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what do you identify as?

white, non-hispanic
604
68%
hispanic
46
5%
black
49
6%
asian
53
6%
native american
11
1%
mixed
68
8%
other
58
7%
 
Total votes : 889

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Pacific Independence
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Postby Pacific Independence » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Pacific Independence wrote:
Why would you be in possession of drugs if you did not mean to consume or distribute them?


You do understand that distribution is not the same as consumption, correct?


I said or not and. And yes, I do.
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Empire of Narnia
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.

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Blakk Metal
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:31 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:1. Am I supposed to assume that black people are too stupid to understand questions? The more plausible answer is that they were lying.
2. If black people are too stupid to understand questions like that in one survey, then why should I assume the blacks in the surveys you cite were smart enough to understand the questions they were given.


One thing intrigues me:

How the fuck do you assume ALL black people lie or are stupid when the studies have shown that there's, at best, 5-10% rescind rate because of several factors?

I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:33 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
One thing intrigues me:

How the fuck do you assume ALL black people lie or are stupid when the studies have shown that there's, at best, 5-10% rescind rate because of several factors?

I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.


Still, how in the living mother of fuck do you even assume this?! Even I read the data and the study and I didn't came up to the conclusion "them niggers are stupid" because it is a 5-10%; which I'll admit is a big deal to a public statistician because of inaccuracy, but not to someone who knows at least some mathematics.

Also it's not like white and hispanic people did much better in the survey at avoiding rescind rates, so there's that too. Or are you now going to say white and hispanics also lie or are stupid?
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:33 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
One thing intrigues me:

How the fuck do you assume ALL black people lie or are stupid when the studies have shown that there's, at best, 5-10% rescind rate because of several factors?

I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.

You shouldn't be racist. It is un-Communist and un-Christian and incompatible with modern society.

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The Land of Truth
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Postby The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:34 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
One thing intrigues me:

How the fuck do you assume ALL black people lie or are stupid when the studies have shown that there's, at best, 5-10% rescind rate because of several factors?

I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.


You didn't have to say. You never added a qualifier that denoted a specific set of black people, hence the assumption is that you meant all. Choose your words more carefully.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:35 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.


Still, how in the living mother of fuck do you even assume this?! Even I read the data and the study and I didn't came up to the conclusion "them niggers are stupid" because it is a 5-10%; which I'll admit is a big deal to a public statistician because of inaccuracy, but not to someone who knows at least some mathematics.

You already answered this:
Soldati senza confini wrote:We're not going to get him to change his mind or admit he is wrong because he doesn't make conclusions out of data, he makes the data fit his ill-conceived conclusions; which is nothing but wilful ignorance and a mockery of academia.

He doesn't operate by "look at data and draw conclusion." No, he's already drawn his conclusion, and he'll ignore every single fact that disagrees and magnify every single fact that even remotely seems like it agrees to the point where the fact is no longer a fact.
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The Land of Truth
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Postby The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:36 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:I never said 'all', the forum rules don't allow it.

You shouldn't be racist. It is un-Communist and un-Christian and incompatible with modern society.

Calling him "un-Communist" means nothing to him (in fact, he probably takes it as a compliment). Furthermore, he's never stated that he hasn't stated his religious affiliation, so...
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The Land of Truth
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Postby The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:37 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


I wasn't aware Stephen Harper was the next Karl Marx. :eyebrow:
RP: We are the Principality of New Vasconia! (Occupied by the Kingdom of Austiana.)
Personal: I am a 17-year old theological noncognitivist and atheist from the southern United States. I am a social democrat and democratic socialist.
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig. Don't tell me what to do!
Ec: -8.62; Soc: -5.44

Your argument is invalid.

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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:38 pm

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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:38 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


I wasn't aware Stephen Harper was the next Karl Marx. :eyebrow:

what does steven harper have to do with communism?
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:38 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.
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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.

that's annoying
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:39 pm

Othelos wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:Calling him "un-Communist" means nothing to him (in fact, he probably takes it as a compliment). Furthermore, he's never stated that he hasn't stated his religious affiliation, so...

He's a christian. He said so in some of his older posts.

I never said that.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:40 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people ignorant racists like myself exist to uphold it.


FTFY.
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Postby UNITED AMERICAN FEDERATI0N » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:40 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Obviously if you were a minority, you would have typed it without the umlauts due to laziness. *nods*

Not so much laziness as a hatred of White German culture, and a desire to implement my own in its place.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:40 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.


Sure, if that helps you sleep at night.
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The Interstellar Mongol Khanate
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Postby The Interstellar Mongol Khanate » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:40 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Zelitopia wrote:Ancestry? If you go by Ancestry, depending how far you go back, everyone is either Chinese or African.

Skin color? Skin color is meaningless and tells you absolutely nothing about heritage or ancestry. There are a lot of white europeans whose skin changes its color when they are in the lower latitudes and spend a lot of time outside.


Humans are from Africa. Everyone is African.


Heaven forbid we start emphasizing that in high schools and colleges. Them whitey conservatives already think colleges breed liberals. Dont want them claiming that those colleges are now rewriting history too :roll:
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:41 pm

Oh shit, I think we've officially won. He's gone back to ignoring inconvenient posts that prove him wrong.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:41 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.

Why is race important to you? I do not care about race at all. I would gladly call even the raccoon on my flag comrade without a second thought. In order to advance as a society we must abandon racist thought.

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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:42 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.


The noble construct? It's a pointless social construct that has caused more harm than good.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:42 pm

Othelos wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:
I wasn't aware Stephen Harper was the next Karl Marx. :eyebrow:

what does steven harper have to do with communism?

Sounds Marxist to me. ;)
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Postby Zelitopia » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:43 pm

The Land of Truth wrote:
Zelitopia wrote:It got its start in Morrocco. Tunisia was only the capital.

Yes, I know, they came from Hispania.

and before that they came from Germany and before Germany they came from Ukraine and before Ukraine they came from the area that is now northwest China, Mongolia, and southeast Siberia.

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Postby Othelos » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:43 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Othelos wrote:He's a christian. He said so in some of his older posts.

I never said that.

Sorry, I got confused as to which poster you guys were referring too.
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Postby The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:44 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Their is no war against any race. It is just that with great politicians like Stephen Harper leading the way most no longer care about race. Racism is dying and an age of equality and acceptance is rising.


The noble construct of race shall endure so long as people like myself exist to uphold it.


Dividing people along arbitrary lines is not "noble" by any definition of the word.
RP: We are the Principality of New Vasconia! (Occupied by the Kingdom of Austiana.)
Personal: I am a 17-year old theological noncognitivist and atheist from the southern United States. I am a social democrat and democratic socialist.
98% of all Internet users would cry if Facebook broke down. If you are part of that 2% who simply would sit back and laugh, copy and paste this into your sig. Don't tell me what to do!
Ec: -8.62; Soc: -5.44

Your argument is invalid.

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