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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:50 pm

Roski wrote:
Organized States wrote:No, ISIS is attacking Kurdish communities at the moment, along with Christian and other Minority sects which have fled to Kurdistan.


Nevermind.
I thought ISIS could see the light!

Yeah, they're a little out there when it comes to their definition of Religion. When AQ and the Taliban condemn them, you know these guys are no joke.
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Postby Roski » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:52 pm

Organized States wrote:
Roski wrote:
Nevermind.
I thought ISIS could see the light!

Yeah, they're a little out there when it comes to their definition of Religion. When AQ and the Taliban condemn them, you know these guys are no joke.


AQ and Taliban are condemning them because they are actually fucking effective.

These guys are likely the strongest military force in the Middle East, if you don't count Turkey or Pakistan as part of the ME.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:53 pm

Roski wrote:
Organized States wrote:Yeah, they're a little out there when it comes to their definition of Religion. When AQ and the Taliban condemn them, you know these guys are no joke.


AQ and Taliban are condemning them because they are actually fucking effective.

These guys are likely the strongest military force in the Middle East, if you don't count Turkey or Pakistan as part of the ME.


Hardly, Iran, Saudi Arabia or Israel would destroy the Islamic State.
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Postby Roski » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roski wrote:
AQ and Taliban are condemning them because they are actually fucking effective.

These guys are likely the strongest military force in the Middle East, if you don't count Turkey or Pakistan as part of the ME.


Hardly, Iran, Saudi Arabia or Israel would destroy the Islamic State.


Iran can't even into safe country.
Saudi Arabia is hiding from the AQ and Taliban
Israel is fighting a different battle.

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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:55 pm

Roski wrote:
Organized States wrote:Yeah, they're a little out there when it comes to their definition of Religion. When AQ and the Taliban condemn them, you know these guys are no joke.


AQ and Taliban are condemning them because they are actually fucking effective.

These guys are likely the strongest military force in the Middle East, if you don't count Turkey or Pakistan as part of the ME.

These guys have pulled some 14th century style stuff over the past few weeks, even killing kids and other Muslims. They aren't the nicest guys in the world.

I'm going to have to give the award for strongest to Saudi or Israel in that particular category, but that's for another topic.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Roski wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hardly, Iran, Saudi Arabia or Israel would destroy the Islamic State.


Iran can't even into safe country.
Saudi Arabia is hiding from the AQ and Taliban
Israel is fighting a different battle.

#mateofchecks


Wutm8? Iran could go in and crush the IS by itself, same with Saudi Arabia. If they actually worked together which will never happen this would already be over.
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Postby Bazrasha » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:58 pm

Roski wrote:
Organized States wrote:Yeah, they're a little out there when it comes to their definition of Religion. When AQ and the Taliban condemn them, you know these guys are no joke.


AQ and Taliban are condemning them because they are actually fucking effective.

These guys are likely the strongest military force in the Middle East, if you don't count Turkey or Pakistan as part of the ME.

I wouldn't go that far. I mean in Syria they were really getting hit hard by both government and rebel forces and were really limited in their territorial gains based off of how expansive they were. Iraq was a whole other story. Weak leadership, a pissed off Sunni minority, Iraq fell not because ISIS was to good they fell because they had no competent leadership. Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, really any of the big players in the Middle East to hold its own against IS.

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Postby Iranshahr Aryana » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:02 pm

This whole crisis with ISIS could be effectively resolved without any Western interference. The answer is simple: that big country due east of Iraq. ISIS is a Sunni militant group, and Iran has absolutely no desire to see them take Iraq, which is on their border, or Syria, their biggest Arab ally. Compare ISIS to the Taliban in Afghanistan - Sunni militants that threatened Iran. When the US invaded Afghanistan, Iran provided the Americans with intelligence, maps, and contacts that enabled them to link up with the Northern Alliance and get the Taliban out of power. This was in both the interests of Iran and the US (the Taliban had seized the Iranian consulate in Mazar-i-Sharif in 1998, and Iran was happy to see a hostile, Sunni neighbour go). The same applies to ISIS.

Iran wants there to peace in the Middle East, both for economic reasons and national security reasons, and they definitely don't want ISIS on their border. And the only people opposed to Iranian intervention are the Saudis and a few radical conservatives in US Congress. We've given the Saudis and the Turks a shot at the crisis, and they haven't done anything about it. So now its time to bring in Iran.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roski wrote:
Iran can't even into safe country.
Saudi Arabia is hiding from the AQ and Taliban
Israel is fighting a different battle.

#mateofchecks


Wutm8? Iran could go in and crush the IS by itself, same with Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is filled with Crazy Abe sympathizers. They'll never kill IS.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:09 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wutm8? Iran could go in and crush the IS by itself, same with Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is filled with Crazy Abe sympathizers. They'll never kill IS.


They won't, but if they wanted to they could. But yeah, Saudi Arabia is all sorts of batshit.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:40 pm

The Taliban is a joke an I assure all of you Al-Qaida is not at war or against IS. IS has just developed to much to be part of the Al-Qaida and is now strong enough to be its own orginazation.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:41 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:The Taliban is a joke an I assure all of you Al-Qaida is not at war or against IS. IS has just developed to much to be part of the Al-Qaida and is now strong enough to be its own orginazation.


Until the world bombs it back to the stone age, didn't you hate ISIS like a month ago?
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:48 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:The Taliban is a joke an I assure all of you Al-Qaida is not at war or against IS. IS has just developed to much to be part of the Al-Qaida and is now strong enough to be its own orginazation.


Until the world bombs it back to the stone age, didn't you hate ISIS like a month ago?

IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.

EDIT: I also forogt the Howtizers and SCUDS and soviet AA guns.
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Postby Lexicor » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:50 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Until the world bombs it back to the stone age, didn't you hate ISIS like a month ago?

IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.


IS is a splinter group of the Al-Nusra Front in Syria, that was trained, armed and funded by CIA Covert Intelligence and US Special Forces. So technically this entire shit is the fault of American Foreign Policy caused by America trying to fix mistakes it made with previous foreign policy. :D
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:52 pm

Lexicor wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.


IS is a splinter group of the Al-Nusra Front in Syria, that was trained, armed and funded by CIA Covert Intelligence and US Special Forces. So technically this entire shit is the fault of American Foreign Policy caused by America trying to fix mistakes it made with previous foreign policy. :D


IS was founded in 2003 Al-Nursah was what 2011? So what on earth are you talking about?
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Postby Ulrenon » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:53 pm

I really just hope the United States stays out of it(it probably wont, but hey) due to us not being the World Police.

Even though we kind of, you know, appointed ourselves Sheriff of everything because murica

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:53 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Until the world bombs it back to the stone age, didn't you hate ISIS like a month ago?

IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.

EDIT: I also forogt the Howtizers and SCUDS and soviet AA guns.


That won't save them from smart bombs, sorry kid. You didn't answer the question, what happened to you hating ISIS?
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Postby Organized States » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:55 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Until the world bombs it back to the stone age, didn't you hate ISIS like a month ago?

IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.

EDIT: I also forogt the Howtizers and SCUDS and soviet AA guns.

You forget that those AA, Howitzers, and SCUDs were already targeted and sent back to the Stone Age by US Airpower.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:IS is vert well armed with the same weapons as the Americans and Iraqis and even syrians they have T-72s,BMP 1&2,Humvee,Uaz,Possibly Helicopters,AR-15,PKM,RPD,AK series weapons,M4A1,they also got military outfits such as field jackets helmets etc. and civilian vehicles. A lot of members have Andriod and iPhone products and film there progress and also communicate like that.

EDIT: I also forogt the Howtizers and SCUDS and soviet AA guns.


That won't save them from smart bombs, sorry kid. You didn't answer the question, what happened to you hating ISIS?


I answered this already in like 10 or 20 pages ago so you find it your self.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:59 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
That won't save them from smart bombs, sorry kid. You didn't answer the question, what happened to you hating ISIS?


I answered this already in like 10 or 20 pages ago so you find it your self.


Ah yes, I remember now. Yeah, you aren't real at all :lol2: You don't just change positions like that. In other news, has the US launched anymore strikes beyond the few against the artillery and whatnot?
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:01 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:
I answered this already in like 10 or 20 pages ago so you find it your self.


Ah yes, I remember now. Yeah, you aren't real at all :lol2: You don't just change positions like that. In other news, has the US launched anymore strikes beyond the few against the artillery and whatnot?


No because IS will fight destroy them and they know it and Obama already said he won't take military action or find a military solution.
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Postby Organized States » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:02 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:
I answered this already in like 10 or 20 pages ago so you find it your self.


Ah yes, I remember now. Yeah, you aren't real at all :lol2: You don't just change positions like that. In other news, has the US launched anymore strikes beyond the few against the artillery and whatnot?

Yeah, destroyed 2 ISIS convoys, a few AA positions in the way, and ammunition depots, I believe.
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Postby Organized States » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:03 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ah yes, I remember now. Yeah, you aren't real at all :lol2: You don't just change positions like that. In other news, has the US launched anymore strikes beyond the few against the artillery and whatnot?


No because IS will fight destroy them and they know it and Obama already said he won't take military action or find a military solution.

We already took military action, and the President is authorizing more strikes, and IS troops have already been stomped on by US Airpower.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:04 am

Organized States wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:
No because IS will fight destroy them and they know it and Obama already said he won't take military action or find a military solution.

We already took military action, and the President is authorizing more strikes, and IS troops have already been stomped on by US Airpower.

IS can down "air power" because I'm pretty sure they have SAMs if I am not mistaken.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:05 am

Organized States wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ah yes, I remember now. Yeah, you aren't real at all :lol2: You don't just change positions like that. In other news, has the US launched anymore strikes beyond the few against the artillery and whatnot?

Yeah, destroyed 2 ISIS convoys, a few AA positions in the way, and ammunition depots, I believe.


Very nice, I doubt anyone stateside is opposed to airstrikes so we should really step it up.
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