeeding because of race traitors from the "superior" white race.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

Just as it is impossible for Bavarians to succeed without mercilessly crushing the economy of the Rhinelanders.

Or rather not. Because that's idiotic.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:17 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

Just as it is impossible for Bavarians to succeed without mercilessly crushing the economy of the Rhinelanders.

Or rather not. Because that's idiotic.

You mean differently cultured groups aren't inherently hostile towards each other and hell-bent on asserting dominance? Blasphemy.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:22 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

No racial group is competing directly with another for resources in America.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:24 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.


You are dividing people into groups based upon the most superficial characteristics possible. The differences are literally skin deep.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:31 pm

Othelos wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

No racial group is competing directly with another for resources in America.

Meanwhile at horse races :P.
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Postby Getrektistan » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:55 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.


Why are you assuming that people naturally fall into groups based on race? Given the ample historical evidence that people segregate racially based on social constructs only and not out of nature, that's a pretty faulty assumption you're making.
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Postby Condunum » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I'm acknowledging that the natural order of things is for every group to compete over resources and whichever group has the majority will win out and be able to assert itself and their interests to the top of the social hierarchy as Whites once did.

We are not governed by the laws of the hunter-gatherer. We don't "compete" with other races for resources because we don't have a homogeneous culture.
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Postby Agranthon » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:28 pm

This is absurd.
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Postby UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:54 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:Haha, you're a funny lil' racist arn'cha


All the facts are on my side.

He's right most of the crime is by blacks and most of the prisons are filled with blacks my bad the n word version of blacks that make you feel better.

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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:58 pm

UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N wrote:
Sheltopolis wrote:
All the facts are on my side.

He's right most of the crime is by blacks and most of the prisons are filled with blacks my bad the n word version of blacks that make you feel better.

what?
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Postby UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:15 pm

Othelos wrote:
UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N wrote:He's right most of the crime is by blacks and most of the prisons are filled with blacks my bad the n word version of blacks that make you feel better.

what?

What are you whatting.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:19 pm

UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N wrote:
Othelos wrote:what?

What are you whatting.

The ignorance displayed.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:20 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N wrote: What are you whatting.

The ignorance displayed.

Not to mention the grammar. ;)

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:20 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:The ignorance displayed.

Not to mention the grammar. ;)

Calling it "grammar" is too generous.
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Postby Vettrera » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:22 am

Saiwania wrote:
Othelos wrote:So you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?


At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

So you think this is some "Baby Making Battle Royale" for which race will get to mistreat the others once they become the largest? I'm not surprised.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:33 am

Vettrera wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

So you think this is some "Baby Making Battle Royale" for which race will get to mistreat the others once they become the largest? I'm not surprised.


I find the claim that a minority race, if they become a majority race, will immediately use their newfound influence and power to mistreat the former majority race to be a fascinating one. Do the people who buy into this vision of the future think that non-whites might have a damned good reason to be pissed off at whites after all these years?

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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:47 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Vettrera wrote:So you think this is some "Baby Making Battle Royale" for which race will get to mistreat the others once they become the largest? I'm not surprised.


I find the claim that a minority race, if they become a majority race, will immediately use their newfound influence and power to mistreat the former majority race to be a fascinating one. Do the people who buy into this vision of the future think that non-whites might have a damned good reason to be pissed off at whites after all these years?


And if they did treat the former majority race like shit, then the former majority race could start a new civil rights movement and possibly try a violent revolution. Ooh, this is starting to sound fun actually.

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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:54 am

Othelos wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/war-whites-214642259.html

Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks brought up the alleged war on a conservative radio show hosted by Laura Ingraham, in response to questions about immigration reform and border security.

“This is a part of the war on whites that’s being launched by the Democratic Party, and the way in which they’re launching this war is by claiming that whites hate everybody else,” said Brooks.

“It’s a part of the strategy that Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued in 2012, where he divides us all on race, on sex, greed, envy, class warfare, all those kinds of things,” Brooks continued.


Ok, imo, this is the latest nonsense from Washington. White people are still more privileged than non-whites in America. The border issues aren't about race, despite whether or not people want to make it about that.

So, what do you think? Is this going to be the Republican version of the 'war on women'? Are there some legitimate concerns that racial tensions might worsen because of the border crisis?


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Then turd-brained dipshits like Rep. Brooks come along and prove me wrong. Apparently, he didn't listen to his own Party's Presidential nominee divide America into "makers" and "takers" eighteen months ago...either that, or projection truly is a skill that GOP politicians are required to master before making it to the big leagues.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:57 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I find the claim that a minority race, if they become a majority race, will immediately use their newfound influence and power to mistreat the former majority race to be a fascinating one. Do the people who buy into this vision of the future think that non-whites might have a damned good reason to be pissed off at whites after all these years?


And if they did treat the former majority race like shit, then the former majority race could start a new civil rights movement and possibly try a violent revolution. Ooh, this is starting to sound fun actually.


You're missing the point.

First off, despite 60s rhetoric, and despite having every single goddamned excuse to do so in the book, there has never been a serious, massive, and organized revolt against white people in this country. Never. I find that nearly miraculous, considering what we saw in Haiti. Every uprising here was strangled in its cradle.

Sure, we had the Black Panthers in the 60s and early 70s, but they were never able gain any sort of serious influence anywhere besides the college campuses. Their major successes involved free breakfast programs for inner city kids.

Therefore, if you did find yourself in a position where you were a mistreated minority, and decided to partake in a violent revolution, you would be performing an act that black people never did despite some goddamned good excuses to do so.

My point is this: If Latinos, or black people became the majority race in this nation, do you think that they would treat white people badly? And if so, what do you think their motivations would be?

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:01 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:No, because the concept of white privilege exists to be used a divisive political tool aimed and taking down white Americans for monetary and political reasons, not to serve any vague notion of "social justice".

So then white people should be disproportionately hindered in most facets of society, including obtaining jobs, getting into universities, etc.

Please provide evidence for this. Otherwise, you're clearly making shit up.

Well one time I tried to get a job, and I didn't get it, and then Obama was president. I mean, if that isn't reverse racism then I don't know what is.


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Not so much a dodge as using an unexpected (true) answer.

Unexpected, sure, but I wouldn't call that remotely true.

Wasn't unexpected either. Par for the course, really.

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Postby The UDSS » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:05 am

I actually identify as purple and the lack of this choice on the poll offends me.
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:09 am

The UDSS wrote:I actually identify as purple and the lack of this choice on the poll offends me.

The joke would've been okay if not for "Other" being an option.
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