Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS)

[Timurid Empire]

I think the US and Iran should team up some special forces and attack the command structure of these terrorists, surely if coincided with an offensive by the Iraqi army it can do quite a bit of damage.

[Arkolon]

Does anyone know if the Maghrebian diaspora in France, or surrounding Western European countries, are up in arms after Obama's confirmed strikes?

I assume they are primarily Muslim areas? A lot of Muslims reject ISIS, including some well-known Islamic professors.

Maghreb, North Africa, yes. They have staged (violent, although for other reasons) anti-Zionist anti-Israel (and consequently anti-US, to a lesser extent) in Paris and other major cities, and some predicted that the US siding with the Shiites once again, the Maghrebians being primarily Sunni^{citation needed}, would arouse protest around the place. I'm glad to know that Islamic scholars reject ISIS, but nevertheless, they are a minority.

[Rio Cana]

The strange thing about this is that US weapons will be used to destroy US weapons in enemy hands. So the question is, how good are the US weapons against US weapons.

[The Pacific Ocean]

The strange thing about this is that US weapons will be used to destroy US weapons in enemy hands. So the question is, how good are the US weapons against US weapons.

Hmmm...that's a good question.

[United Marxist Nations]

The strange thing about this is that US weapons will be used to destroy US weapons in enemy hands. So the question is, how good are the US weapons against US weapons.

Most of them aren't US weapons, but weapons that the US gave Iraq after purchasing them from third parties, much the same strategy used for arming the Afghan Army.

[Upper America]

I assume they are primarily Muslim areas? A lot of Muslims reject ISIS, including some well-known Islamic professors.

Maghreb, North Africa, yes. They have staged (violent, although for other reasons) anti-Zionist anti-Israel (and consequently anti-US, to a lesser extent) in Paris and other major cities, and some predicted that the US siding with the Shiites once again, the Maghrebians being primarily Sunni^{citation needed}, would arouse protest around the place. I'm glad to know that Islamic scholars reject ISIS, but nevertheless, they are a minority.

I heard of the riots in Paris. Let's hope they don't happen again. I'm worried that if ISIS actually does try to enter Europe, fighting them back would anger the European Muslims who do support them. That might also cause more immigration problems.

[Hornesia]

I think the US and Iran should team up some special forces and attack the command structure of these terrorists, surely if coincided with an offensive by the Iraqi army it can do quite a bit of damage.

The problem is that the Iraqi military is generally incompetent and has a very poor command structure. The Kurds, on the other hand, have proven much more willing to fight.

[Upper America]

I think the US and Iran should team up some special forces and attack the command structure of these terrorists, surely if coincided with an offensive by the Iraqi army it can do quite a bit of damage.

The problem is that the Iraqi military is generally incompetent and has a very poor command structure. The Kurds, on the other hand, have proven much more willing to fight.

The US has already said that it will bomb ISIS forces that get near Kurdistan.

[Germanic Templars]

The problem is that the Iraqi military is generally incompetent and has a very poor command structure. The Kurds, on the other hand, have proven much more willing to fight.

The US has already said that it will bomb ISIS forces that get near Kurdistan.

And whatever is left of Iraqi air force said that they were giving air support for the Kurds as well.

[Upper America]

The US has already said that it will bomb ISIS forces that get near Kurdistan.

And whatever is left of Iraqi air force said that they were giving air support for the Kurds as well.

Whatever is left? What happened to it?

[Germanic Templars]

And whatever is left of Iraqi air force said that they were giving air support for the Kurds as well.

Whatever is left? What happened to it?

You know, ISIS seized anti air weapons from some bases from some Syrian bases and some Iraqi. And I say what is left because knows how much of an air force they have.

[Upper America]

Whatever is left? What happened to it?

You know, ISIS seized anti air weapons from some bases from some Syrian bases and some Iraqi. And I say what is left because knows how much of an air force they have.

Yikes, I thought they could only shoot down helicopters. They can't hit bombers, jets, and cargo planes, can they?

[Neoconstantius]

Maghreb, North Africa, yes. They have staged (violent, although for other reasons) anti-Zionist anti-Israel (and consequently anti-US, to a lesser extent) in Paris and other major cities, and some predicted that the US siding with the Shiites once again, the Maghrebians being primarily Sunni^{citation needed}, would arouse protest around the place. I'm glad to know that Islamic scholars reject ISIS, but nevertheless, they are a minority.

I heard of the riots in Paris. Let's hope they don't happen again. I'm worried that if ISIS actually does try to enter Europe, fighting them back would anger the European Muslims who do support them. That might also cause more immigration problems.

ISIS will never, ever, even get close to entering Europe.

[Respawn]

I'd love to capture these Neanderthals, amputate their limbs and feed them extensively (preferably pork) so they can live long lives. I'd set them up in San Francisco and force them to watch reruns of Honey Boo Boo and The Real Housewives. I'd have to remove their eyelids for that, too.

[Germanic Templars]

You know, ISIS seized anti air weapons from some bases from some Syrian bases and some Iraqi. And I say what is left because knows how much of an air force they have.

Yikes, I thought they could only shoot down helicopters. They can't hit bombers, jets, and cargo planes, can they?

Maliki has ordered his air force to help the Kurds in their fight against ISIS which seized an array of weapons including tanks and anti-aircraft guns from the Iraqi soldiers who fled in June.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ll-47.html

Granted, it depends on what AA weaponry they do have in their arsenal to see if they can hit down planes like that. Then again, that is going off the assumption that ISIS has AA equipment like what the Separatist in Ukraine has. Same type that brought down that Ukrainian cargo plan months ago.

[Upper America]

I'd love to capture these Neanderthals, amputate their limbs and feed them extensively (preferably pork) so they can live long lives. I'd set them up in San Francisco and force them to watch reruns of Honey Boo Boo and The Real Housewives. I'd have to remove their eyelids for that, too.

Why San Francisco, of all places?

Yikes, I thought they could only shoot down helicopters. They can't hit bombers, jets, and cargo planes, can they?

Maliki has ordered his air force to help the Kurds in their fight against ISIS which seized an array of weapons including tanks and anti-aircraft guns from the Iraqi soldiers who fled in June.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ll-47.html

Granted, it depends on what AA weaponry they do have in their arsenal to see if they can hit down planes like that. Then again, that is going off the assumption that ISIS has AA equipment like what the Separatist in Ukraine has. Same type that brought down that Ukrainian cargo plan months ago.

I hope they don't have that weaponry. That would not be good for the US or Iraqi airstrikes.

I heard of the riots in Paris. Let's hope they don't happen again. I'm worried that if ISIS actually does try to enter Europe, fighting them back would anger the European Muslims who do support them. That might also cause more immigration problems.

ISIS will never, ever, even get close to entering Europe.

Of course not. The US and EU would beat them back to the very room the idea of ISIS came from. And then destroy that room. Besides, they want land from Spain, China, India, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Russia. There's no way any of those countries will surrender. Not to mention all the other countries, if unable to beat them, will still fight back and whittle down their numbers.

[Respawn]

I'd love to capture these Neanderthals, amputate their limbs and feed them extensively (preferably pork) so they can live long lives. I'd set them up in San Francisco and force them to watch reruns of Honey Boo Boo and The Real Housewives. I'd have to remove their eyelids for that, too.

Why San Francisco, of all places?

It's supposedly the gay/liberal/feminist/hippie capital of the US. I'm they would feel right at home.

[Organized States]

Another set of US Airstrikes just rolled in, the Navy and the Air Force certainly are keeping the pressure up along with the Iraqi Air Force against this IS guys.

This might be the beginning of the end for these Jihadis, IMO. I certainly hope more strikes are launched to keep these guys at bay and destroy them before this gets any worse than it is.

[Lyrova]

Another set of US Airstrikes just rolled in, the Navy and the Air Force certainly are keeping the pressure up along with the Iraqi Air Force against this IS guys.

This might be the beginning of the end for these Jihadis, IMO. I certainly hope more strikes are launched to keep these guys at bay and destroy them before this gets any worse than it is.

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

[Organized States]

Another set of US Airstrikes just rolled in, the Navy and the Air Force certainly are keeping the pressure up along with the Iraqi Air Force against this IS guys.

This might be the beginning of the end for these Jihadis, IMO. I certainly hope more strikes are launched to keep these guys at bay and destroy them before this gets any worse than it is.

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

The last thing the world needs is another theocracy, in my opinion. You're perfectly entitled to another, but mine is set.

[Connori Pilgrims]

Another set of US Airstrikes just rolled in, the Navy and the Air Force certainly are keeping the pressure up along with the Iraqi Air Force against this IS guys.

This might be the beginning of the end for these Jihadis, IMO. I certainly hope more strikes are launched to keep these guys at bay and destroy them before this gets any worse than it is.

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The very concept of theocracy has no place in the Twenty-First Century. Hell it had no place in the Seventeenth (and I'm sure others would argue it has no place period). The sooner you and your so-called ISIS understands this, the better off the world will be.

[Lyrova]

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

The last thing the world needs is another theocracy, in my opinion. You're perfectly entitled to another, but mine is set.

As if the U.S. isn't a de facto theocracy. Any country that claims freedom of religion but makes decisions on school curriculum on a religious basis, where politicians have to say "God bless America" at the end of their speeches to gain any sort of popular support, where the same document that proclaims "freedom of religion" is the document that points to a single "Creator" for its legitimacy, is a country that is, if anything, a crypto-theocracy and has no right to conduct military conflicts on the grounds of countering theocracy.

Additionally, the U.S. being more involved against us will only fuel our ultimate resolve of uniting the entire Muslim world against them. So go ahead, bomb us, you're only giving us the legitimacy and popular support we need.

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The very concept of theocracy has no place in the Twenty-First Century. Hell it had no place in the Seventeenth (and I'm sure others would argue it has no place period). The sooner you and your so-called ISIS understands this, the better off the world will be.

Read above. You're also ignoring the general widespread propagation of religiously charged governments in the 17th century—even the only government of the 18th century to openly declare opposition to the combination of religion and state, for all intents and purposes, is and was a highly conservative Christian country. You're further ignoring the fact that national churches are still a thing in western countries (particularly the one that defined the western world, the UK), so your singular condemnation of it means, well, nothing.

Also, I fail to see how a crypto-theocracy dropping bombs on ISIS will be productive in telling ISIS fighters that "the concept of theocracy has no place in the Twenty-First Century". Just saying.

[Redemption-America]

Another set of US Airstrikes just rolled in, the Navy and the Air Force certainly are keeping the pressure up along with the Iraqi Air Force against this IS guys.

This might be the beginning of the end for these Jihadis, IMO. I certainly hope more strikes are launched to keep these guys at bay and destroy them before this gets any worse than it is.

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

Wat. "Our."

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1. No.
2. lol.
3. No.

[Lyrova]

Why in the world are you supporting the eradication of ISIS? The hate on this thread is perfectly representative of the interests against which ISIS is fighting. Stay out of our war.

Wat. "Our."

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1. No.
2. lol.
3. No.

How about actually addressing my post in a reasonable and dignified manner as opposed to making unnecessary spam posts that amount to no constructive contribution to the discussion at hand?

[Organized States]

The last thing the world needs is another theocracy, in my opinion. You're perfectly entitled to another, but mine is set.

As if the U.S. isn't a de facto theocracy. Any country that claims freedom of religion but makes decisions on school curriculum on a religious basis, where politicians have to say "God bless America" at the end of their speeches to gain any sort of popular support, where the same document that proclaims "freedom of religion" is the document that points to a single "Creator" for its legitimacy, is a country that is, if anything, a crypto-theocracy and has no right to conduct military conflicts on the grounds of countering theocracy.

Calls US a theocracy < Forgets the fact that most US Schools teach evolution and creationism, forgets the fact that the word God, can mean any deity a person believes in.