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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:57 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
British Accia wrote:Remove the bias?

Not only is it unbiased, it's straight from the mouth of God.


grade a Bullshit.

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Postby British Accia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:58 pm

I think this guy is confusing NATO with the EU.
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:59 pm

Incredibly Biased Op is Incredibly Biased.
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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:59 pm

Tinfect wrote:Incredibly Biased Op is Incredibly Biased.

In what way

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Postby Alyakia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:00 pm

what the fuck does NATO have to do with austerity and currency

just because they're all roughly the same group of countries does not mean you can mix and max at you leisure

argh! NATO is raising sales tax! damn you EU fighters in canada!
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:00 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Tinfect wrote:Incredibly Biased Op is Incredibly Biased.

In what way



But I think that they have said this on behalf of their western masters, to legitimize EU/NATO, a regime that is bad for everyone because it's ridiculous austerity policies and failed currency. They could also just be boasting and trying to sound macho. I would also point out that everyone has wanted to fill the streets of Paris with dead bodies at one time or another, and that the French educations support of only math means that the Parisians are already pretty dead and would probably like it if ISIS stirred things up a bit. I hope that you will not take this as an excuse to support EU/NATO or it's military action. Together, others can stop ISIS without U.S.-NATO imperialism.



All of that.
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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:01 pm

Alyakia wrote:just because they're all roughly the same group of countries does not mean you can mix and max at you leisure

why not

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:01 pm

OK, now the OP just looks like it was written by someone with their head wrapped in tinfoil to keep out the government mind control rays.
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Postby British Accia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:02 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Alyakia wrote:just because they're all roughly the same group of countries does not mean you can mix and max at you leisure

why not

Because they have incredibly different aims.
EU - Promoting trade
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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:OK, now the OP just looks like it was written by someone with their head wrapped in tinfoil to keep out the government mind control rays.

It's been demonstrated that tin foil increase radiation because it bounces around in it.

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Alyakia
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:03 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Alyakia wrote:just because they're all roughly the same group of countries does not mean you can mix and max at you leisure

why not


because they are literally different organizations that do different things
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:03 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
British Accia wrote:Remove the bias?

Not only is it unbiased, it's straight from the mouth of God.


And hereeeeee we gooooooo...
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Postby Arlenton » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:03 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:OK, now the OP just looks like it was written by someone with their head wrapped in tinfoil to keep out the government mind control rays.

It's been demonstrated that tin foil increase radiation because it bounces around in it.

That explains a lot, actually.

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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:05 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:And hereeeeee we gooooooo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLyOtB_0aCQ
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:06 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Dawangdido15 wrote:Not only is it unbiased, it's straight from the mouth of God.


And hereeeeee we gooooooo...

Yep.

*and thus, another crusade war*
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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:07 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
British Accia wrote:Remove the bias?

Not only is it unbiased, it's straight from the mouth of God.

No your showing a clear bias against NATO and the EU (which aren't the same). You should have one paragraph explaining what happened unbiased and an opinion paragraph not a mix.
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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:09 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:No your showing a clear bias against NATO and the EU (which aren't the same). You should have one paragraph explaining what happened unbiased and an opinion paragraph not a mix.

NATO interventions demonstrably create ISIS.

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Postby Seno Zhou Varada » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:19 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:No your showing a clear bias against NATO and the EU (which aren't the same). You should have one paragraph explaining what happened unbiased and an opinion paragraph not a mix.

NATO interventions demonstrably create ISIS.

No actually answer my suggestion and if you wanna help your OP listen to what I said.

Also your gonna need a source for that claim otherwise it's bullsh*t.
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Postby Dawangdido15 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:27 pm

Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Also your gonna need a source for that claim otherwise it's bullsh*t.

Iraq - Saddam = ISIS

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:21 pm

Dawangdido15 wrote:
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Also your gonna need a source for that claim otherwise it's bullsh*t.

Iraq - Saddam = ISIS


So without a brutal dictator clamping down on them the entire Iraqi populace will spontaneously go jihadist and murder people?
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