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what do you identify as?

white, non-hispanic
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68%
hispanic
46
5%
black
49
6%
asian
53
6%
native american
11
1%
mixed
68
8%
other
58
7%
 
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:59 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nice dodge.


Not so much a dodge as using an unexpected (true) answer.

Unexpected, sure, but I wouldn't call that remotely true.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:02 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Not so much a dodge as using an unexpected (true) answer.

Unexpected, sure, but I wouldn't call that remotely true.


They are two of the biggest racists around. They keep it alive so they can continue riding on the whole issue instead of actually doing anything.
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Postby Getrektistan » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:40 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Unexpected, sure, but I wouldn't call that remotely true.


They are two of the biggest racists around. They keep it alive so they can continue riding on the whole issue instead of actually doing anything.


You listed two prominent community organizers, so they definitely do far more than most to address racism in America.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:47 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Unexpected, sure, but I wouldn't call that remotely true.


They are two of the biggest racists around. They keep it alive so they can continue riding on the whole issue instead of actually doing anything.


Giving a diagnosis of a disease and suggesting treatment does not mean that you are causing the disease in the first place. It simply means that you're making a living by pointing it out.

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Postby Scomagia » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:20 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
They are two of the biggest racists around. They keep it alive so they can continue riding on the whole issue instead of actually doing anything.


Giving a diagnosis of a disease and suggesting treatment does not mean that you are causing the disease in the first place. It simply means that you're making a living by pointing it out.

Well clearly if they didn't point it out it wouldn't exist. That's why I never go to the hospital. *Nods*
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:37 pm

Scomagia wrote:
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Giving a diagnosis of a disease and suggesting treatment does not mean that you are causing the disease in the first place. It simply means that you're making a living by pointing it out.

Well clearly if they didn't point it out it wouldn't exist. That's why I never go to the hospital. *Nods*


Sadly, many do think along those lines, or believe that doctors will make up diseases in order to continue getting paid. It's the same psychology.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:53 pm

A war on white people?
No.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:06 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Sadly, many do think along those lines, or believe that doctors will make up diseases in order to continue getting paid. It's the same psychology.


Well, it is absolutely true that doctors practice defensive medicine to try to keep from getting sued if something goes wrong with a patient, they will suggest the most expensive medicines and procedures to solve a problem instead of considering the cheaper alternatives. So it might be worthwhile for some people to not go to the doctor for every little problem and try to resolve things on their own for the sake of their wallet.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:10 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Sadly, many do think along those lines, or believe that doctors will make up diseases in order to continue getting paid. It's the same psychology.


Well, it is absolutely true that doctors practice defensive medicine to try to keep from getting sued if something goes wrong with a patient, they will suggest the most expensive medicines and procedures to solve a problem instead of considering the cheaper alternatives. So it might be worthwhile for some people to not go to the doctor for every little problem and try to resolve things on their own for the sake of their wallet.


Still and all, when a doctor says that something's wrong, it's often a good idea to listen. Similarly, when leaders in the black community who have spent their whole lives dealing with civil rights issues say that there's a problem, it's a good idea to at least hear them out and investigate the matter.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:22 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nice dodge.


Not so much a dodge as using an unexpected (true) answer.

Really?
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:22 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Still and all, when a doctor says that something's wrong, it's often a good idea to listen. Similarly, when leaders in the black community who have spent their whole lives dealing with civil rights issues say that there's a problem, it's a good idea to at least hear them out and investigate the matter.


Both need to accept that they aren't going to always get their way. If some people don't listen, it is because their self interests have overruled their recommendations. I'm White, so chances are the Black community don't affect me. What I need to be concerned about is the White community.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:25 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Still and all, when a doctor says that something's wrong, it's often a good idea to listen. Similarly, when leaders in the black community who have spent their whole lives dealing with civil rights issues say that there's a problem, it's a good idea to at least hear them out and investigate the matter.


Both need to accept that they aren't going to always get their way. If some people don't listen, it is because their self interests have overruled their recommendations. I'm White, so chances are the Black community don't affect me. What I need to be concerned about is the White community.


The Black community totally affects you, since you share a country with them. This means that you share an economy, probably a city, quite possibly a neighborhood.

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Postby Forsher » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:33 pm

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:35 pm

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:36 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
District XIV wrote:*sigh*

*Goes back to eating hummus*


Hummus, the solution to just about everything.


I read that as "eating humans", and immediately thought "Well, there's your problem right there, at least if you're going for white meat."

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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:37 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:A war on white people?
No.

Yes there is, well a war on pseudo-scientific nonsense anyway.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:44 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The Black community totally affects you, since you share a country with them. This means that you share an economy, probably a city, quite possibly a neighborhood.


Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:45 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The Black community totally affects you, since you share a country with them. This means that you share an economy, probably a city, quite possibly a neighborhood.


Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.

we're all americans...we're in the same group.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:46 pm

Saiwania wrote:I think Black people should worry about their community

And when they do, you whine about it.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:46 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The Black community totally affects you, since you share a country with them. This means that you share an economy, probably a city, quite possibly a neighborhood.


Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.


You're implying that all races somehow belong to separate communities.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:47 pm

Othelos wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.

we're all americans...we're in the same group.

Well we are all humans to begin with so...:P.
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Postby Revanchism » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:47 pm

I am completely unsurprised by the poll results given the content of countless posts in NSG.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:48 pm

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Saiwania wrote:
Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.


You're implying that all races somehow belong to separate communities.

Which is absurd phenotypical nonsense. I mean really how the hell has that quackery survived its long due death?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:48 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The Black community totally affects you, since you share a country with them. This means that you share an economy, probably a city, quite possibly a neighborhood.


Nevertheless, I don't have to actually hang out with any Black people on a daily basis. I think Black people should worry about their community while I look after my own group.


See, that's exactly what they're doing when the leaders point out discrimination and institutional racism. So, no, I don't believe for a second that you want them to worry about their own community. I suspect that you want them to shut the fuck up and stay out of sight so that you can live in blissful ignorance of the bullshit that they have to deal with every day. Guess what? Doesn't work that way. Life is tough. Wear a helmet.

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Postby Othelos » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:49 pm

Revanchism wrote:I am completely unsurprised by the poll results given the content of countless posts in NSG.

what do you mean, exactly?
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