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what do you identify as?

white, non-hispanic
604
68%
hispanic
46
5%
black
49
6%
asian
53
6%
native american
11
1%
mixed
68
8%
other
58
7%
 
Total votes : 889

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:49 pm

Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:49 pm

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Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.


See, that's exactly what they're doing when the leaders point out discrimination and institutional racism. So, no, I don't believe for a second that you want them to worry about their own community. I suspect that you want them to shut the fuck up and stay out of sight so that you can live in blissful ignorance of the bullshit that they have to deal with every day. Guess what? Doesn't work that way. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

Thats a fucking burn if I ever saw one.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:51 pm

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Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game.

No, it isn't.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.

so you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.

One group doesn't necessarily have to "win".
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Postby Revanchism » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:52 pm

Othelos wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I am completely unsurprised by the poll results given the content of countless posts in NSG.

what do you mean, exactly?

Look at the poll results.
Then look at the massive amount of NSG posts that range from plainly ignorant to downright racist.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:53 pm

Revanchism wrote:I am completely unsurprised by the poll results given the content of countless posts in NSG.


Still noticeably more diverse than the US as a whole. Bear that in mind.

One should do this because this forum is around 50% American and most of the other major contributing countries are either majority European* or of European descent (e.g. Australia or NZ).
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:53 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.

Uh...huh..just how did you reach this little nugget?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:54 pm

Othelos wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.

so you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?

Helter Skelter baby.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:54 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.

One group doesn't necessarily have to "win".

We could not possibly expect them to logically solve their own problems now can we?
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Postby Revanchism » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:54 pm

Forsher wrote:
Revanchism wrote:I am completely unsurprised by the poll results given the content of countless posts in NSG.


Still noticeably more diverse than the US as a whole. Bear that in mind.

One should do this because this forum is around 50% American and most of the other major contributing countries are either majority European* or of European descent (e.g. Australia or NZ).

Heh, not where I live, thank goodness.
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Postby Forsher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:55 pm

Revanchism wrote:
Othelos wrote:what do you mean, exactly?

Look at the poll results.
Then look at the massive amount of NSG posts that range from plainly ignorant to downright racist.


A bit like this one. Very strong undertones of racism as what we might term a white phenomenon. As a quick illustration of why this is not the case Asian immigration in particular draws strong criticism from a wide cross-section of society in NZ.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:58 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:And when they do, you whine about it.


When two communities can't agree on something, it is a zero sum game. There will be a winner and a loser in the long run. It is just a matter of which groups hold the most leverage over the others.


When two communities can't agree on something, they need to get the hell over it and find common ground.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:58 pm

Othelos wrote:So you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?


At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:59 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Othelos wrote:So you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?


At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Racialism...really?

Then again shouldn't have expected more.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Othelos wrote:So you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?


At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:01 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

He seems to be suggesting that white people can ONLY be successful when they have unfair advantages over all other ethnic groups.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Othelos wrote:So you see white people in conflict with blacks, which will inevitably lead to one of the two becoming the 'winner'?


At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

plenty of hispanics are white...

and not really. losing privilege =/= losing some grand racial conflict.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:02 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I suspect that since he'd be perfectly happy to keep minorities "in their place", he thinks that minority groups would do the same to him.

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Postby Forsher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:03 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

He seems to be suggesting that white people can ONLY be successful when they have unfair advantages over all other ethnic groups.


Racist assumptions leads to racist implications. Colour me surprised. On second thoughts, maybe colour was a bad choice of word.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:03 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

Tearing of thine friends asshole of-course.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:03 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

He seems to be suggesting that white people can ONLY be successful when they have unfair advantages over all other ethnic groups.

Which is an odd view for a white supremacist. He's saying that his "race" is inferior to all others...
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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:05 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
At one time Whites in the US were the "winner" so to speak in society, but now it is heading in the other direction. Only now Blacks will have to compete with Hispanics which will come out on top. Different groups will continue to rise and fall but Whites had a good run while it lasted.

Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:06 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?

It is not enough that I should succeed, all others must fail?

If they cannot fail, then why not genocide?
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Postby Forsher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:07 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Other groups making progress means whites are done for? How did you reach that conclusion?


I suspect that since he'd be perfectly happy to keep minorities "in their place", he thinks that minority groups would do the same to him.


That's what I mean by racist assumptions, Saiwania seems to be under the impression that history is the zero-sum struggle of various racial groups (a racist assumption) whereas any sane reading of history would demonstrate that this is not the case. We often see largely monocultural societies in conflict but this is not inherent, zero-sum or just due to the differences in culture (I will not argue that there have been no conflicts on the basis that the enemy was simply other as I think that has happened). I talk specifically in terms of conflict because I think there's no non-trivial evidence to support competition in other senses in such a context.
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