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by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:25 pm

Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Mavorpen » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:25 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:You implied there was a massive disparity between conviction and acts.
Blakk Metal wrote:You implied that there was a disparity in arrests and convictions as well.
Blakk Metal wrote:And I proved that number was bullshit, because black people lie more.
Mavorpen wrote:Blakk Metal wrote:My sources disproved all self reported studies on race and drug use.
No, it does not. Your source studies the concordance rate to show how accurate self reported studies are. And if you read the results, it's actually very high.Overall concordance rates were relatively high, ranging from 87 to 100% for
marijuana, 90–95% for cocaine, and 81–95% for the combined measure.
It does not, ANYWHERE, say "self reported studies on race and drug use are wrong." It does not, ANYWHERE, report any specific statistics measuring marijuana use by race that shows a difference level such as this:

by The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:25 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Mavorpen wrote:Also, no one said white people are "routinely" let off. No, that implies that there's always a conscious decision to let X amount of white people go on days A, B, and C. That's not how institutional racism works. And your failure to understand this is also one of the many problems when it comes to effectively discussing this topic that you've displayed.
You implied there was a massive disparity between conviction and acts.Distruzio wrote:
See... if I'm recalling Blakk Metal's position correctly (which I may not because.... well... I dunno) then your/my/Gon's mind being in the gutter makes you/me/Gon "thugs". So.... want some marijuana before we overthrow the government?
I never said marijuana was bad. My point is that black people are punished more because they do more crime.Mavorpen wrote:Racial disparities in the justice system doesn't mean "white people are routinely let off." That's a shitty straw man created by your failure to understand the topic. The most disparity comes in the form of whites getting lesser sentences for the same exact crime and with the same background as blacks.
You implied that there was a disparity in arrests and convictions as well.The Land of Truth wrote:Right, because the white people would work with the black people to overthrow the government that was favoring them and keeping them out of jail. Because that makes sense.
*brought, not "brung" Beyond that, I'd say he did a fine job of proving it (considering that marijuana use was at about 52/48 for the white:black
And I proved that number was bullshit, because black people lie more.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:26 pm

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by Distruzio » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:26 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Distruzio wrote:
See... if I'm recalling Blakk Metal's position correctly (which I may not because.... well... I dunno) then your/my/Gon's mind being in the gutter makes you/me/Gon "thugs". So.... want some marijuana before we overthrow the government?
I never said marijuana was bad. My point is that black people are punished more because they do more crime.

by Neutraligon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:27 pm

by Blakk Metal » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:28 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Blakk Metal wrote:And I proved that number was bullshit, because black people lie more.
No, all you did with that was throw more fuel into the fire and let us be more convinced you are pulling shit out of your ass and then making the data you collect fit your assertion somehow; which is what Stormfront does.
Now, do you ACTUALLY have an argument to make, or will you continute to spout the same bullshit again?
Distruzio wrote:Blakk Metal wrote:I never said marijuana was bad. My point is that black people are punished more because they do more crime.
Ah... say we take this comment seriously instead of hip firing a dismissal because racism. How do we measure this standard you set? How do we know "black people... do more crime"?

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:28 pm
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by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:28 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:29 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have out-snorted myself, Soli. The article linked in the OP (kudos to Othelos for making me laugh by finding that ''jewel'') and the responses of several posters in this thread have made me out-snort myself.
I have to admit, back in hindsight, the whole "genetic predisposition to be poor" is fucking hilarious
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by Distruzio » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:29 pm

by Mavorpen » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:29 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Did you even my sources? My sources clearly showed that blacks are far more likely to lie about drug use.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:30 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
No, all you did with that was throw more fuel into the fire and let us be more convinced you are pulling shit out of your ass and then making the data you collect fit your assertion somehow; which is what Stormfront does.
Now, do you ACTUALLY have an argument to make, or will you continute to spout the same bullshit again?
Did you even my sources? My sources clearly showed that blacks are far more likely to lie about drug use.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Saiwania » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:30 pm
Trygg wrote:This is how you perceive racial boundaries?

by Distruzio » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:30 pm

by Neutraligon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:32 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I have out-snorted myself, Soli. The article linked in the OP (kudos to Othelos for making me laugh by finding that ''jewel'') and the responses of several posters in this thread have made me out-snort myself.
I have to admit, back in hindsight, the whole "genetic predisposition to be poor" is fucking hilarious

by Distruzio » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:33 pm

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:35 pm
Slava Ukraini
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Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats
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by The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:35 pm
Blakk Metal wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
No, all you did with that was throw more fuel into the fire and let us be more convinced you are pulling shit out of your ass and then making the data you collect fit your assertion somehow; which is what Stormfront does.
Now, do you ACTUALLY have an argument to make, or will you continute to spout the same bullshit again?
Did you even my sources? My sources clearly showed that blacks are far more likely to lie about drug use.Distruzio wrote:
Ah... say we take this comment seriously instead of hip firing a dismissal because racism. How do we measure this standard you set? How do we know "black people... do more crime"?
They get convicted more.

by The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:35 pm

by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:35 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Neutraligon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:37 pm

by The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:37 pm

by The Land of Truth » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:40 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Distruzio wrote:
What, out of morbid curiosity, do you find disreputable about social darwinism?
The fact that it make should and ought to claims. The fact that is isessentially trying to apply one field of study to a completely different field of study, with no evidence that said application can be made. Science does not make claims on what should and ought to be, only on what is. Social Darwinism makes those claims.

by Distruzio » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:40 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Distruzio wrote:
What, out of morbid curiosity, do you find disreputable about social darwinism?
The fact that it make should and ought to claims. The fact that is isessentially trying to apply one field of study to a completely different field of study, with no evidence that said application can be made. Science does not make claims on what should and ought to be, only on what is. Social Darwinism makes those claims.
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