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The Klishi Islands
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Founded: Oct 30, 2013
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:25 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Do you have the authority to report him/his nation to authorities? Also, any moderator opinions on this?
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West Aurelia
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Postby West Aurelia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:32 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Is it illegal to have friends in terrorist groups? Or is it illegal to not report it?
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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:33 pm

The Klishi Islands wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:

You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Do you have the authority to report him/his nation to authorities? Also, any moderator opinions on this?

Technically speaking I don't think you have to be a federal employee in order to bring him to the attention of the authorities.

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The Klishi Islands
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Postby The Klishi Islands » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:38 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Klishi Islands wrote:
Do you have the authority to report him/his nation to authorities? Also, any moderator opinions on this?

Technically speaking I don't think you have to be a federal employee in order to bring him to the attention of the authorities.


Duh. My bad. Should someone, maybe a mod, report him?
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Page
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Postby Page » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:38 pm

Association itself is not an offense. If the people in question were asking "can we have some money/a ride/a place to stay while we do our thing?" then that would be different. But meeting some guy on the street whose like "Hi, I'm a terrorist" and instead of reporting him you're like "wanna go to Chilis and talk about Game of Thrones?" that's not illegal.
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AkAr Cydonia
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Founded: Apr 22, 2011
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Postby AkAr Cydonia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:39 pm

You can report terrorist activity to both the FBI and INTERPOL, you must be willing to go fully through with it though, this isn't a joke, if someone claims to have friends in known terrorist organizations they are by affiliation a sympathizer for knowing of the crime and sill befriending someone, both the FBI and INTERPOL will need information on yourself and the individual in question, this goes pass allegations because he willingly admitted it along with having terrorist propoganda, which is also illegal.


Just go to the FBI or INTERPOLs website to get the correct forms and report away.

Wish I was back in the sandbox to deal with these scum.
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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:53 pm

AkAr Cydonia wrote:You can report terrorist activity to both the FBI and INTERPOL, you must be willing to go fully through with it though, this isn't a joke, if someone claims to have friends in known terrorist organizations they are by affiliation a sympathizer for knowing of the crime and sill befriending someone, both the FBI and INTERPOL will need information on yourself and the individual in question, this goes pass allegations because he willingly admitted it along with having terrorist propoganda, which is also illegal.


Just go to the FBI or INTERPOLs website to get the correct forms and report away.

Wish I was back in the sandbox to deal with these scum.

Do I get to meet an FBI agent? :p

Also, Grand, what do you do?
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New Jordslag
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Postby New Jordslag » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:57 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
AkAr Cydonia wrote:You can report terrorist activity to both the FBI and INTERPOL, you must be willing to go fully through with it though, this isn't a joke, if someone claims to have friends in known terrorist organizations they are by affiliation a sympathizer for knowing of the crime and sill befriending someone, both the FBI and INTERPOL will need information on yourself and the individual in question, this goes pass allegations because he willingly admitted it along with having terrorist propoganda, which is also illegal.


Just go to the FBI or INTERPOLs website to get the correct forms and report away.

Wish I was back in the sandbox to deal with these scum.

Do I get to meet an FBI agent? :p

Also, Grand, what do you do?

He TGed me and told me it was some agency where they looked for Terrorist threats online.
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Benuty
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Benuty » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:12 pm

Does NSG even give a damn about the rules of the federal government?

I can understand the Anti-Marijuana Lobotomies the mods push down, but it isn't like they are admitting to being part of a terrorist group.
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Margno
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Founded: Sep 18, 2013
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Postby Margno » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:17 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

You also play a fascist on this site. Should I put in a call to the SPLC or the anti defamation league? What am I gonna give them? Your handle on an internet forum? Then I'm going to fucking jail for all the people I've harassed and said "I'll fucking kill you" to on Starcraft. I assume if a nineteen year old completely benign anarchist like myself knows to use tor, UIE does.
Don't make idle threats.
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Benuty
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
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Postby Benuty » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:18 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

Sure, and I am famous Psychosurgeon Walter Freeman.
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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:21 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:

You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

Sure, and I am famous Psychosurgeon Walter Freeman.

To be fair, it does say he's a Marine. Which does make him a federal employee.

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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:22 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Benuty wrote:Sure, and I am famous Psychosurgeon Walter Freeman.

To be fair, it does say he's a Marine. Which does make him a federal employee.

Eh you have a point.

Typically though the military just doesn't have the same ring as the civilian federal government".
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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:24 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:
-United Islamic Emirate- wrote:Yet again not every member is like this. I have 2 friends in the group and 3 in Al-Nusra. I have another friend who has 5 mates in the group. There normal people like you and me.But ISIS has its evils which the media finds and enhances to make them seem worse than who they are.



You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Oh. You are a mailman?
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Margno
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Postby Margno » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:24 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Benuty wrote:Sure, and I am famous Psychosurgeon Walter Freeman.

To be fair, it does say he's a Marine. Which does make him a federal employee.

Maybe I should start saying Hey Americans, overthrow your government! Break immoral laws! to every marine I meet on this site. I've said it a lot already, and no FBI agents at my door. I guess they're slacking.
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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:

You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Oh. You are a mailman?

United States Marine, it would seem.

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Benuty
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Benuty » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:

You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.


Oh. You are a mailman?

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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:25 pm

Benuty wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:To be fair, it does say he's a Marine. Which does make him a federal employee.

Eh you have a point.

Typically though the military just doesn't have the same ring as the civilian federal government".

Yeah, but it does make him correct technically.
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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:27 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Benuty wrote:Eh you have a point.

Typically though the military just doesn't have the same ring as the civilian federal government".

Yeah, but it does make him correct technically.

Still its rather an annoyance.

Its like being the guy shouting fire in a theater because the guy next to him in the hipster shirt was snoring.
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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:28 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh. You are a mailman?

United States Marine, it would seem.

Ask him for his DD-214
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:29 pm

Benuty wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Yeah, but it does make him correct technically.

Still its rather an annoyance.

Its like being the guy shouting fire in a theater because the guy next to him in the hipster shirt was snoring.

Tbf that's sympathetic. Being a hipster ought to be a crime.

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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:34 pm

Margno wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:

You just admitted that you regularly associate with members of officially recognized terrorist groups, both which have DoD agendas against them. You are a US citizen currently in the US.

That is a Federal offense and I am a Federal employee.

You also play a fascist on this site. Should I put in a call to the SPLC or the anti defamation league? What am I gonna give them? Your handle on an internet forum? Then I'm going to fucking jail for all the people I've harassed and said "I'll fucking kill you" to on Starcraft. I assume if a nineteen year old completely benign anarchist like myself knows to use tor, UIE does.
Don't make idle threats.

Huh?
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-United Islamic Emirate-
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:37 pm

Page wrote:Association itself is not an offense. If the people in question were asking "can we have some money/a ride/a place to stay while we do our thing?" then that would be different. But meeting some guy on the street whose like "Hi, I'm a terrorist" and instead of reporting him you're like "wanna go to Chilis and talk about Game of Thrones?" that's not illegal.

I never met these people in person they where all met through twitter. I talked to them via kik to ask questions about what it was like over there and to truly meet these people we see on tv being called terrorists. I did NOT know any of them in real life they where all online friends. That I briefly talked to for a few weeks over kik. I talked to 1 who is confermined dead,another who I am unsure about but hasn't spoken with since novemeber, another one just one day because my friend in bangladesh brought him into a group chat,than one other over twitter just said "Salaam Alaykum" to him and he reasoned with an equal response and he's also dead I think,and and last one wasnt my friend at all he was kind of a jerk in fact so never talked to him again. There is no law against having friends from other countries who are in other countries doing these things in that case having a friend or family member in a gang would be illegal and your not involved with them. I am NOT in Syria or Iraq I am not planning a single attack I am NOT a terrorist! I have not broken a law. In this country I am allowed to have an opinion weather be it fascism,racism,islamism,homophobia,liberalism,conservatism etc. So long as I do not act out of violence for my beliefs or join them.
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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AkAr Cydonia
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Founded: Apr 22, 2011
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Postby AkAr Cydonia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:38 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
AkAr Cydonia wrote:You can report terrorist activity to both the FBI and INTERPOL, you must be willing to go fully through with it though, this isn't a joke, if someone claims to have friends in known terrorist organizations they are by affiliation a sympathizer for knowing of the crime and sill befriending someone, both the FBI and INTERPOL will need information on yourself and the individual in question, this goes pass allegations because he willingly admitted it along with having terrorist propoganda, which is also illegal.


Just go to the FBI or INTERPOLs website to get the correct forms and report away.

Wish I was back in the sandbox to deal with these scum.

Do I get to meet an FBI agent? :p

Also, Grand, what do you do?


You might who knows, they would probably make a visit if this is/was real and make you show them the posts in question in person.

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-United Islamic Emirate-
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Postby -United Islamic Emirate- » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:41 pm

Benuty wrote:Does NSG even give a damn about the rules of the federal government?

I can understand the Anti-Marijuana Lobotomies the mods push down, but it isn't like they are admitting to being part of a terrorist group.

talking to a person over social networking like NS's tg's is not being part of a terrorist group.
نحن أبناء الإسلام التي أثارها الهدى والنور من الاسود مثل الشيخ أسامة ورفيقه أيمن مليئة شجاعة مثل أبو مصعب والأمير خطاب نموذجنا دور محمد الحبيب هو لدينا الضوء والمعلم ويترك كافة الأمر إلى الله
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